I have 2342 armour, 700 shields. 2x 25% hardeners and was just 1 shoted by a forge in my drop ship. forge guns are so broken it is almost beyond belief that it got into release.

I do support dust. It's Devs but really AV is so obviously broken I do not understand how the Devs can justify it. So I ask you Devs. Tell me, straight up how can you say AV is balanced? 1.2 million ISk vs 72k and the cheap fG can 1 shot me, and not just that, but kill me without warning, from a tiny dot I can not see from a far part of the map. It's bad work Devs, bad work. Shame on you. For shame.

Yeah, I've done plenty of both, and the balance is non-existent.

Forge guns are powerful vs infantry (they OHK everyone AND have splash damage, it's easy to go at least 5:1 KDR with even a STD lvl forge gun) and they can OHK all but the most tanked out DSs. The one's that they CAN'T OHK, like mine, are 1 Mil+ ISK, and they TWO SHOT those. Also remember, the first shot is a freebie, and the second shot can be fired well before even the best DS pilot can generally do anything about the barage.

So, guys just carry their forge guns all the time. They tear through infantry with them and then when you try to fly even vaguely close to the battle: BOOM. There's no strategy to it, no counter measures, nothing. Forge Guns are by far the most powerful weapon in the game, and they make flying dropships basically suck. The only people who will argue this point are the ones who main forge guns, haven't used them, or are just terribad.

That's cute, I heard insulting people is the best way to sway them in favor of your side of the argument. /sarcasm

If the only argument (which seems credible) you have is that they OHK "even the most tanked out DSs" then buff the dropships.

I'm not going to pretend that i've flown dropships for anything other than the militia taxi service, or else i'd question your choice of dropship variant/fitting.

Also, I couldn't quite see where you were getting the whole "OHK vehicles" argument until I remembered that the Breach Forge gun does ridiculous amounts of damage. But what you seem to keep ignoring is the drawback (sticking with the Breach Forge here) of it.

The charge time on the round, plus the immobility factor make it difficult to use the breach without back up.

The charge time on the round, plus the immobility factor make it difficult to use the breach without back up.

*Anyone who has any idea what they're actually talking about.

As in people with experience both flying a lot and shooting DS with a FG?
I know there's got to be a few of you, I just want to know who...

Forge guns are not weak against armour, if I remember right there a hybrid weapon. And I wouldn't say it has a long charge up time, look at he assault variant.

DS are not made to take Railgun/Forgegun fire.

Forgeguns are HEAVY anti vehicle weapons, if a DS is hit its obvious you'll get destroyed by 1 or 2 hits.

Pilots need to learn how to fly DS and move faster...LOL

BALANCE? Forge guns are balanced for that they are , anti tank weapons. But if a pilot is moving slow enough to be shot by a FG , so be it...

Blackhawks get taken down by RPGs. Dropships get taken down by forge guns. Balanced achieved.

herp derp, checkmate pilots.

In reality, a single shot from any gun in the game would drop the guy getting shot. I guess every gun should be OHK.

Yes, they're totally balanced. If you're flying low enough and SLOW enough for a forge gunner to hit you with a charge shot, well too bad. You hover for a second or less, everyone bails and you burn it out of there and hug the terrain. Just because you want to fly in at 3000 feet, don't mean you should. ;)

They're not exactly easy weapons to line up on the dropship pilot who knows how to jink and weave. Especially the lower meta-level ones.

wow I weep for DS if every ones answer is not immediately no DSs need a buff.

Yes, they're totally balanced. If you're flying low enough and SLOW enough for a forge gunner to hit you with a charge shot, well too bad. You hover for a second or less, everyone bails and you burn it out of there and hug the terrain. Just because you want to fly in at 3000 feet, don't mean you should. ;)

They're not exactly easy weapons to line up on the dropship pilot who knows how to jink and weave. Especially the lower meta-level ones.

Okay.
You're displaying your ignorance here.

The Forge Gun round travels fast enough that you can nail a DS at full afterburner with less than an inch (screen-wise) of lead on your target, and a Breach Forge can do more than enough damage to take down even a well-fit one in one shot.

AV vs Dropships is the most imbalanced aspect of this game right now.

I believe that the forge gun is one of, if not the most balanced, weapon in the game. Low ammo, long charge time, only heavies can carry it, no ADS, the most powerful one has a root, good damage when you hit, and weak against armor. To be perfectly honest I find your crusade against the forge gun ridiculous considering not even all of the weapons and drop ships are in the game yet. Also considering that I have seen very few actual good forge gunners in matches that I have played and now that the Dire suit is gone and lots of people specced out of heavies I don't know why you are complaining so much about them.

Im guessing you mean 1 vs 1? There is no one vs one.... Where is your squad and the rest of the team? No one shoots at the slow moving forge gunner? All it takes is for him to see his shield drop and his armor start falling apart before he makes his way for cover only to die because his big slow behind couldn't get out of harm's way fast enough. In this game, there are scanners, a compass, teammates, damage reducing modules, etc... all of which can help you avoid being blown up....if there are lots of people who can keep their ships in the battle for loads of time, then you can too. Otherwise, maybe you arent as good a pilot as you think you are. That's real. I have one of the new Attack DS and cant kill sh**!!!! So it sits in the hangar only to come out for practice at certain times of certain matches .... (im retiring as a pilot lol can't wait to take my option to respec)