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Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:58:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:When it comes to global announcements, man and let me tell you the thing about global announcement. See there's no such thing as global announcement, because at the end of the day, man, there's a specific audience for every message no matter if it's public. See where I'm going with this? Bottom line, the guys who you are primarily addressing should be addressed the way they deserve to be addressed. Sure, I guess you could interpret "global" literally meaning everyone in the world, but why would you when there are alternative definitions that work better? Well if you define global as something that can be targeted for cunty people who tried to take advantage of a mistake done by CCP, then that's fine too. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
117
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:01:00 -
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Mith - why do you even bother? Half these replies don't even touch your topic. Flag them for trolling - the post will get deleted and they'll get a warning. After 3 they get a ban.
And CCP's business practice is similar to how a player interaction would work - we're just another online guy to them. If that bothers enough people they'll cut the cash flow and CCP will do something. If not then CCP can continue to **** up and make us pay for it. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:01:00 -
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Chinduko wrote:CCP made the mistake and want to punish the player base over it? I received about 200 million ISK due to their blunder. I would have given it to my corp as well but didn't have the time. If CCP had put gave me negative 200million for their idiotic incompetence I would have probably quit since I couldn't have purchased any weapons, dropsuits, or anything for who knows how long. That's ridiculous to blame the player base for their moronic foolishness.
But they did, and CPM Nova Knife thinks that is how they SHOULD act. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
220
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:02:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Mith - why do you even bother? Half these replies don't even touch your topic. Flag them for trolling - the post will get deleted and they'll get a warning. After 3 they get a ban.
And CCP's business practice is similar to how a player interaction would work - we're just another online guy to them. If that bothers enough people they'll cut the cash flow and CCP will do something. If not then CCP can continue to **** up and make us pay for it. Well you know a thing or two about getting banned, don't you? |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1824
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:04:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Half these replies don't even touch your topic. Flag them for trolling Yeah, done.
Also, nice troll response, Ric. Will make a note to self to address you as a cunty person in future.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
264
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:05:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:hooc order wrote:I go to the bank. [some other stuff]
You're still missing the point.
I just noticed this, and I have to say something.
I think the way that you edited the post you quoted is quite possibly one of the most ignorant things you can do on a forum.
They took the time to make the entire post and then you downplay the rest of their post by summarizing it as "some other stuff"
You're not the only one I've noticed do this and I find it no less ignorant from them either.
I know, I know, I'm just being "too sensitive" over something simple (no doubt you or someone else here will think this or possibly post it).
DILLIGAF?
I could say the same about many of the posters in this very thread.
Also, no matter what I think of your posts, I will not be downplaying them through editing, I will either amend your post and make my post "FYP" or I will "snip" the unimportant portions of your post for my response. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
220
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:05:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Half these replies don't even touch your topic. Flag them for trolling Yeah, done. Also, nice troll response, Ric. Will make a note to self to address you as a cunty person in future. I take it that I'm not getting another response, right? The bottom line: As a non cunty man, I don't feel like CCP targeted me with any improper messages. At the same time though, I know a lot of cunty men feel like CCP targeted them with some improper messages. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
117
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:07:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:When it comes to global announcements, man and let me tell you the thing about global announcement. See there's no such thing as global announcement, because at the end of the day, man, there's a specific audience for every message no matter if it's public. See where I'm going with this? Bottom line, the guys who you are primarily addressing should be addressed the way they deserve to be addressed. Sure, I guess you could interpret "global" literally meaning everyone in the world, but why would you when there are alternative definitions that work better? Well if you define global as something that can be targeted for cunty people who tried to take advantage of a mistake done by CCP, then that's fine too. Ric - people have been given cash by CCP before the last respec - and we just had another. A lot of people would of assumed it was just another repeat of that. If they woke up early enough and played around with the cash they thought they had they would of never known CCP plans to **** them.
I really thought you were more of a considerate guy when it comes to peoples problems. Seems you just like to talk and act tough. Guess all that non-sense you spouted about AFK farming hurting players experience was just a convenient excuse for you to complain about others.
Guess that explains why you're corp hopping. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
418
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:10:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Posts about the ISK reversal are off topic and are being reported as such. This thread is for feedback about CCP's business->player communications.
Really, trolling your own thread?
You don't get to "own" your own threads y'know... and I'm sure you do know. You have no control over the crap people want to talk about -- nor are you very likely to respect other peoples threads.
It's a game. Its a forum.
Anyhow, you may want to consider that CCP is run by derpy nerds just like the folks that get all upset when they play the game and ragepost all the time.
I don't think whining and bitching at them all the time really creates a constructive tone either. Should the company consider acting more adult? Sure. Could they have worded their statement better? Sure. Do I care? No.
