Yeah even I get tired of the constant negative feedback, (no pun intended) so I thought we could have one thread without any form of QQ, though be it ever so legit....

I'll start:

I have yet to play another game where the (Locus/flux) nade mechanics are this good. I can make my nades hit exactly where and when I want them to as long as I'm focused and playing well.

I bounce them on the floor and they'll roll foreward predictably almost every time, I can bounce them off walls and I can make them explode over people's heads when they're behind cover as long as my timeing is up to par.

I very rarely die from other nades since they're normally "spottable" and its mostly the very skilled or the total random throw like in all shooters that gets me the very few times they kill me.

KZ 2 also had great nade mechanics, but I like Dust's better.


In this ara at least - Great job CCP!

I have never had a KDR over 20+ on any other shooter

Sorry,but I find the grenade mechanics to be not very good in this game,and this is coming from a former MAG player that had about 10k frag grenade kills.

Reaction time is too slow when throwing.The physics are better than before,but still need work.The character's all have wuss arms.

Sorry,but there's no way I can agree with this post.

As for what this game does better than any other shooter,I struggle to come up with anything.I'm not hating,it's just that right now it's a subpar shooter.

Sorry,but I find the grenade mechanics to be not very good in this game,and this is coming from a former MAG player that had about 10k frag grenade kills.

Reaction time is too slow when throwing.The physics are better than before,but still need work.The character's all have wuss arms.

Sorry,but there's no way I can agree with this post.

As for what this game does better than any other shooter,I struggle to come up with anything.I'm not hating,it's just that right now it's a subpar shooter.

When it used to work and was properly balanced, the Mass Driver was the best and most realistic incarnations of a grenade launcher I've ever seen in any game.

LOL - you couldn't even cook the nades in MAG, even the most elite of players used to toss them in the enemies general direction, I've seen enough MAG vids to claim this. There might be people out there but I haven't seen a single MAG vid with skilled nade gameplay. Lots and lots of players swapped the nades out for an Acoustic locator or whatnot.

They had a very long range, a quality I don't miss in Dust, it feels about right.

I think the reaction time should be what it is. Its moronic that someone can go from wielding a gun to toss a nade in the blink of an eye, this is even more so with insta nades. When the nades are cooked the release time is instant, as it should be.

And for the record, it would surprice me if I had less than 10K nade kills so far in Dust....

Da faq Babar? Nades? Sadly to say that COD has the best grenade mechanics. All of them go to the position you point at. Fused locus grenades lmfao

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Punishing death just makes it more rewarding and challenging

Yeah even I get tired of the constant negative feedback, (no pun intended) so I thought we could have one thread without any form of QQ, though be it ever so legit....

I'll start:

I have yet to play another game where the (Locus/flux) nade mechanics are this good. I can make my nades hit exactly where and when I want them to as long as I'm focused and playing well.

I bounce them on the floor and they'll roll foreward predictably almost every time, I can bounce them off walls and I can make them explode over people's heads when they're behind cover as long as my timeing is up to par.

I very rarely die from other nades since they're normally "spottable" and its mostly the very skilled or the total random throw like in all shooters that gets me the very few times they kill me.

KZ 2 also had great nade mechanics, but I like Dust's better.


In this ara at least - Great job CCP!

The depth and ease of social integration is something I would star.

Having a substantial death penalty (actually lossing your stuff) is pretty darn cool.

The fact that Dust is F2P and nothing is velvet roped. You can participating in every level of the game whether you put a dime in or not. It's up to whether or not you want to commit the time to the game.

Orbital Strikes from Eve are both a technical achievement and downright awesome. I'm happy to say I even shot my own character from space in a PC match and that what just awesome (totally worth it to blast Sgt Bigz).

Dust is kind of like plain toast, kind of bland and not very filling and a ton of stuff does what it does better

Fair enough. I'm just optimistic enough to wait around until it's Texas Toast.

Texas Toast is delicious. Texas Toast is buttery and garlicky and flavorful. Texas Toast makes great croutons.

When will DUST be Texas Toast, CCP?


