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Jin Robot Polar Gooks 469	Posted - 2013.05.17 19:50:00 - [1] - Quote People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 474	Posted - 2013.05.17 19:59:00 - [2] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus. Nope, because I am waiting for Minmatar heavy, I dont want respecs. [INVALID POINT] Next.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 476	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:12:00 - [3] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Jin Robot wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus. Nope, because I am waiting for Minmatar heavy, I dont want respecs. [INVALID POINT] Next. It's invalid because you personally disagree or hate the fact people are getting up to two repsecs sometime relatively soon? Nice Its invalid because you say people like me (wanting to specialize in something not in game yet) are calling for it. I am opposed to it.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 476	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:14:00 - [4] - Quote Ric Barlom wrote: Jin I've gotta tell you something right now, bro, because I've been noticing a certain trend with your posts, man. That trend being that most of your posts make absolute sense, no question about it. Keep it up, dude! Now as far as respeccing skills go: Absolutely not! No way in hell! That's the worst idea ever and goes against everything that makes EVE and Dust 514 great. Haha, thanks man. when I first started reading your post I was expecting a criticism. I have been on dust forums so long I expect the worst.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 478	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:37:00 - [5] - Quote Agreed, this was more in response to the "respec system" people wanted. Not in response to error respecs.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 486	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:58:00 - [6] - Quote CPL Bloodstone wrote: If this is supposed to be "Eve" like and be a sandbox, let the floodgates open, let them respec with Aurum. CCP wins, customer wins. Eventually the customer will find what they truely love and stick to it. If its a sandbox let the damn thing be a sandbox. even a sandbox has boundaries
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 486	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:04:00 - [7] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap. I'm actually in a proto caldri logi with a proto tac douv, and I want a respec,now how does that justify your statement? you are a proven troll, nuff said
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 487	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:14:00 - [8] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Knarf Black wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: People want to leave the OP fits when they get fixed and move on to the next win button fit asap. I'm actually in a proto caldri logi with a proto tac douv, and I want a respec,now how does that justify your statement? Because you know there is an expiration date somewhere on that Flavor of the Month? superior skill is always the flavor of the month and we are supposed to take your words as an intelligent addition to the debate? With this being the way you conduct yourself, not likely
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 488	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:21:00 - [9] - Quote CPL Bloodstone wrote: True there must be boundries but this is a free to play game. This die hard stance on not allowing respecs will hurt this game not help it with new non fanboi customers. Your seeing it from a gamers perspective im looking at it from a customers perspective. Some customers haven't the opportunity to go thru multiple refunds/resets and try different things until they can find what brings them joy. Not to mention CCP has made quite a few mistakes with descriptions and such. how about a solution that does not compromise the integrity of the decisions matter aspect. If I plan and choose wisely and train for months for a great fit, than word gets out and people hit the respec button and all my planning was meaningless. how is that so hard to understand. 1. Militia variants of ALL weapons 2. Careful planning 3. Acceptance of choices made and the consequences of them. Edit: 4. Fun
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 488	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:22:00 - [10] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus. Nope, because I am waiting for Minmatar heavy, I dont want respecs. [INVALID POINT] Next. oh sry the game revolves around you huh? yes, didnt you see the CCP thread in Announcements?

