That's what you get for proclaiming it fully released when it wasn't fully developed. I would have stayed in it as beta for a long time for sure.


But the review is spot on. It's just a ho hum frustration grind punctuated by flashes of brilliance. Those flashes of brilliance are pretty fun though. I think CCPs commitment to making this awesome over the coming years is another reason I am in.

CCP should really take heed. This project has all the classic signs of being mismanaged, and someone who knows what they are doing should step in before there's a lot more damage done. At this rate it will be an underdog story comeback kid game. I hope so at least.

im just sitting here smiling at all the people that are commenting saying

ccp you need to do a MASSIVE over haul and fix ALL THE PROBLEMS

if they where going to do that it should have been last patch

the simple truth is they CAN'T do that so they are going to take the safe approach
slow and steady get everything done right
no drastic changes just subtle ones here and there that don't take from the game just change it for the better

at the moment i think ccp with focus on cleaning up for a while
then they will focus on new content

i really don't know why people are so impatient just leave for a year come back and it will all be over
(and ill be about 10-15mill sp ahead of you)

I think you have been playing EVE too long because some of that is just downright paranoid thinking
As for Dust I doubt anyone here wants to see it fail but the reasonable people arent letting that blind them to the problems the game does have and I think mentioning the bad reviews is just vindication for all the hard core fan boys insisting they were wrong and dont know their assholes from their elbows

And if you dont like people disagreeing with you then you can either leave or HTFU

Dude, you don't understand the meaning of the word paranoid. This is distrust of IGN based on my experience with IGN. It has nothing to do with EVE. I don't care if people disagree with my observations or experience, but the problem is people are missing my point, so they are disagreeing with something I'm not even saying. It's only their own failure to grasp that I have not said once that DUST is without fault and is a perfect game. I've never said that. I have no delusion about its current poor state. I just said, IGN aren't worth the credit that people give them. So stop raging at me.

Additionally, nobody likes people disagreeing with them. Same applies to you, as well, but without disagreement there is no dialectic. There is no "if you don't like disagreement, leave or HTFU", and I don't have to "HTFU" to stupid people who miss the point completely and get all defensive about me calling out IGN as bad reviewers and calling me a CCP fanboy even though I never once claimed that DUST is perfect in any way.

Personally, those people who want to call me a CCP fanboy and missing my point are starting to sound like IGN fanboys.

Here's the thing, and someone else nailed it on the head earlier, but I'm going to give it some more clarity. Just about every game of late that has had GREAT reviews that I've been a part of over the last few years has had poor player reception because it's been rushed into release: to name a few, Mass Effect 3, Halo Reach and Halo 4. Halo 4 was missing features that it shouldn't have been missing, but Reach had a beta and they should have known better. Mass Effect... hell, don't get me started. IGN gave ME3 a 9.5, almost perfect score. Tell me, what were they thinking?

Anyway, they're not the point here. The point is, the same thing is happening with DUST. DUST was slated for release LAST YEAR, but they are taking their time refining the features. Calling DUST "released" right now is just to satiate Sony's demand for a title release. But you can consider it released in the same way that EVE is released, which is also technically still in beta, after a fashion - always in development, always open to review and expansion.

And if you don't like where DUST is going, then you can leave or HTFU

Problem is, there are PLENTY of F2P games that are better than Dust 514.

So the "oh no, its F2P " excuse is out the fudging window.

CCP knows what they have to fix, now its time to pour on the Polish (should have been there for full release) .

The games in an 6/10 state right now. It could easily be @ an 8 if they just add fun things to do!

The PVE and Gladiator arena is needed NOW.


My strong opinion:

CCP needs to cut the crap about "we dont want to add modes that dont make war sense" and add some damn modes in. I mean WHO CARES if "capture the Flag" is an INSTANT BATTLE MODE? I dont. Instant battle is just that an INSTANT BATTLE.

Add some damn modes for the people who play your game man.

II will continue to AFK untill it gets good again if ever.

You are paranoid, you believe there is a horrible ulterior motive behind a review that is fair and dead on with its complaints
Even with IGNs well known scandals they do get things right now and again
Your "arguments" so far are basically boiling down to "no u" and sticking your fingers in your ears

And I see it might be beyond your capacity to harden up if you get your knickers in a twist this badly, why dont you just log in to the EVE hug box and have some people pat you on the head and tell you everything is going to be ok, those mean people arent here to bother you anymore

And you are stupid, because even when I explained why distrust of someone based on your experience with them is not paranoia, you just go ahead and ignore it. I haven't had any "arguments" so far in the way you think they are. And the only person getting their "knickers in a twist" is the one who insists on arguing against a point I have not made, another indication of your stupidity. You seem to think I have some stake in what you think of me - I really don't. Go back to the COD forums if you want someone to give a ****. But I'm going to clarify this one more time for the sake of your tiny mind's ability to comprehend.