Don't listen to all the whiny losers CCP -- they are perfectly happy to suck all the life out this place as long as it gives them a chance to complain and think they are right. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
117
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:12:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Posts about the ISK reversal are off topic and are being reported as such. This thread is for feedback about CCP's business->player communications. Really, trolling your own thread? You don't get to "own" your own threads y'know... and I'm sure you do know. Are you an idiot? The thread has a topic - stick to it. He does get to control it since he set the topic. Derailing the thread counts as trolling and can get you suspended.
I would know as ric said. Lol |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
418
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:13:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote: I really thought you were more of a considerate guy when it comes to peoples problems. Seems you just like to talk and act tough. Guess all that non-sense you spouted about AFK farming hurting players experience was just a convenient excuse for you to complain about others.
Guess that explains why you're corp hopping.
Submit a claim junior... they'll fix your wittle negative iskies problem. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
220
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:13:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:When it comes to global announcements, man and let me tell you the thing about global announcement. See there's no such thing as global announcement, because at the end of the day, man, there's a specific audience for every message no matter if it's public. See where I'm going with this? Bottom line, the guys who you are primarily addressing should be addressed the way they deserve to be addressed. Sure, I guess you could interpret "global" literally meaning everyone in the world, but why would you when there are alternative definitions that work better? Well if you define global as something that can be targeted for cunty people who tried to take advantage of a mistake done by CCP, then that's fine too. Ric - people have been given cash by CCP before the last respec - and we just had another. A lot of people would of assumed it was just another repeat of that. If they woke up early enough and played around with the cash they thought they had they would of never known CCP plans to **** them. I really thought you were more of a considerate guy when it comes to peoples problems. Seems you just like to talk and act tough. Guess all that non-sense you spouted about AFK farming hurting players experience was just a convenient excuse for you to complain about others. Guess that explains why you're corp hopping. Well here's the thing, dude, and I don't know what anyone else was thinking when they saw their money DOUBLE, but I sure as hell knew I didn't spend 450mil on skill books. I sure as hell know exactly how to check how much the skill books cost and I'm sure as hell able to check that out too.
Now if somebody got a few mil, and thought okay these were the skillbook costs, he would have spend about that amount when speccing again, so there's no way of going negative 100 million without screwing up yourself. And yeah, I'm not saying CCP didn't screw up! They absolutely screwed up. I'm also not saying that they couldn't improving their messaging. What I am saying though tis hat if their messaging sucks, then the messaging of the community is absolutely disgustingly abysmal! |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
609
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:18:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I had CPM tell me explicitly that CCP HAD to PUNISH the players for EXPLOITING. CCP made all the mistakes here, but even our "appointed representation" believes the players should burden the consequences or leave. And I was also told it doesn't matter if they leave... great long term thinking there.
CCP did not make "all the mistakes" Going on a spending spree with Isk they didn't earn was a mistake made by the players.
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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
117
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:18:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:When it comes to global announcements, man and let me tell you the thing about global announcement. See there's no such thing as global announcement, because at the end of the day, man, there's a specific audience for every message no matter if it's public. See where I'm going with this? Bottom line, the guys who you are primarily addressing should be addressed the way they deserve to be addressed. Sure, I guess you could interpret "global" literally meaning everyone in the world, but why would you when there are alternative definitions that work better? Well if you define global as something that can be targeted for cunty people who tried to take advantage of a mistake done by CCP, then that's fine too. Ric - people have been given cash by CCP before the last respec - and we just had another. A lot of people would of assumed it was just another repeat of that. If they woke up early enough and played around with the cash they thought they had they would of never known CCP plans to **** them. I really thought you were more of a considerate guy when it comes to peoples problems. Seems you just like to talk and act tough. Guess all that non-sense you spouted about AFK farming hurting players experience was just a convenient excuse for you to complain about others. Guess that explains why you're corp hopping. Well here's the thing, dude, and I don't know what anyone else was thinking when they saw their money DOUBLE, but I sure as hell knew I didn't spend 450mil on skill books. I sure as hell know exactly how to check how much the skill books cost and I'm sure as hell able to check that out too. Now if somebody got a few mil, and thought okay these were the skillbook costs, he would have spend about that amount when speccing again, so there's no way of going negative 100 million without screwing up yourself. And yeah, I'm not saying CCP didn't screw up! They absolutely screwed up. I'm also not saying that they couldn't improving their messaging. What I am saying though is that if their messaging sucks, then the messaging of the community is absolutely disgustingly abysmal! I think people should of checked to see if they still had there gear. If they did then the ISK was indeed a noticeable mistake - but I don't expect people to be smart and nor do I want people to find this game anymore upsetting because CCP ****** up and then ****** them over.
