Thanks Cosgar, appreciate it. Too hard to navigate these forums on a 3G device.

Yet another issue to think about....at long range, when you have to shoo above them and train the leaf sight a full body's worth above your sight does not reveal their HP marker anymore. You now are unaware of the affect of your weapon.

But that's the problem. It wasn't broken to begin with. After the necessary buff it got in chrome, and if they gave it the sight it has in uprising, it would have been absolutely perfect. Not too many people used it, those who did understood that intricacy and finesse need to operate it. In fact it was balanced to the point that people would QQ for a nerf once in a blue moon, but would get eaten up by MD users and people who don't use it, but enjoyed what it brought to the field. All that was stripped away because someone in a cubicle got butthurt.

Why even have beta testers if this is what happens? Stuff like this makes me want to stop posting feedback because I begin to wonder how many times I've gone ignored or anyone who had ever articulated a valid well thought out point about a game mechanic because someone found nerf posts from a QQing CoD casual or a LAN party much more compelling than 2 ****ing years of beta testing? At this point, I don't even care anymore. They should just shut the ****ing servers down and make the goddamned game the way they want to and if we have an issue with a game mechanic that's not game breakingly broken they can say what they say to EVE players: HTFU

Yeah, I've been noticing that. Don't quote me on this but I think that could be attributed to the scanning and scanning precision nerf.
Also, has anyone noticed that your rounds will occasionally not deplete your clip? I was doing some target practice today and started to realize that every once in a while there will be a "phantom round" that doesn't get counted. It still travels and detonates, but it doesn't count towards my ammunition. Pay more attention to how many shots you fire so I know I'm not crazy.

Get over it, MDs were easy mode and everyone that used one enough to get used to how to shot it knows it. Splash damage was way too big. If you don't like the splash of the base variant use the assault. Otherwise, once again, get over it.

I love how every ****** who bitches about the MD calls it easy mode and yet they don't use it, and I simply don't die to MD. Why? because I actually played with them, I got really good with them too and you know what Ive met exactly one MD user who could kill me with out stealing some one else kill to get the one hit. oh and can you guess what weapon I use most?? the ******* AR because nothing else gives me that much power and that much flexibility, same with every other pro play on the field. The only people who use anything else consistently are the die hards who love those things or retards thinking they are op(that doesn't last long, yet they always seem to continue bitching about them anyways). I can only imagine how broke **** they are now. To OP good post and my condolences hope the bring it back to where it was.

I agree with all changes made to the mass driver this build.

And the mass driver was and still is my primary weapon.

1. The mass driver blast radius was far too large last build, I could drop 3+ dudes in 2-3 well placed Freedom rounds.

2. Damage, see above.

3. Nanohives shouldn't of been that good at a standard level. Get advanced, If you're a logibro then you should already have them. (The difference between adv nanos and standard was far too small last build, especially with the gauged variant)


The damage application of the mass driver round is something that does need looked at though. As the target can jump and avoid all damage, be on an incline and avoid all damage. Which is pretty ridiculous. At least they fixed for the most part the direct hits actually hitting.

It's a weapon that you can get massive kills when you're good with it, but when someone who thinks it's an "I win button" tries to get the same results, they can't because they need to train with it. This is a sign of a balanced weapon.

Yeah, I've been noticing that. Don't quote me on this but I think that could be attributed to the scanning and scanning precision nerf.
Also, has anyone noticed that your rounds will occasionally not deplete your clip? I was doing some target practice today and started to realize that every once in a while there will be a "phantom round" that doesn't get counted. It still travels and detonates, but it doesn't count towards my ammunition. Pay more attention to how many shots you fire so I know I'm not crazy.

I agree with all changes made to the mass driver this build.

And the mass driver was and still is my primary weapon.

1. The mass driver blast radius was far too large last build, I could drop 3+ dudes in 2-3 well placed Freedom rounds.

2. Damage, see above.

The damage application of the mass driver round is something that does need looked at though. As the target can jump and avoid all damage, be on an incline and avoid all damage. Which is pretty ridiculous. At least they fixed for the most part the direct hits actually hitting.

Also the Mass Driver was NEVER supposed to be a CQC weapon thats why its a support, for supporting team mates who are the damage dealers and if you're a logibro using it then switch to a repair tool as in PC friendly fire will be turned on, so more than likely a mass driver user needs to stop firing after the enemy gets so close which was the probable reasoning behind the blast radius. (old blast radius would of killed most of my team mates)

Truth of the matter is CCP will look into things when they feel things get hot. HMG thread of QQ got 30 pages long and lo and behold CCP is caving in with hot fixes. MD was not a 'win button weapon' so few ppl specialized in it, so now we dont have the numbers to be able to influence CCP. The way things are it's only OP weapons that will be looked into like tanks AR and HMG because they have a huge lobby that can influence CCP. This is ironic.

nor is the HMG a win button, the only time you could of made that argument was the pre E3 build and even then only if you weren't aware of your surroundings.

ttt for the MD

It used to be a great weapon. Now it's a joke.

I check here every day, If they comment I'll be cooled out, If not there is tomorrow. I wonder why we got embargoed?

This is why I quit being as vocal and helpful as I once was. CCP is giving off the impression they're more concerned with how a female scout's gams look under dynamic lighting than fixing core gameplay issues or would rather base a game mechanic's balance off an office LAN party over 8 months of beta testing and feedback. This is why I'm going to get a respec and spec back into the AR again. No use in bringing logic into an argument when the squeaky wheel always gets the grease.

Hi guys,

We have been looking in to the Mass Driver and we have identified two technical issues that are causing problems for it. Firstly we found that the way we check for splash damage is prone to GÇ£missingGÇ¥ partially occluded targets. We have now improved the system to solve this problem (literally yesterday). We will be testing it internally to make sure it causes no new issues and to see if it requires any rebalance on the weapon.

We have also found issues with the Mass Driver projectile and client/server de-sync. In poor network conditions the projectile can GÇ£miss the markGÇ¥ making the weapon feel unreliable. We are looking in to this issue as well.

We are considering increasing the splash radius but we are hesitant to make significant changes to the weapons balance whilst we are still encountering technical issues with its performance. WeGÇÖll keep you informed on how the new splash fix works out.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

I agree with all changes made to the mass driver this build.

And the mass driver was and still is my primary weapon.

1. The mass driver blast radius was far too large last build, I could drop 3+ dudes in 2-3 well placed Freedom rounds.

2. Damage, see above.

3. Nanohives shouldn't of been that good at a standard level. Get advanced, If you're a logibro then you should already have them. (The difference between adv nanos and standard was far too small last build, especially with the gauged variant)


The damage application of the mass driver round is something that does need looked at though. As the target can jump and avoid all damage, be on an incline and avoid all damage. Which is pretty ridiculous. At least they fixed for the most part the direct hits actually hitting.


Also the Mass Driver was NEVER supposed to be a CQC weapon thats why its a support, for supporting team mates who are the damage dealers and if you're a logibro using it then switch to a repair tool as in PC friendly fire will be turned on, so more than likely a mass driver user needs to stop firing after the enemy gets so close which was the probable reasoning behind the blast radius. (old blast radius would of killed most of my team mates)

The problem with you logic is that you are saying MD should be a support weapon for distance. But the father a target stands from MD the longer it takes for the shell to reach the rarget and in Dust shells fly too slow relative to infantry speed, so by the time the shell explodes the targe is no where near the blast radius (since the blast radius is so small now). So MD is mostly viable for CQC only now.