(Hint: Complete racial suits and weapons = butter.

Meaningful PVE = garlic.

Balance = proprietary blend of spices.)

For me, it has to be that it's set in New Eden, and that the only law is the law of wolves. That when DUST has been fully integrated into that universe mercs will eventually be revealed as what they truly are: saints, princes, knaves, jackals, and a myriad more archetypes. Knowing that New Eden will remember their deeds, brilliant or foolish, noble or craven.

The fact that we can own and lose property, that an entire alliance backed by shadowy money can be thrown against one corp in hundreds of battles. That the collective efforts of hundreds of mercs representing tens of thousands of hours can be reduced to ashes by a single act of betrayal.

That the stars we see above us are the real stars of the cluster, that we can look up and see gods in orbit above us, wagering fortunes on our victories and failures on the battlefield.

That we stand of fall on our own merits, that if we refuse to back down everything we have can be taken from us, and that we have nothing to protect us but our brothers in arms.

LOL - you couldn't even cook the nades in MAG, even the most elite of players used to toss them in the enemies general direction, I've seen enough MAG vids to claim this. There might be people out there but I haven't seen a single MAG vid with skilled nade gameplay. Lots and lots of players swapped the nades out for an Acoustic locator or whatnot.

They had a very long range, a quality I don't miss in Dust, it feels about right.

I think the reaction time should be what it is. Its moronic that someone can go from wielding a gun to toss a nade in the blink of an eye, this is even more so with insta nades. When the nades are cooked the release time is instant, as it should be.

And for the record, it would surprice me if I had less than 10K nade kills so far in Dust....

That .. was... BEAUTIFUL!!!!

The depth and ease of social integration is something I would star.

Having a substantial death penalty (actually lossing your stuff) is pretty darn cool.

The fact that Dust is F2P and nothing is velvet roped. You can participating in every level of the game whether you put a dime in or not. It's up to whether or not you want to commit the time to the game.

Orbital Strikes from Eve are both a technical achievement and downright awesome. I'm happy to say I even shot my own character from space in a PC match and that what just awesome (totally worth it to blast Sgt Bigz).

Sorry,but I find the grenade mechanics to be not very good in this game,and this is coming from a former MAG player that had about 10k frag grenade kills.

Reaction time is too slow when throwing.The physics are better than before,but still need work.The character's all have wuss arms.

Sorry,but there's no way I can agree with this post.

As for what this game does better than any other shooter,I struggle to come up with anything.I'm not hating,it's just that right now it's a subpar shooter.

Having played a lot of Planetside I will say Dust's tanks are MUCH MUCH better. One of the problems in a lot of combined arms shooters is they let turrets spin as fast as infantry dodge so once a tanker sees you, that's it, dead. Its no harder to hit infantry than with a rifle.

Dust has hit that sweet spot where tank weapons are still dangerous but if you are a fast infantryman who uses cover well you can survive. The turrets turn at the right speed the weapons are just lethal enough without being nukes.

Also I know Dust tankers think their tanks are tissue but not compared to other games. I find HAV toughness well balanced.

Overall, I find the Dust HAV much better balanced than most other tanks in other games. (LAVS are a different story).

nice vertical structures,

The following areas that could be improved:

- Still feels like your fighting on the same planet. Everyone seems to leave disgarded cargo containers and industrial vehicle in exactly the same places. Temprate planets have several climates. Yet we seem to perminately fighting in the steppes of Russia or Colorado.

- Community/Developer communication is pretty bad at the moment and has been for months.

- The game modes are vinilla and unexciting, this may have something to do with the map issue.

- Poor location awareness. Labels for places are a step in the right direction you never feel like your fighting on different worlds, even getting to those worlds is poorly managed and very beta. Loading screen > your there.

- The core gameplay is almost done, and yet CCP seem to be obessessing over it.

- Lack of PvE and diverse gametypes fails to draw other players who are attracted to these types of game modes.

- Admission of the exculsion of industry, effectively drops the crafting aspect of the MMO portion. Huge mistake. And thats another huge slice of potential players who won't play.