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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.05.07 05:58:00 -
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Moving around and through structures cause many more instances where the avatar sticks when trying to go around things, or gets stuck on terrain.
This is new since Uprising. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
33
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:11:00 -
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Agreed. This issue makes gameplay unsmooth. This needs to be fixed along with all the previous bugs prior to uprising if you don't want the would to laugh at you when you remove the "beta" tag. CCP did everything to polish the looks, but failed so badly and fixing core issues that have been around, and now are creating more problems too. 10 years my ass. |
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CCP Praetorian
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:53:00 -
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CCP Tigris and co are working on updated overview maps in the map section of the forums. Please point out where you guys are getting stuck in a forum post and get that info on the forums, and to CCP Tigris. He'll look into it.  |
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CCP Tigris
C C P
C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:26:00 -
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Hey guys! I'm CCP Tigris, a senior level designer working on DUST 514. We will provide updated map images as soon as we can. In the meantime, if you find yourself getting stuck at a location in a map or if you notice other collision issues, if you could provide me with a description of where you are finding these issues (such as "next to a rock near a truck on the south side of the four-objective skirmish map with the big towers") , I will do my best to locate that area and reproduce the issue.
Thank you very much! |
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smartlayer
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:13:00 -
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i bet it's too late to implement but back in time in 2003 in planetside one you had a command that were allowing you to auto send coordinate of the place you where stuck in (was not the /stuck command, was another one i dont remember |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
193
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:35:00 -
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The issue is that it isn't necessarily one place. it is any object. It is too wide spread of an issue to just say hey- i get stuck here and point. Boxes, railings, walls, null canons, you name it!
I'd have to say I get stuck here and wave my hands in a grandiose sweeping motion. |
Brass Stalker
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:55:00 -
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place holder ~ locations |
RazielJones
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:58:00 -
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To be honest My toon gets stuck if he walks to close to the edge of most objects, or small steps or slight elevations |
Kazio De Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc.
C0VEN
12
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:17:00 -
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RazielJones wrote:To be honest My toon gets stuck if he walks to close to the edge of most objects, or small steps or slight elevations
This... |
Xndr 78th
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
17
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Posted - 2013.05.07 10:09:00 -
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RazielJones wrote:To be honest My toon gets stuck if he walks to close to the edge of most objects, or small steps or slight elevations
same for me |
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JX1
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:01:00 -
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Exactly the same for me.
I only worked with Unreal Engine 0-2.5 and never touched 3 but this smells like a very poorly done automated map optimization sweep. |
Baal Omniscient
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
483
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:22:00 -
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mollerz wrote:The issue is that it isn't necessarily one place. it is any object. It is too wide spread of an issue to just say hey- i get stuck here and point. Boxes, railings, walls, null canons, you name it!
I'd have to say I get stuck here and wave my hands in a grandiose sweeping motion.
This.
It's not that particular spots are sticky, it's more like every raised surface or object placed on the map. Bushes and such don't stick you, but anything you normally shouldn't be able to walk through tends to grab you if you get too close or bump it the wrong way. I've walked past corners of rocks and buildings with a good 0.5m distance between me and the edge and still got hung up on it, and it happens ALL OVER the maps.
I will say I haven't hung up on a small box crate like the ones we had last build that are stacked onto each other. Yet. |
Whizawk
Omega Risk Control Services
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:52:00 -
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I get stuck or glued to most of the large 'freight crates' that are mostly on all maps, specially at the corners of the prop (when you try to run around it).
I also get stuck on a map which has players battle over a Gallente complex. Specifically there are gaps in the outer walls of the complex which have been destroyed and also have bits of wall rubble on the floor. If you try to pass through this gap the avatar will constantly fall through the floor and get stuck. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
502
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:00:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:mollerz wrote:The issue is that it isn't necessarily one place. it is any object. It is too wide spread of an issue to just say hey- i get stuck here and point. Boxes, railings, walls, null canons, you name it!
I'd have to say I get stuck here and wave my hands in a grandiose sweeping motion. This. It's not that particular spots are sticky, it's more like every raised surface or object placed on the map. Bushes and such don't stick you, but anything you normally shouldn't be able to walk through tends to grab you if you get too close or bump it the wrong way. I've walked past corners of rocks and buildings with a good 0.5m distance between me and the edge and still got hung up on it, and it happens ALL OVER the maps. I will say I haven't hung up on a small box crate like the ones we had last build that are stacked onto each other. Yet.
I've had the same experience. But I've been most conscious of it when travesing slopes/sides of hills. Areas which I had no trouble traversing in Chromasome have become sticky-deathtraps in Uprising. |
Luke Vetri
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
80
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:23:00 -
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Agreed its much worse and does not seem to be in one particular spot.
I mainly get stuck running up stairs and as I turn at the top get stuck on the railings or wall, I'm not running into it, more like brushing past it, can't see the edge of it on the screen, but it stops me dead. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
373
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:35:00 -
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Luke Vetri wrote:Agreed its much worse and does not seem to be in one particular spot.
I mainly get stuck running up stairs and as I turn at the top get stuck on the railings or wall, I'm not running into it, more like brushing past it, can't see the edge of it on the screen, but it stops me dead.
Railings and walls seem particularly common examples of the new "stickiness" |
Sean Huntsman
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:37:00 -
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Agreed, its not /stuck per se, its that EVERY object you brush up against stops you from moving, every crate, every wall, every railing. Its like the world is made of superglue and you have to keep from touching any object or it will snag your shirt.