Is that really such a bad way to view this? Mith isn't saying much more then that himself other then CCP method of handling it is crude and unappreciated. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
466
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:19:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Welcome to the future, CCP, where none of the businesses that matter have to use tools like the corporate tone to remind their customers that they're big important businesspeople, and rather give the impression that customers are valued as people and friends. I suggest giving it a shot. "the businesses that matter"
Care to elaborate on what businesses those are? |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
117
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:20:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote: I really thought you were more of a considerate guy when it comes to peoples problems. Seems you just like to talk and act tough. Guess all that non-sense you spouted about AFK farming hurting players experience was just a convenient excuse for you to complain about others.
Guess that explains why you're corp hopping.
Submit a claim junior... they'll fix your wittle negative iskies problem. Only one making claims here is you. I'm not in the negative, sunny boy.
Can you please stop throwing your stupid around like it's a badge of honor?
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:23:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:I had CPM tell me explicitly that CCP HAD to PUNISH the players for EXPLOITING. CCP made all the mistakes here, but even our "appointed representation" believes the players should burden the consequences or leave. And I was also told it doesn't matter if they leave... great long term thinking there. CCP did not make "all the mistakes" Going on a spending spree with Isk they didn't earn was a mistake made by the players.
This is why the language was dangerous. A large number of players have lost money DESPITE not spending the "mistake ISK". Some so much they literally cannot play the game anymore unless they are a masochist or their corp bails them out. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
220
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:27:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote: Well here's the thing, dude, and I don't know what anyone else was thinking when they saw their money DOUBLE, but I sure as hell knew I didn't spend 450mil on skill books. I sure as hell know exactly how to check how much the skill books cost and I'm sure as hell able to check that out too.
Now if somebody got a few mil, and thought okay these were the skillbook costs, he would have spend about that amount when speccing again, so there's no way of going negative 100 million without screwing up yourself. And yeah, I'm not saying CCP didn't screw up! They absolutely screwed up. I'm also not saying that they couldn't improving their messaging. What I am saying though is that if their messaging sucks, then the messaging of the community is absolutely disgustingly abysmal!
I think people should of checked to see if they still had there gear. If they did then the ISK was indeed a noticeable mistake - but I don't expect people to be smart and nor do I want people to find this game anymore upsetting because CCP ****** up and then ****** them over.
Is that really such a bad way to view this? Mith isn't saying much more then that himself other then CCP method of handling it is crude and unappreciated. [/quote] Well to me it seems like they're taking a hard line against people who tried to abuse this thing knowingly, man. Personally I'd be pissed myself if, as a responsible guy I would have still had the same amount of ISK, while some A-hole would have doubled his money by acting irresponsibly, essentially abusing the whole incident, dude.
I've got nothing against harsh words, I don't think you do either, but for some reason we think just because we pay them for something they should lick our asses. No! I'd rather much see everyone act like human beings and that includes getting pissed off among other things.
Now yeah, I am aware that the whole thing was a CCP screw up, but these things happen. We just have to accept that. If someone did indeed legitimately go -100 million without abusing the incident here, I don't know how that's possible, then I absolutely think something should be done about the thing.
BTW. before accusing someone of corp hopping, I'd first check my facts. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
118
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:29:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote: BTW. before accusing someone of corp hopping, I'd first check my facts.
Oh my bad - they sold you to SA didn't they? I know I've heard from a few you've got potential - you just weren't in the right team.
Wish ya luck. :3
And I mostly agree with your above post. |
Setaceous Prime
Nexus Prima
48
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:30:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Posts about the ISK reversal are off topic and are being reported as such. This thread is for feedback about CCP's business->player communications. Really, trolling your own thread? You don't get to "own" your own threads y'know... and I'm sure you do know. Are you an idiot? The thread has a topic - stick to it. He does get to control it since he set the topic. Derailing the thread counts as trolling and can get you suspended. I would know as ric said. Lol As soon as you post something in GD it becomes the property of GD and off topic abounds. Given your post history, you know this.
But hey, on-topic; our good friend Mithridates VI seems to be projecting his own opinions and desires on others. A simple case of "I feel this way, surely everyone else does as well". Personally I prefer CCPs way of doing business, though I'll admit they do need to make the communication they have more accessible. Though, by the same token, people really need to stop expecting everything to be handed to them on a platter. You learn nothing if everything is easy (the primary problem with parents attempting to be "friends" with their kids). |
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Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:31:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Vin Vicious wrote:You guys are morons end of story, you KNEW 100% this was gunna happen hence why you spent it, thinking surer maybe if I spend it they can't take it away. You're an idiot end of story and you should leave this game Yeah, and 90+% of the players didn't. I speak out for them, and you don't care about this game if you just want them to leave. CCP isn't making money back off their investment so far. You think milking 10k players is going to work out for them for the 20 years to max the current skill queue, let alone pay to provide new content?
