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Jin Robot Polar Gooks 469	Posted - 2013.05.17 19:50:00 - [1] - Quote People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap.
crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1185	Posted - 2013.05.17 19:57:00 - [2] - Quote People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 474	Posted - 2013.05.17 19:59:00 - [3] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus. Nope, because I am waiting for Minmatar heavy, I dont want respecs. [INVALID POINT] Next.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 45	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:01:00 - [4] - Quote What's the point of having such a diverse and complex game if you can't dive into the skill tree and go to town on it? Restricting gameplay is not what playing a game with options is about, they cancel each other out. I for one need a bit more SP then I'm gonna spec into Caldari Logi, get 600 shield, cardiac regulator and kinetic catalyser and go zoooooooooooooom. (if we get the optional respec option soon which as you can see I want).
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 253	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:02:00 - [5] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap. I've been saying this for a while. There's also boredom, though. Not everyone likes using the same gear and tactics every time they play. I'd like to see more flexibility with our fitting options, but with the militia gear being so limited to only select weapons, that kind of flexibility would likely require yet another skill tree revamp. I like the change, but I'd be nice to see similar weapons branching off of a generalized one or allow the light / heavy / side arm skills to unlock standard weapons in their respective categories to eliminate the need to potentially waste SP on a weapon you discovered you didn't like. I agree, though. Wanting a respec so you can instantly get prototype (blank) weapon when it hits the market is a bit much. Its just rather difficult to be able to distinguish the people who are just not enjoying the gear they skilled into from the people who want the next big thing due to the whole "human nature" thing.
Ric Barlom On The Brink CRONOS. 109	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:04:00 - [6] - Quote Jin I've gotta tell you something right now, bro, because I've been noticing a certain trend with your posts, man. That trend being that most of your posts make absolute sense, no question about it. Keep it up, dude! Now as far as respeccing skills go: Absolutely not! No way in hell! That's the worst idea ever and goes against everything that makes EVE and Dust 514 great.
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 74	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:08:00 - [7] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus. Nope, because I am waiting for Minmatar heavy, I dont want respecs. [INVALID POINT] Next. It's invalid because you personally disagree or hate the fact people are getting up to two repsecs sometime relatively soon? Nice
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 476	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:12:00 - [8] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Jin Robot wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus. Nope, because I am waiting for Minmatar heavy, I dont want respecs. [INVALID POINT] Next. It's invalid because you personally disagree or hate the fact people are getting up to two repsecs sometime relatively soon? Nice Its invalid because you say people like me (wanting to specialize in something not in game yet) are calling for it. I am opposed to it.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 476	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:14:00 - [9] - Quote Ric Barlom wrote: Jin I've gotta tell you something right now, bro, because I've been noticing a certain trend with your posts, man. That trend being that most of your posts make absolute sense, no question about it. Keep it up, dude! Now as far as respeccing skills go: Absolutely not! No way in hell! That's the worst idea ever and goes against everything that makes EVE and Dust 514 great. Haha, thanks man. when I first started reading your post I was expecting a criticism. I have been on dust forums so long I expect the worst.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:19:00 - [10] - Quote I can understand waiting for jets or other vehicles or such, even these specialized dropsuits. All main dropsuits should have been in from day one - period. You cant call yourself AAA and be so lacking; that isnt derogatory, just being blunt.

Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 762	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:22:00 - [11] - Quote Full or partial respecs due to mistakes on CCPs part are a whole different story. Regular respecs, even for real money, go completely against the spirit of New Eden.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 478	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:37:00 - [12] - Quote Agreed, this was more in response to the "respec system" people wanted. Not in response to error respecs.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 284	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:39:00 - [13] - Quote So if you want to be a Minmatar Heavy, Caldari Heavy, Gallente Heavy, Caldari Light, or Amarr Light you should just wait out what is likely the entire summer and give up being able to be competitive in FW and PC?
ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 162	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:41:00 - [14] - Quote Part of it is that they want you to use aurum weapons on those fits you can't get the SP for quite yet. Even though its free to play, they do still need to make an income. Getting lvl 3 in anything is easy, and then buying a couple meta 5 aurum weapons to screw around with isnt that bad actually. I've done it... had a whole night of codewishes and in the end I spent like... 30-40 cents for an evening of fun... cheaper than going out (anywhere) hell its cheaper than driving somewhere! tbh, I would happily play the same spec over and over and over... if i could do so... however, horrible framerate and hit detection issues, not to mention the still unfixed gun ranges, is causing the whole experience to be more frustrating than anything.
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 84	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:45:00 - [15] - Quote Many of us pilots want respecs so we can reallocate the SP spent on CCP's mistakes. Many prereqs and skill bonuses have been changed in fundamental ways, leaving us with hundreds of thousands of SP skilled into either entirely irrelevant or extremely low efficacy skills.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 721	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:48:00 - [16] - Quote Stop being bad. SP are not mana from the skies, you get it from the dregs of society.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3097	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:48:00 - [17] - Quote ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: Many of us pilots want respecs so we can reallocate the SP spent on CCP's mistakes. Many prereqs and skill bonuses have been changed in fundamental ways, leaving us with hundreds of thousands of SP skilled into either entirely irrelevant or extremely low efficacy skills. I know. Now I have to go "slayer" and prove that KDR is the easiest thing in this game to maintain >_<
First Prophet Jaguar Elite 98	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:50:00 - [18] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: So if you want to be a Minmatar Heavy, Caldari Heavy, Gallente Heavy, Caldari Light, or Amarr Light you should just wait out what is likely the entire summer and give up being able to be competitive in FW and PC? I'm holding on to a lot of my SP 'til we get Minmatar fighters in a year or so. Not having any issues being competitive in FW so far, PC is another story but I'm not involved in that.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 35	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:51:00 - [19] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: What's the point of having such a diverse and complex game if you can't dive into the skill tree and go to town on it? Restricting gameplay is not what playing a game with options is about, they cancel each other out. I for one need a bit more SP then I'm gonna spec into Caldari Logi, get 600 shield, cardiac regulator and kinetic catalyser and go zoooooooooooooom. (if we get the optional respec option soon which as you can see I want). OP's case in point. The Q is will you call for another respect when this fit is no longer overpowered?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2337	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:55:00 - [20] - Quote My god, the people who demand constant respecs have no vision and are just entitled.

