Ahh, so the buff scout threads begin.

I used to be a diehard scout fan, way back in chromosome, and I was very sad to see them go. *shakes his head* But I dropped that ***** like a bad habit for uprising, and I feel sorry for anyone not smart enough to have done the same.

scouts have no cpu/pg, they cant even hold protogear thats the problem

Heavies are being hit with a similar problem. Vehicles lost their grid buff skill. The dropsuit fitting buffs (and fitting discounts) in the skill tree have been made much tighter SP wise. My gut tells me it's about isk sinks increasing the time to higher end fits and thereby decreasing the number of people who can field "perfect" fits right now.

yea but the heavy has a health and weapon advantage, making them worth while to spec into

I think heavies need a slight damage nerf (5%?) and a slightly high hp buff (15%) to fit their role as the ultimate defender.

But Scouts too need something to fit their role on the battlefield. Stuff that works on the field, not just looks good on paper (you can't bring a knife to a gun fight in PC and be effective outside of luck, and lolz @ scan bonus)

CCP laid the groundwork for a lot of game mechanics in the near future. I know it sucks that we're stuck with half assed stuff because the rest of our package is still on the drawing boards, but be a patient. Scanning does need a buff on Gallente scouts though.

The health is a gimmie. Although the weapon is not, I've been killed by scouts with shotguns or people with sniper rifles many times. At least not enough feel like there's any advantage on my end.

Maybe cloaking will be worth the wait...

Don't underestimate the value of enemy detection.

Simple fix, give them back 2 equipment slots. The speed is useful for droplinks + lotsof gear. I miss my 2 equipment slot scouts. Plus cpu and pg to fix stuff...

They just need an extra slot. Also they have nerfed scout speed 4 times CAN YOU STOP?

I think heavies need a slight damage nerf (5%?) and a slightly high hp buff (15%) to fit their role as the ultimate defender.

But Scouts too need something to fit their role on the battlefield. Stuff that works on the field, not just looks good on paper (you can't bring a knife to a gun fight in PC and be effective outside of luck, and lolz @ scan bonus)

I agree. Get that minny weapon out of the hands of the Amarr, damn it! The amarr style is probably worst suited to using a minny weapon. I'd love to see what the other racial heavy weapons would be :)

But right now, in PC, heavies rely on dps to tank, not actual tank. They die so fast to concentrated fire, and because of their ability to lay down a firestorm of damage, they DO take concentrated fire.

No one has really hit on the core problem here, which is the scanning range. Everyone has a scanning range of 10 meters, it used to be quite larger in Chromosome. 10 meters is half of that smallest inner circle on your radar. It is completely useless.

The scouts biggest asset is supposed to be it's low profile signature and scan precision, but with only a 10 meter passive scanning radius even a heavy can sneak behind enemy lines undetected.

I'm guessing they introduced this insanity because of the active scanner. It's one of those hammers people accuse CCP of using from time to time.

Scouts biggest assets are strafe speed and small hitbox.

So it tends to do really well in public matches. I do worry how it would contend against a group of really solid players though.

But the scouts big strengths are the heavies biggest weakness and everyone agrees the heavy sucks. So I dont think its fair to jus tthrow those things away as meaningless. There are two things you can not improve via skills and modules, those are the things the scout is best at.

I say this as someone who almost exclusively went scout. In fact, Im an idiot and went gallante scout, so I have the ****** scout, and i still like it. Im respecing into mimitar.

Would that be with a proto suit maxed out with range enhancements in the low slots?

Could be useful as heck as a support role. But I play an agressive hit and run style, so I think the added speed and the slots for more shield provide me with a better build for my play style.

I also use an active scanner, which while not as good as 100M passive, helps accomplish a similar thing if I use it well. Would passive scanned enemies appear on team mates radar as well or just mine?