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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:53:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:As much as I am involved into Dust, I have to say that the review was more accurate than anything else. The only thing that I disagreed about it was the whole "pay to win" issue. I don't understand what people want from games that has a free-to-play model. This isn't bejeweled or freecell...you don't have to spend a dime if you really don't want to. But if you want to advance faster, than you spend some money...simple. CCP has to earn money to keep giving us free updates.
But other than that.....I've been saying that the aiming controls and movement controls are too sluggish and not smooth. CCP is concentrating on the rpg side but neglecting (or so it seems) the actual game mechanics. We've been asking for skirmish 1.0 and we get a templar event.
I hope CCP pay attention to the review and make some necessary changes. As long as there are items being released that are AUR only and have no ISK counterpart, it's P2W, plain and simple. When this was a beta and the argument was still "Hey, they'll be introducing a player market so you can buy those items from other players" I was with you. Now that the game is a fully launched and commercially released product, with no player market to be found, the game is undoubtedly and clearly pay-to-win. When it was beta and CCP were saying "point out the P2W items and we will fix them," I was still on your side. Yet, they still keep putting out new P2W items. It's not difficult to compare the ISK versions to the AUR versions. A new player doing a review can see the P2W items for themselves. If a new player doing a review can see it, you're not going to convince me that the guys developing the game simply "missed" it, or that it "slipped by" them. The only items that I see that are AUR only are the Fused Locus Grenades. Although they are nasty grenades, they hardly determine the outcome of a game. Now, if a weapon like the balac's or any of those officer items were only on sale for aur, then I can understand. But it's a little stretch to label the game as P2W by just one grenade. I believe that the reviewer was talking about skilling up faster....so he must have been referring to boosters. Some people refer boosters as P2W and I'm thinking, "Damn, is there anything that CCP can sell from this game?"
I agree Dubbs there is nothing in dust that's pay to win lol, pay to skill up faster yes, pay to get standard gear, yes pay to use an advanced item without skill yes, but that's it. It's a free game would you rather pay a sub fee or $60 plus DLC, or season pass??? |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:54:00 -
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i defend pay to win because it helps me win against anyone face to face , if they remove AURUM i will SUCK **** |
Al Lopestes
PlayStation Home Comminity Group
17
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Posted - 2013.06.03 17:21:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:im just sitting here smiling at all the people that are commenting saying
ccp you need to do a MASSIVE over haul and fix ALL THE PROBLEMS
if they where going to do that it should have been last patch
the simple truth is they CAN'T do that so they are going to take the safe approach slow and steady get everything done right no drastic changes just subtle ones here and there that don't take from the game just change it for the better
at the moment i think ccp with focus on cleaning up for a while then they will focus on new content
i really don't know why people are so impatient just leave for a year come back and it will all be over (and ill be about 10-15mill sp ahead of you)
I mostly agree with you. with the word fixing all of those problems we have will still create new bugs after a simple patch |
Al Lopestes
PlayStation Home Comminity Group
17
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Posted - 2013.06.03 17:39:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Void Echo wrote:perhaps ccp shouldn't have released dust 514 on the 14th, like everyone was trying to warn them from yes but they never listen.
It's hard to take feedback and make it happens. it would take a while |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:13:00 -
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Hell yea it is. Took EVE almost 10 years to figure that out. Since they learned from their mistakes in the past, it'll only take 5+ for Dust. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:16:00 -
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CCP Remnant wrote: as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - point blank Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - point blank to about as far as you can throw a paper ball Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - paper ball throwing range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - about as far as you can throw a rock
[FIXED]
all of this sucks lol |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1540
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:16:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:As much as I am involved into Dust, I have to say that the review was more accurate than anything else. The only thing that I disagreed about it was the whole "pay to win" issue. I don't understand what people want from games that has a free-to-play model. This isn't bejeweled or freecell...you don't have to spend a dime if you really don't want to. But if you want to advance faster, than you spend some money...simple. CCP has to earn money to keep giving us free updates.
But other than that.....I've been saying that the aiming controls and movement controls are too sluggish and not smooth. CCP is concentrating on the rpg side but neglecting (or so it seems) the actual game mechanics. We've been asking for skirmish 1.0 and we get a templar event.
I hope CCP pay attention to the review and make some necessary changes. As long as there are items being released that are AUR only and have no ISK counterpart, it's P2W, plain and simple. When this was a beta and the argument was still "Hey, they'll be introducing a player market so you can buy those items from other players" I was with you. Now that the game is a fully launched and commercially released product, with no player market to be found, the game is undoubtedly and clearly pay-to-win. When it was beta and CCP were saying "point out the P2W items and we will fix them," I was still on your side. Yet, they still keep putting out new P2W items. It's not difficult to compare the ISK versions to the AUR versions. A new player doing a review can see the P2W items for themselves. If a new player doing a review can see it, you're not going to convince me that the guys developing the game simply "missed" it, or that it "slipped by" them. The only items that I see that are AUR only are the Fused Locus Grenades. Although they are nasty grenades, they hardly determine the outcome of a game. Now, if a weapon like the balac's or any of those officer items were only on sale for aur, then I can understand. But it's a little stretch to label the game as P2W by just one grenade. I believe that the reviewer was talking about skilling up faster....so he must have been referring to boosters. Some people refer boosters as P2W and I'm thinking, "Damn, is there anything that CCP can sell from this game?" I agree Dubbs there is nothing in dust that's pay to win lol, pay to skill up faster yes, pay to get standard gear, yes pay to use an advanced item without skill yes, but that's it. It's a free game would you rather pay a sub fee or $60 plus DLC, or season pass???
