Players should liaise with their corporations to ensure ISK donations are returned to the original character otherwise all characters and corporations involved in ISK laundering will be subject to further ISK reversal. Users found to have abused corp donations may be subject to punitive actions against their accounts however such cases will be addressed on their own merits and handled on a case by case basis.

This thread contains what I think is a fairly good representation of one of the issues I have with CCP.



Are you threatening us based on an issue that you created and then failed to adequately communicate about, deciding that a small portion of the playerbase being notified would do? I'm not engaging in the right and wrong of that entire debacle, but this not the right way to engage with a forum community about it.

Whoever you guys have writing the script you use to interact with players needs to go back to scamming cash out of people with fraudulent takedown notices. Any claims you make to be developing a community here go out the window when you address us in this corporate tone and highlight to everyone that you're viewing us as customers who need to be strictly managed. It doesn't convince the reader that you're professionals like you may think it does.

You could achieve the exact same thing while convincing these customers that you were engaging them as friends if you had any skill whatsoever in customer relations.

Welcome to the future, CCP, where none of the businesses that matter have to use tools like the corporate tone to remind their customers that they're big important businesspeople, and rather give the impression that customers are valued as people and friends. I suggest giving it a shot.

I had CPM tell me explicitly that CCP HAD to PUNISH the players for EXPLOITING. CCP made all the mistakes here, but even our "appointed representation" believes the players should burden the consequences or leave. And I was also told it doesn't matter if they leave... great long term thinking there.

The negative nancys shouldn't have been greedy fuckwits to begin with.

You drag CCP over the coals for their "greed is good" mentality though in reality the playerbase is just as greedy.

Quit crying, suck it up and get to grinding.

Either that or GTFO.

You drag CCP over the coals for their "greed is good" mentality though in reality the playerbase is just as greedy.

Isn't it literally a business's business how they choose to talk to their customers?

You sir, are a verified idiot. CCP took more money than they gave, and 90% of the playerbase doesn't have a clue why they were given or lost money. The issue is shoddy business practices. Not the monopoly money.

(For the record I am fine, but I have seen many players who did nothing wrong but now cannot play the game, and I feel for them).

You didn't read the post and instead responded as if I had made an argument that I did not make.

That's called a strawman argument and it's a logical fallacy. Kindly, if you wish to reply in future, respond to arguments that are actually being made.

Yes, and it's up to their customers to provide feedback to that business on whether that communication is working or just alienating them.

Oh, sorry, sorry

/sarcasm

I was responding with that portion of my post to the reference by VEXation Gunn about the internal email.

Well i don't want liars cheats and trolls like IMP to be getting free money. How should CCP talk when they are defending my interests as a customer of theirs?

Oh wait nevermind you already quoted that response.

Posts about the ISK reversal are off topic and are being reported as such. This thread is for feedback about CCP's business->player communications.

I would say that the thread is for feedback about "CCP's business->player communication over the ISK reversal", therefore, making both valid topics of conversation.

You sir, are a verified idiot. CCP took more money than they gave, and 90% of the playerbase doesn't have a clue why they were given or lost money. The issue is shoddy business practices. Not the monopoly money.

(For the record I am fine, but I have seen many players who did nothing wrong but now cannot play the game, and I feel for them).

You guys are morons end of story, you KNEW 100% this was gunna happen hence why you spent it, thinking surer maybe if I spend it they can't take it away. You're an idiot end of story and you should leave this game

Posts about the ISK reversal are off topic and are being reported as such. This thread is for feedback about CCP's business->player communications.

So they should put in petitions or forum posts in that stickied thread so CCP can go back over and fix their wallets.

If someone did nothing wrong, they have no reason to fear punitive action.

what business player communication

You guys are morons end of story, you KNEW 100% this was gunna happen hence why you spent it, thinking surer maybe if I spend it they can't take it away. You're an idiot end of story and you should leave this game

Yeah, and 90+% of the players didn't. I speak out for them, and you don't care about this game if you just want them to leave. CCP isn't making money back off their investment so far. You think milking 10k players is going to work out for them for the 20 years to max the current skill queue, let alone pay to provide new content?

Alright, guys, time for some real talk Ric Barlom style. Because, guys, I don't know about you but personally I'm kind of sick and tired of this BS entitled attitude that plagues the western world these days, man! I mean my God people expect to be treated like they are kings and queens by you just because they buy a product or service from you. At the same time, man, the very same people treat you like dirt just because they buy a product or service from you.

Now if everyone followed that behaviour pattern, and I know a lot of people do, then the only people who would be treated somewhat good, would be the people who provide no products or services, but instead consume stuff with welfare checks! All I can tell you about that, is that I think it's ****** up! Here's a radical idea for you guys: How about we just treat people like people. How about we treat nice people nicely and how about if we treat cunty people like, we all know how they should be treated!

Alright, guys, time for some real talk Ric Barlom style. Because, guys, I don't know about you but personally I'm kind of sick and tired of this BS entitled attitude that plagues the western world these days, man! I mean my God people expect to be treated like they are kings and queens by you just because they buy a product or service from you. At the same time, man, the very same people treat you like dirt just because they buy a product or service from you.

Now if everyone followed that behaviour pattern, and I know a lot of people do, then the only people who would be treated somewhat good, would be the people who provide no products or services, but instead consume stuff with welfare checks! All I can tell you about that, is that I think it's ****** up! Here's a radical idea for you guys: How about we just treat people like people. How about we treat nice people nicely and how about if we treat cunty people like, we all know how they should be treated!