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Baal Roo
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Posted - 2013.06.01 22:06:00 -
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Jaron Pollard wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:While DUST isn't as up to scratch as it could be, or has the potential to be, we have to remember that it's free to play, and unlike EA, CCP aren't paying IGN for good reviews. Which is why I don't go to IGN for reviews. You don't go to IGN because CCP aren't paying them for good reviews? No. You misunderstand. On the surface, DUST is a competitor for other shooters that you have to pay for. If people have a shooter that you don't have to pay for, discrediting it in its entirety is a handy tactic for getting people to go for games that you have to pay for instead, hence making more sales. I wouldn't trust that IGN don't write reviews that have been paid for by companies to promote a **** product by reviewing it as a good one. That is why I don't go to IGN.
Or, y'know, Dust 514 is a piece of crap, and pretty much every review that comes out on it says as much.
No, of course not, it's all a conspiracy, amirite? |
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:As much as I am involved into Dust, I have to say that the review was more accurate than anything else. The only thing that I disagreed about it was the whole "pay to win" issue. I don't understand what people want from games that has a free-to-play model. This isn't bejeweled or freecell...you don't have to spend a dime if you really don't want to. But if you want to advance faster, than you spend some money...simple. CCP has to earn money to keep giving us free updates.
But other than that.....I've been saying that the aiming controls and movement controls are too sluggish and not smooth. CCP is concentrating on the rpg side but neglecting (or so it seems) the actual game mechanics. We've been asking for skirmish 1.0 and we get a templar event.
I hope CCP pay attention to the review and make some necessary changes.
As long as there are items being released that are AUR only and have no ISK counterpart, it's P2W, plain and simple.
When this was a beta and the argument was still "Hey, they'll be introducing a player market so you can buy those items from other players" I was with you. Now that the game is a fully launched and commercially released product, with no player market to be found, the game is undoubtedly and clearly pay-to-win. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 00:33:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:As much as I am involved into Dust, I have to say that the review was more accurate than anything else. The only thing that I disagreed about it was the whole "pay to win" issue. I don't understand what people want from games that has a free-to-play model. This isn't bejeweled or freecell...you don't have to spend a dime if you really don't want to. But if you want to advance faster, than you spend some money...simple. CCP has to earn money to keep giving us free updates.
But other than that.....I've been saying that the aiming controls and movement controls are too sluggish and not smooth. CCP is concentrating on the rpg side but neglecting (or so it seems) the actual game mechanics. We've been asking for skirmish 1.0 and we get a templar event.
I hope CCP pay attention to the review and make some necessary changes. As long as there are items being released that are AUR only and have no ISK counterpart, it's P2W, plain and simple. When this was a beta and the argument was still "Hey, they'll be introducing a player market so you can buy those items from other players" I was with you. Now that the game is a fully launched and commercially released product, with no player market to be found, the game is undoubtedly and clearly pay-to-win. When it was beta and CCP were saying "point out the P2W items and we will fix them," I was still on your side. Yet, they still keep putting out new P2W items. It's not difficult to compare the ISK versions to the AUR versions. A new player doing a review can see the P2W items for themselves. If a new player doing a review can see it, you're not going to convince me that the guys developing the game simply "missed" it, or that it "slipped by" them. The only items that I see that are AUR only are the Fused Locus Grenades. Although they are nasty grenades, they hardly determine the outcome of a game. Now, if a weapon like the balac's or any of those officer items were only on sale for aur, then I can understand. But it's a little stretch to label the game as P2W by just one grenade. I believe that the reviewer was talking about skilling up faster....so he must have been referring to boosters. Some people refer boosters as P2W and I'm thinking, "Damn, is there anything that CCP can sell from this game?"
How about the Blood Raider Sage with it's 32 HP/s Shield recharge rate. That's DOUBLE the recharge rate of anything you can purchase with ISK. |
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:16:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:As much as I am involved into Dust, I have to say that the review was more accurate than anything else. The only thing that I disagreed about it was the whole "pay to win" issue. I don't understand what people want from games that has a free-to-play model. This isn't bejeweled or freecell...you don't have to spend a dime if you really don't want to. But if you want to advance faster, than you spend some money...simple. CCP has to earn money to keep giving us free updates.
But other than that.....I've been saying that the aiming controls and movement controls are too sluggish and not smooth. CCP is concentrating on the rpg side but neglecting (or so it seems) the actual game mechanics. We've been asking for skirmish 1.0 and we get a templar event.
I hope CCP pay attention to the review and make some necessary changes. As long as there are items being released that are AUR only and have no ISK counterpart, it's P2W, plain and simple. When this was a beta and the argument was still "Hey, they'll be introducing a player market so you can buy those items from other players" I was with you. Now that the game is a fully launched and commercially released product, with no player market to be found, the game is undoubtedly and clearly pay-to-win. When it was beta and CCP were saying "point out the P2W items and we will fix them," I was still on your side. Yet, they still keep putting out new P2W items. It's not difficult to compare the ISK versions to the AUR versions. A new player doing a review can see the P2W items for themselves. If a new player doing a review can see it, you're not going to convince me that the guys developing the game simply "missed" it, or that it "slipped by" them. The only items that I see that are AUR only are the Fused Locus Grenades. Although they are nasty grenades, they hardly determine the outcome of a game. Now, if a weapon like the balac's or any of those officer items were only on sale for aur, then I can understand. But it's a little stretch to label the game as P2W by just one grenade. I believe that the reviewer was talking about skilling up faster....so he must have been referring to boosters. Some people refer boosters as P2W and I'm thinking, "Damn, is there anything that CCP can sell from this game?" I agree Dubbs there is nothing in dust that's pay to win lol, pay to skill up faster yes, pay to get standard gear, yes pay to use an advanced item without skill yes, but that's it. It's a free game would you rather pay a sub fee or $60 plus DLC, or season pass???
Sure, as long as you ignore the P2W items and only acknowledge the "pay to skill faster" items, it's not P2W. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:44:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:Not a single update since a week, nothing at E3.
You guys really know how to roll.
HTFU and get going. Stop the slack.
Frankly, CCP would have looked pretty silly trying to hype Dust 514 at E3. It wouldn't have done anything but lowered the public interest in the game even further IMO. It's not like they have some magical build they could show that would make the game seem less awful. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:05:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:lol IGN's reviews are company based; CoD BF3 have good reviews, companies that publish them EA and Activision. Only reson DUST didn't get a good review is because it's not a very popular game... currupt much?
The reason it didn't get a good review is the same reason it isn't very popular: it's not a good game |
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