Sure, as long as you ignore the P2W items and only acknowledge the "pay to skill faster" items, it's not P2W. |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
53
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Posted - 2013.06.04 07:22:00 -
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Yet there are items on the market which can only be bought with AUR and got no ISK counterpart. Of course they said they'll fix this. Thing is: it takes them several weeks, if not months while they're trying to push people into buying AUR items. It was a honest 'mistake' afterall, right.
It's a god damn joke, just like their head of marketing guy. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1331
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:15:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:Yet there are items on the market which can only be bought with AUR and got no ISK counterpart. Of course they said they'll fix this. Thing is: it takes them several weeks, if not months while they're trying to push people into buying AUR items. It was a honest 'mistake' afterall, right.
It's a god damn joke, just like their head of marketing guy.
Which ones are they? I know ISK weapons that dont have aur counterpart but am only knowledgable of the fused grenades as aur only |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1331
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:17:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:i defend pay to win because it helps me win against anyone face to face , if they remove AURUM i will SUCK ****
If you suck, you will lose no matter what you use. There is nothing that you can get with aur that will give you an advantage over players. |
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PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
39
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:22:00 -
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Threadnaught status achieved
*stealth bump* |
543edsaa
Ringer For Hire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:43:00 -
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Bumpilstiltskins |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
57
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:06:00 -
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I guess now we know why Dust will be PS3 only for a while longer. Planetside 2 was announced for PS4, yesterday. Dust will need a couple more years to take this on. |
AmarrTemplar 196
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:45:00 -
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Correct sir PS2 will devour dust.
Only the evetards will remail, and to that I like.
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Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
107
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:59:00 -
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more reviews are flowing in with average score around a 60% mark |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1231
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:00:00 -
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Has anyone else noticed several posts being deleted from this thread? |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:02:00 -
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Still no reaction by CCP to the obviously broken game they have released that I want to play so bad it hurts : ( |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
59
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:40:00 -
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Why would they react? ~6k playing out of 2 million created accounts is plenty to go on. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:52:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Has anyone else noticed several posts being deleted from this thread? Hmmmm
During the great HMG nerf a certain funny satirical post disappeared pretty fast. |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
59
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Posted - 2013.06.12 06:54:00 -
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Not a single update since a week, nothing at E3. You guys really know how to roll.
HTFU and get going. Stop the slack. |
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:44:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:Not a single update since a week, nothing at E3. You guys really know how to roll.
HTFU and get going. Stop the slack.
Frankly, CCP would have looked pretty silly trying to hype Dust 514 at E3. It wouldn't have done anything but lowered the public interest in the game even further IMO. It's not like they have some magical build they could show that would make the game seem less awful. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:59:00 -
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Oh no, graphics! Who gives a damn? Looks fine to me. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
0
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Posted - 2013.06.12 20:30:00 -
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lol IGN's reviews are company based; CoD BF3 have good reviews, companies that publish them EA and Activision. Only reson DUST didn't get a good review is because it's not a very popular game... currupt much? |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1579
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:05:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:lol IGN's reviews are company based; CoD BF3 have good reviews, companies that publish them EA and Activision. Only reson DUST didn't get a good review is because it's not a very popular game... currupt much?
The reason it didn't get a good review is the same reason it isn't very popular: it's not a good game |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
59
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Posted - 2013.06.13 06:34:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:lol IGN's reviews are company based; CoD BF3 have good reviews, companies that publish them EA and Activision. Only reson DUST didn't get a good review is because it's not a very popular game... currupt much? There are plenty of games that aren't popular and get a good review, don't be silly. Eventually even the die hard fans have to give in. Give it 10 years like EVE needed; hence no marketing on CCP side. |
xLT Green
Damage Core corp. The Superpowers
7
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:58:00 -
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Aaaa there just pissed off because there use to slapstick controls on a 360 controller while playing cod bo2 .game reviews are for people without soul's its eather you like the game for what it is like me or you hate it like ign.
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Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
59
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Posted - 2013.06.17 06:01:00 -
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Yea that must be it, everything else is stellar about this game right? They've clearly shown they don't know the basics of a FPS game, let alone make it into something 'more'. Then again, what possibly could you achieve on a PS3 (with all it's limitations) these days lol.
Like I said. No marketing campaign since they know it's wasted money at this time. |
PlanetSideTooPS4
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:14:00 -
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New review posted today |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
529
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:15:00 -
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I swear, competitor gaming companies pay people to get on these forums and do this sh*t. It's a link to a planetside youtube. |
Draco Dustflier
DUST University Ivy League
70
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:03:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:I swear, competitor gaming companies pay people to get on these forums and do this sh*t. It's a link to a planetside youtube. hou realise planetside 2 is made by Sony, right? if they wanted dust to fail, they could just shut the game down and reimburse those who bought aurum with station cash. The fact that this game is even on ps3 is a sign Sony wants it to succeed. Also, PlayStation Universe gave the game the best review i've ever seen for it. Accept it, Planetside 2 is lightyears ahead of dust. |
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