CPL Bloodstone SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 77	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:56:00 - [21] - Quote If this is supposed to be "Eve" like and be a sandbox, let the floodgates open, let them respec with Aurum. CCP wins, customer wins. Eventually the customer will find what they truely love and stick to it. If its a sandbox let the damn thing be a sandbox.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 486	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:58:00 - [22] - Quote CPL Bloodstone wrote: If this is supposed to be "Eve" like and be a sandbox, let the floodgates open, let them respec with Aurum. CCP wins, customer wins. Eventually the customer will find what they truely love and stick to it. If its a sandbox let the damn thing be a sandbox. even a sandbox has boundaries
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 309	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:01:00 - [23] - Quote Ric Barlom wrote: Jin I've gotta tell you something right now, bro, because I've been noticing a certain trend with your posts, man. That trend being that most of your posts make absolute sense, no question about it. Keep it up, dude! Now as far as respeccing skills go: Absolutely not! No way in hell! That's the worst idea ever and goes against everything that makes EVE and Dust 514 great. It goes against everything that is Dust and Eve huh? There was a respec on the 6th.....
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2338	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:01:00 - [24] - Quote CPL Bloodstone wrote: If this is supposed to be "Eve" like and be a sandbox, let the floodgates open, let them respec with Aurum. CCP wins, customer wins. Eventually the customer will find what they truely love and stick to it. If its a sandbox let the damn thing be a sandbox. Eve Online has no respec system for skill points. Only basic attributes get annual respecs and those attributes only affect how fast you train a certain type of skill book.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 170	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:02:00 - [25] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap. I'm actually in a proto caldri logi with a proto tac douv, and I want a respec,now how does that justify your statement?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2338	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:03:00 - [26] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Ric Barlom wrote: Jin I've gotta tell you something right now, bro, because I've been noticing a certain trend with your posts, man. That trend being that most of your posts make absolute sense, no question about it. Keep it up, dude! Now as far as respeccing skills go: Absolutely not! No way in hell! That's the worst idea ever and goes against everything that makes EVE and Dust 514 great. It goes against everything that is Dust and Eve huh? There was a respec on the 6th..... That was because CCP was still fixing the skill system during... dare I say it? Beta.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 486	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:04:00 - [27] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap. I'm actually in a proto caldri logi with a proto tac douv, and I want a respec,now how does that justify your statement? you are a proven troll, nuff said
Deadeye Dic IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 53	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:08:00 - [28] - Quote For those that are arguing for regular respecs because of new gear, Eve players never got them, why should you? If dedicated Amarr pilot thought the latest and greatest Caldari ship was better than what they had, then they had to spec into it. CCP never said, oh BTW, since we added a new ship or changed the ships we are going to give you all your SP back so you can start over. In fact, in all the time that I have played EvE, I can only think of one respec that was given and it was because they removed essential skills from the game. For those that want to argue, "This isn't EvE!!!" This is the game you built, this isn't the game you invested millions of dollars into, this isn't the game that you thought of, and if respecs are a make or break deal for you, then this isn't the game for you.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 768	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:09:00 - [29] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap. I'm actually in a proto caldri logi with a proto tac douv, and I want a respec,now how does that justify your statement? Because you know there is an expiration date somewhere on that Flavor of the Month?
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 171	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:11:00 - [30] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap. I'm actually in a proto caldri logi with a proto tac douv, and I want a respec,now how does that justify your statement? Because you know there is an expiration date somewhere on that Flavor of the Month? superior skill is always the flavor of the month



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