I never said DUST was perfect, but I wouldn't put too much stock in the IGN review. Unless you've already decided that anyone who says DUST is bad is cool and without fault themselves, and anyone who disagrees is a fanboy. This is called bias, the true mark of a fanboy. But I have no stake.

This review was written by Vince Ingenito, please explain your personal experiences with Vince that lead you to believe he has a deep seated vendetta against this game and would write a negative review

Only fanboys have a problem with this review....

I don't have a "deep seated vendetta". Try interpreting what I said wrong again, it makes you sound more intelligent.

In case you couldn't tell, that was sarcasm.

God I love the irony in your post, telling me to misinterpret what you wrote while at the same time you think I said you had a vendetta instead of what I actually said
Read it again, its barely two lines and then try to construct a response that doesnt make you seem like a rabid fanboy wearing blinders

Is this a joke? Have you never heard of MAG? 256 players in one battle,32 squad leaders calling in air strikes 8 platoon leaders calling in air strikes 2 oics altering every players abilities on the entire field and minimal lag (when the game had most players and the servers were being maintained). The aiming was WAY smoother and you didn't injure yourself every 5 secondsfalling up a hill.

The PS3 is fine

No, your exact words were "deep seated vendetta". If there was another meaning, then you should have written it as it meant, not used terms that didn't mean what you meant them to mean. If you have interpreted a deep seated vendetta from what I have written, then you have interpreted me incorrectly. Parroting the words "fanboy" as some form of prescriptive retaliation cuz you think it will hurt my feelings or make me mad or whatever is just a generic way out of any actual counter-point to the actual point I was making. You keep calling me a fanboy. Tell me, where did I come across as a fanboy? Was it the part where I didn't take the IGN review lying down, or the part where I said that DUST and CCP can do no wrong?

Oh, but wait, I didn't do the latter, so who am I a fanboy of? Do you understand the definition of the word fanboy? You call me a fanboy because you think I'm sticking up for DUST against this review. That's not what I'm doing. I'm shunning the review, but I'm not sticking up for DUST. This is the assumption of a false dichotomy that you are on, that because I am disagreeing with the review then I MUST be defending DUST. But that's not what I'm doing. I have explained this repeatedly now, and you still insist on ignoring that and calling me a fanboy.

As for being rabid, I've never experienced more frothing at the mouth than that coming from anyone that throws the word fanboy around like it matters. I only care about the merits of the position that you take. If you are going to call me a fanboy, you better have a reason, and I can't think of one, so the only thing I can put it down to is you and your ilk dragging your COD-kiddie mentality into a big-boy's game and thinking you can get away with it because everyone will be just as stupid as you.

My exact words were:

This review was written by Vince Ingenito, please explain your personal experiences with Vince that lead you to believe HE has a deep seated vendetta against this game and would write a negative review

Caps for emphasis and you can go back and check my previous posts as well as your quotes to see it was not edited
Sorry son but you get an F in reading comprehension

Also way to go making radical assumptions about me, that doesnt undermine your stance that you're not a fanboy wearing blinders at all

CCP: lets release a shooter on a console to tap the lucrative console market
Players: No shooters are better on PC
CCP: We cant ignore all that money we will get from making CoD in space, plus developing games for PC blows
Players: Ok what ever
CCP: *makes shooter on ps3 and alienates target audience, gets a sh1tty review
Players: we told you

CCP: lets release a shooter on a console to tap the lucrative console market
Players: No shooters are better on PC
CCP: We cant ignore all that money we will get from making CoD in space, plus developing games for PC blows
Players: Ok what ever
CCP: *makes shooter on ps3 and alienates target audience, gets a sh1tty review
Players: we told you

This. My only concern about DUST was the kind of audience it would attract from the beginning. My fears were confirmed almost instantaneously, and prevalent on these very forums.

Funny because that was my fear about the audience of Eve... confirmed, BTW.


The review is accurate.

If they would have just kept the balance, controls, and skirmish layout from replication this game would be 100% more playable.

Well, EVE's player base has been around a lot longer than DUST's, and is much more firmly planted as a community, as well as being more aware of what CCP is capable of both achieving and ******* up. Maybe that will change for DUST over time, as the game grows. The problem is, EVE players are generally more able to see the bigger picture than your standard console FPS player. True story. Especially those that have been there from the beginning, when EVE was in its first iterations. You should see the patch notes from those days. Way worse than what we're getting on DUST. CCP has a lot to learn, but you can either give them the opportunity to learn it and craft a finely tuned FPS, or you can spit in the face of a free game and run around screaming about how everything is just bad instead of moving on to another game.

Ive been playing eve for four years, and i dont spit in the face of a free game i spit the face of a pay to win game .

HAHA! You gave them your money? Dude, I've been winning without spending a cent. You're doing something wrong if you think it's pay to win, sorry.