If you read the description, the Scrambler Rifle and Pistol are actually a hybrid of a plasma and laser weapon.

Save your SP people, AR is still the best gun around.

Assault Rifles are the best weapon in Dust 514? Someone should notify the player-base immediately.

Getting back on topic maybe CCP should offer variants and see how the reaction is. The breach and assault variants for some weapons have drastically altered their use from the standard models.

They are already informed, everyone's using the TAR.

What the SCR lacks in dps it makes up for with high alpha damage. You can one-shot people with ease if you fit a SCR right.

just hard cap the ROF on the TacAR until we get a legit caldari battle rifle to replace it. The scrambler's fine.

I think they should swap the optimals of both weapons. Leading to this numbers:

GEK-38 Assault Rifle
Max Range: 68m
Optimal Range: 1 - 29m

CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle
Max Range: 73m
Optimal Range: 1 - 40m

As far as I know the Gallante Weapons should be more short ranged high ROF high DPS weapons therefore either lower the SR damage slightly or buff the AR damage slightly to seperate both weapons more in combination of the optimals range change (the same DPS with higher Range for any of the two weapons would result in another imbalance)

As I said before I believe the range was meant to be low, the gun doesn't have any reducing dispersion skill, nor recoil, etc. like the AR. If they increase range they'll have to reduce dispersion as well, no point in increasing range when the gun is not accurate.

I think they should swap the optimals of both weapons. Leading to this numbers:

GEK-38 Assault Rifle
Max Range: 68m
Optimal Range: 1 - 29m

CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle
Max Range: 73m
Optimal Range: 1 - 40m

As far as I know the Gallante Weapons should be more short ranged high ROF high DPS weapons therefore either lower the SR damage slightly or buff the AR damage slightly to seperate both weapons more in combination of the optimals range change (the same DPS with higher Range for any of the two weapons would result in another imbalance)

Since no one is using this weapon, and the small number of guys using it saying it's fine, the chances that CCP buffs the SR are quite low. Either way, I'm bumping this thread so it gets their attention, I really want to know the future of this weapon, because if it's still underpowered by respec, I might just join the large population of duvolle users.

Since you seem to not have read the above thread:

#1Posted: 2013.05.14 15:36 | Report | Edited by: RECON BY FIRE
Why is the range worse than an AR?

GEK-38 Assault Rifle
Max Range: 68m
Optimal Range: 1 - 40m

CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle
Max Range: 73m
Optimal Range: 1 - 29m


GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle
Max Range: 95m
Optimal Range: 1 - 62m

CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle
Max Range: 83m
Optimal Range: 1 - 45m


Save your SP people, AR is still the best gun around.


Edit:


Damage Comparison Between AR and SR


Overall DPS

Duvolle AR: 467.5
Carthum AS: 465.9

DPS vs Shields

Duvolle AR: 514.3
Carthum AS: 559.1

DPS vs Armor

Duvolle AR: 420.8
Carthum AS: 372.7


I say you save the SP, the Carthum ain't no monster dude. I use one. ;)

I'm going to bump this for good measure. This is an important topic that needs attention. SR are not viable.

Most guns are not viable with duvolles and TAC around in their current form.


Nerf hammer AR. That is all. ( By nerf I mean Balance )

Are not the Scrambler rifle and Lazer rifle the equivalent of pulse and beam weapons in eve, one meant for close to medium engagements the other for longer ranges,each with its own distinct strengths and weaknesses ?

"Pulse lasers have better range than blasters, hybrid weapon from the same class, but do considerably less damage. Anyway, pulse lasers are in favor among skilled pilots because they provide good damage/range ratio. By contrast with beam turrets, pulses fire rapidly several times in a cycle. "