Notice how I said 100%, lets look at this from a real world point of view, let's say you want to make a deposit, you make a deposit of 100, the bank teller accidentally adds a zero and now it's 1000, you notice this and spend 600bucks the next day on what weird **** you weirdos spend money on knowing full well this isnt your money, What do you thinks gunna happen when the bank finds this error.
If you think you deserve this isk than it seems the "new Eden community" isn't as smart as they claim they are.
Next thing this max current skill crap, the point of this game isnt to max out your skills, the point is to focus on one thing and master that, or become a jack of all trades. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:32:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Ric Barlom wrote: BTW. before accusing someone of corp hopping, I'd first check my facts.
Oh my bad - they sold you to SA didn't they? I know I've heard from a few you've got potential - you just weren't in the right team. Wish ya luck. :3 And I mostly agree with your above post. Well if you really wanna know, man, our leadership didn't have enough time for all that crap, and I personally don't like to spend my time in a game to organise stuff so most of moved into SA, and as you know we weren't that many to begin with. |
Goat of Dover
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
190
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:32:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Goat of Dover wrote:This is ridiculous. This company simply has stated I'm a firm manner that if you have done wrong then you will be punished.. The thread is about a long-standing situation, rather than about this particular event. I guess it was expecting too much for forum derps to think beyond the drama of the day.
You will have to forgive me my past experience with CCP's history is not to large in actuality. My statement was towards their actions that I have been apart of. Their past I have very little knowledge over. But I do have daily work related.activities with the ownership of a multimillion dollar company and their reactions with their customers and believe me its not much different than how you explain CCP. the difference in these two companies is mine has been around for ten times longer than CCP.
Forgive me if I am not completely aware of all the transgressions that have been presented but I still stand by their passion being what is tampered with and you will **** people off that way. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
118
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:34:00 -
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Setaceous Prime wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Posts about the ISK reversal are off topic and are being reported as such. This thread is for feedback about CCP's business->player communications. Really, trolling your own thread? You don't get to "own" your own threads y'know... and I'm sure you do know. Are you an idiot? The thread has a topic - stick to it. He does get to control it since he set the topic. Derailing the thread counts as trolling and can get you suspended. I would know as ric said. Lol As soon as you post something in GD it becomes the property of GD and off topic abounds. Given your post history, you know this. 26. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
*Ahem*
I know GD is used to there freedom but if an OP wants to enforce that his topic should be the main concern he has all the right. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1824
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:37:00 -
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Why would anyone even engage with Crash Monster? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
418
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:38:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Are you an idiot? The thread has a topic - stick to it. He does get to control it since he set the topic. Derailing the thread counts as trolling and can get you suspended. I would know as ric said. Lol
People are responding to what they see as the topic at hand. Get a grip! |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
418
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:40:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Why would anyone even engage with Crash Monster?
Reported, off topic.
Edit: I smell fear. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:41:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Are you an idiot? The thread has a topic - stick to it. He does get to control it since he set the topic. Derailing the thread counts as trolling and can get you suspended. I would know as ric said. Lol People are responding to what they see as the topic at hand or to particular points. Get a grip! So - because your blind it's okay to be off topic? Lol. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
418
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:42:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:So - because your blind it's okay to be off topic? Lol.
You still don't get to own your own thread and enforce exactly what people wish to discuss. That's childish at best. By the way, you are off topic too.
EDIT: You might note my original post DID mention that CCP could have done better. I also discussed the tone of the forum and how that probably doesn't help. That would seem to be on topic. Maybe you missed that or is this entire thread just a sad tear collecting troll job? |
Setaceous Prime
Nexus Prima
48
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:43:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Setaceous Prime wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Posts about the ISK reversal are off topic and are being reported as such. This thread is for feedback about CCP's business->player communications. Really, trolling your own thread? You don't get to "own" your own threads y'know... and I'm sure you do know. Are you an idiot? The thread has a topic - stick to it. He does get to control it since he set the topic. Derailing the thread counts as trolling and can get you suspended. I would know as ric said. Lol As soon as you post something in GD it becomes the property of GD and off topic abounds. Given your post history, you know this. 26. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. *Ahem* I know GD is used to there freedom but if an OP wants to enforce that his topic should be the main concern he has all the right.
Well, if we're all going to be rule lawyers, then all the personal attacks will have to stop as well
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