It feels like there is no sliding physics setup like most other games have. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
373
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:57:00 -
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Sean Huntsman wrote:Agreed, its not /stuck per se, its that EVERY object you brush up against stops you from moving, every crate, every wall, every railing. Its like the world is made of superglue and you have to keep from touching any object or it will snag your shirt.
It feels like there is no sliding physics setup like most other games have.
Yes, exactly. |
Isarian Menoptra
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:12:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sean Huntsman wrote:Agreed, its not /stuck per se, its that EVERY object you brush up against stops you from moving, every crate, every wall, every railing. Its like the world is made of superglue and you have to keep from touching any object or it will snag your shirt.
It feels like there is no sliding physics setup like most other games have. Yes, exactly.
This is exactly true. Any edge of an object that you can "slide" along will cause you to become stuck. Additionally the top of stairs that have a "bezel" around the top step also cause you to become stuck. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
827
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:40:00 -
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It seems to happen on almost every single wall or object in the game at some point. The new textures and shaders, they are made of velcro?
But running across any of the slopes near the pull out above objective C on "Manus Peak" style map I have been able to get "stuck" on slopes moving along the contour line. Not up or down, but around any slope, following the slope at the same elevation.
And yes, getting stuck while traversing slopes is back to E 3 levels of quicksand on a hillside. |
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RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
113
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:09:00 -
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I will concur with most posters that this is an issue with an overwhelming number of terrain features throughout various maps. I do not notice it so much with "man-made" objects or structures, but most of the natural terrain (small hills, rock outcropings, etc...) make you feel like you are wading through quicksand. The issue severely hampers the ability to maneuver, evade and engage in most reflexive combat situations. |
Valentine Crendre
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:38:00 -
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This issue has been around for quite some time, unfortunately. It's still very prominent in this build.
Simply, clipping a wall, edge of a doorway, railings, etc. oftentimes get me stuck completely still (and often killed -_-). You would think you would just roll off of your shoulder or hip if you ran into something at an angle...
Can't the programmers put some sort of line that calculates the speed and angle you are moving at, when you collide with something. Then you move at a lower speed while you're "running into a wall at an angle"... Think the old Doom/Wolfenstein shooters
Its hard to give details on where it happens... because it happens damn near everywhere. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
226
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:16:00 -
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Bump also please fix the goddamn slopes. Make it so that either you an climb them or not. Don't make me waste time trying to climb an unclimbable slope. |
Gladys Havelock
Prima Gallicus
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:22:00 -
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Sean Huntsman wrote:Agreed, its not /stuck per se, its that EVERY object you brush up against stops you from moving, every crate, every wall, every railing. Its like the world is made of superglue and you have to keep from touching any object or it will snag your shirt.
It feels like there is no sliding physics setup like most other games have.
Totally agreed. |
Spunty
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
14
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:32:00 -
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RazielJones wrote:To be honest My toon gets stuck if he walks to close to the edge of most objects, or small steps or slight elevations
Unfortunately this is true for me as well.
It's like my suit is made of magnets and everything is made of metal. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
100
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:34:00 -
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+1 got stuck in the null cannon structure twice, i think it happens when i activate running. I need to duck and move slowly. |
Tok'Ra Operative
Tok'Ra.
8
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:31:00 -
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+1, getting stuck all over the place. Numerous times per battle. |
matsumoto yuichi san
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:30:00 -
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essentially corners or anything resembling corners, including but not limited to areas where a higher terrain slope meets a lower terrain slope, railings, so on, if there is a bump that you want to walk around it's made of glue
and i still get a lot of bouncing from not deciding if i can stand places, this is almost everywhere with a moderate terrain slop, most notably though near the top or bottom of a hill, again where terrain slope goes from high to low... |
tastzlike chicken
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
68
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:01:00 -
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CCP Tigris wrote:Hey guys! I'm CCP Tigris, a senior level designer working on DUST 514. We will provide updated map images as soon as we can. In the meantime, if you find yourself getting stuck at a location in a map or if you notice other collision issues, if you could provide me with a description of where you are finding these issues (such as "next to a rock near a truck on the south side of the four-objective skirmish map with the big towers") , I will do my best to locate that area and reproduce the issue.
Thank you very much!
Hi,
If there were only a few examples it would be easier to provide you with information; however, the problem is widespread. I'm getting hung up on minor elevation changes all over the place.
and then there are the invisible walls. For example, on the Manus peak map between C and A there is a small island of rock. On the C side of this formation below the spire and between a smaller rock on the ground there is a significant invisible barrier. It can be jumped over...
Also, in general I fell like I have to overcome a small but irritating velcro like adhesion if I get too close to many of the objects in the game including people. |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:00:00 -
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Happened multiple times last night:
On ashland skirmish atop objective A platform there are several cargo containers near the catwalk. While attempting to round, noticed that tie-downs on corners were able to halt me in my tracks. Confirmed by making multiple ccw rotations around container closest to catwalk.
On skim junction at objective c i was hung up on the wall several times. The wall opposite the recessed terminal at c has multiple areas that stick out like ribs/spines (tall, back-slanted from floor to 10+ meters overhead). The worst offender is the rib on the corner to the south or C. When rounding that corner after hacking C i would encounter enemies, turn back toward C, and attempt to sprint back toward C to elude the enemy. Upon coming into contact with the wall (vectoring nearly parallel to that path) the wall would halt me in my tracks.
Can duplicate, hope this helps. |
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