Jin Robot Polar Gooks 491	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:34:00 - [11] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: So if you want to be a Minmatar Heavy, Caldari Heavy, Gallente Heavy, Caldari Light, or Amarr Light you should just wait out what is likely the entire summer and give up being able to be competitive in FW and PC? Yes. It's your fault that CCP chose a clever (not really) release date, instead of holding off release until they had what most would consider the bare minimum amount of content. It's your fault that CCP released an incomplete game. It's your fault, and you should be punished for it. We're missing: LAVs for 2 races, HAVs for 2 races, Drop ships for 2 races, and we're missing 5 dropsuits. All of which should have been in the game before CCP decided that this was ready for release. Not offering at least a partial respec would be a mistake on their part. Everyone would prefer to have complete racial symmetry on release but art pipepline and game design can only handle so many projects at a time. That is a sad reality and CCP has to deal with it just as we do. Also i already said this in another thread but the difference between lvl IV and V is the same as 0 and IV (damn you romans for not having zeroes!). That means you can put your current class to IV instead of V and use the saved to spec into the desired class as it's released without sacrifice in efficiency or delay. Entitlement versus Reality in here... we are outnumbered. I understand the scope of this game and am happy being patient. CCP does not owe us anything, and they are trying hard, its not like the suits were not ready because CCP decided to watch a marathon of Firefly, they are trying and we should not act like spoiled children.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 491	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:45:00 - [12] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Entitlement Someone too lazy to press the pause button on a video isn't allowed to talk about entitlement Jin Robot wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: whoever was flipping through the skills needs to stop drinking coffee, or just figure out how to do this kind of thing, info is good, execution is FAIL. You know, youtube has this thing called the "pause" button yeah, i do. I also know a standard three second pause would have improved things, is critic forbidden here? I was stating an opinion, not a personal attack. It could have been done better. go console him you are wasting time trying to internet me, i dont care. ^This BTW is from Laurent's fanfest video where he showed the stats for the new suits and weapons. You know what would have improved release? More content, is critic forbidden here? ohh how detectivy. I stand by my critic, but in retrospect I would have chosen a less witty (i thought) and less rude (the truth) way of expressing it.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 494	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:01:00 - [13] - Quote it is unfortunate that the racial variety is not complete. Maybe if once the other variants are put in CCP could put in the extra work to transfer all heavy dropsuit skills into your preferred races equivalent heavy dropsuit skills, and so on for the suits that are not in. I dont see that compromising the decisions matter aspect, idk
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 502	Posted - 2013.05.17 23:09:00 - [14] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Just to show you what kind of goals CCP at one point had for Dust https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nmgb8ERT__c#t=66s "We have 10 vehicles classes, 8 of them are planned for launch". It is now launch, we have 3. Now, that build got deleted and they started from scratch so it's understandable that their plans changed, but still, we went from 8 to 3. They might have lowered their goals just a little too much. Thats reality, sometimes being optimistic has its downside, I would rather them keep their goals high and I will just be patient with faith that CCP (makers of EVE) will pull off those goals. maybe you are just passionate, because you can't really prefer them to aim lower, right? So they are dreamers, thats a good thing.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 514	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:03:00 - [15] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Jin Robot wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: People want repsecs becuase dust is suppose to have 4 races of heavies not force you into ammar becuase the devs lost focus. Nope, because I am waiting for Minmatar heavy, I dont want respecs. [INVALID POINT] Next. So your just not playing the class you want to play and by all rights should be able to play And how does that fix it Oh wait it doesnt Its called accepting the reality of game development and choosing patience over game compromising non-solutions.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 514	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:16:00 - [16] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Its called accepting the reality of game development and choosing patience over game compromising non-solutions. Assault and logistics players didn't need to do any of that, just saying. Is it too much to ask for fairness? Whats this "fairness" you speak of? Do you mean entitlement?
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 514	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:33:00 - [17] - Quote They didnt get all suits out, lets move forward and not put into place systems that could be abused. I really want to be a min heavy AV, but am still having fun. Even though my second choice of fun boom weapons (MD) is also apparently not ready for.prime time. Thats where the patience helps me.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 514	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:35:00 - [18] - Quote Skihids wrote: You are all set if your fitting is high in gank. If you made the mistake of skilling into a role such as Scout, pilot, or support you found that your choice is sub-optimal because the answer to every problem in DUST is "more firepower". The only challenge CCP has provided for us in any game mode is "how to shoot the other guy in the face". The answer to that challenge is high DPS. Everyone who chose to skill into a non-assault role will want the opportunity to go Assault. It's really that simple. Then a round of balancing happens and choices of OP fits cost you, and should continue to cost you. Decisions, decisions.