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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:40:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:glorified guard dogs for objectives Camper we don't have many options left at this point.....even now, i do my best games when i manage to get set up in a choke point read some of the fiction CCP publishes, the HMG shoots down DROPSHIPS there's a disconnect SOMEWHERE Camper |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:42:00 -
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so much qq lmao |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:14:00 -
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it took quite a bit of time to hash out the tactics of running an armor heavy with an HMG and coming out positive on the Kills.
Meh. the gallente assault suit looks worth a go.
Have fun tankers, the odds of your paper tanks having real threats coming after them dropped sharply when May 6th comes out. stay out of nade range and you'll be unstoppable. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:48:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:on a serious note, do belive w should join forces with all other NON assault suits and grief the CoD fanboys right out of the game be killing nothing but them Why do you want to grief me out of the game? |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
86
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:00:00 -
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Quill Killian wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:glorified guard dogs for objectives Camper we don't have many options left at this point.....even now, i do my best games when i manage to get set up in a choke point read some of the fiction CCP publishes, the HMG shoots down DROPSHIPS there's a disconnect SOMEWHERE Well, yes, if a dropship is silly enough to first come into the HMG's range and then *stay* in range, of course a heavy will knock down a dropship. But that rarely happens, since most dropship pilots are rather intelligent, yes?
yea DS can take it for a bit if its a decent build then gotta pull back if they are flying low and slow, but at range (a few feet higher inless its a good HMG... note the range is being nerfed AND the flight ceiling range so avoiding HMG shouldn`t be hard, but what made it easy to hit DS was the sheer size, it wasn`t neccisary the range needing a nerf in the G2A case). LOL the DS vs Heavy reminds me of our first clan match.... that was funny... |
Drogan Reeth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
18
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:01:00 -
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I would like people to look at this chain gun video in RL and try to tell me that its low dmg, low accuracy or short range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_JQt-erY-Q
Please notice it doesn't even have any bullet spread. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:04:00 -
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Drogan Reeth wrote:I would like people to look at this chain gun video in RL and try to tell me that its low dmg, low accuracy or short range. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_JQt-erY-QPlease notice it doesn't even have any bullet spread.
execpt if the HMG was like that in game, the AR guys would throw a fit
(even thow CCP's DEVS have already written fiction that basically implies that's how the HMG is SUPPOSED to work)
in here somewhere |
bcs1a
ROYAL SQUAD
15
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:15:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote: the HMG shoots down DROPSHIPS
Umm, no, it does not, I sprayed entire clips into a low flying dropship just last night and barely scratched it's shields
General Tiberius1 wrote: there's a disconnect SOMEWHERE
agreed
and let's not forget the trailers, the heavy with the HMG is the featured DPS giver, walking forward and plowing through the enemy...
In reality, we are just something to be scorned by ARs and Laser rifles that shoot us from another point halfway across the map where we have no chance of hitting them at all with our weapons
o/ Bill
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:28:00 -
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bcs1a wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote: the HMG shoots down DROPSHIPS Umm, no, it does not, I sprayed entire clips into a low flying dropship just last night and barely scratched it's shields General Tiberius1 wrote: there's a disconnect SOMEWHERE agreed and let's not forget the trailers, the heavy with the HMG is the featured DPS giver, walking forward and plowing through the enemy... In reality, we are just something to be scorned by ARs and Laser rifles that shoot us from another point halfway across the map where we have no chance of hitting them at all with our weapons o/ Bill don't forget the fiction were we single handedly blow up a dropship AND LAV in a SINGLE clip....
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
140
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:58:00 -
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all the tears are delicious
first of all, only the max range will be lowered aka FALLOFF that means your optimal range is still as high as the AR optimal range.
seconds, isk cost is being normalized, you get the performance you are paying for. you are not supposed to get more than you are paying for. isk matters and has to be considered in balance. you wanted cheaper heavies, you get it.
third, the damage nerf is marginal, you will be still doing the most dps up close
and last, you will be still the one with the highest HP and being able to mount heavy weapons. |
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Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:58:00 -
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The hell did I miss? It seems like heavies still dominate the games I play if they have the proper support. The heavy shouldn't be a death machine that you run around in and just annihilate everyone... |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:15:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:The hell did I miss? It seems like heavies still dominate the games I play if they have the proper support. The heavy shouldn't be a death machine that you run around in and just annihilate everyone...
played in a match recently? we are getting slaughtered by proto assaults
highlited section: why do WE need support to dominate, but assaults dont? |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:33:00 -
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hmmmm, no answer....speaks volumes |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:44:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Selinate deux wrote:The hell did I miss? It seems like heavies still dominate the games I play if they have the proper support. The heavy shouldn't be a death machine that you run around in and just annihilate everyone... played in a match recently? we are getting slaughtered by proto assaults highlited section: why do WE need support to dominate, but assaults dont? 2x Advanced Heavy + 2x Standard Logi > 4x Proto Assault. |
fred orpaul
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2013.05.05 10:53:00 -
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and you guys are losing heavy sharp shooter sooooo good luck doing any thing with forge guns. Scouts ate not mentioned I see, so I assume no buffs for us, and scrambler rifles will take out our only real tank, and missle pistles will one hit us so scouts are irrelevant too. Soooooo looks like if you spec into any thing other then AR assualt/sniper you are wasting your time. Add to that that there are no tanks bonuses to blasters, and swarms are unnecessary, if you can't kill rails with AV nades your not gonna do any better with swarm. Oh and whats the point in logis is heaves are broken, WTE of free fits that build a nest and swap suits.
guhhhhh I'm losing interest in this new build real fast, and I haven't even played it yet. |
fred orpaul
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2013.05.05 10:56:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Selinate deux wrote:The hell did I miss? It seems like heavies still dominate the games I play if they have the proper support. The heavy shouldn't be a death machine that you run around in and just annihilate everyone... played in a match recently? we are getting slaughtered by proto assaults highlited section: why do WE need support to dominate, but assaults dont? 2x Advanced Heavy + 2x Standard Logi > 4x Proto Assault.
aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa, why because you can't go toe to toe with them, **** my STD scout can take out a logi heavy pair, and with heavies having even less range its gonna be a walk it the park. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:59:00 -
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fred orpaul wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Selinate deux wrote:The hell did I miss? It seems like heavies still dominate the games I play if they have the proper support. The heavy shouldn't be a death machine that you run around in and just annihilate everyone... played in a match recently? we are getting slaughtered by proto assaults highlited section: why do WE need support to dominate, but assaults dont? 2x Advanced Heavy + 2x Standard Logi > 4x Proto Assault. aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa, why because you can't go toe to toe with them, **** my STD scout, never mind my assault, can take out a logi heavy pair, and with heavies having even less range and damage? its gonna be a walk it the park.
precisely
in a few hours we will get to find out just how screwy everything has become |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
494
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:00:00 -
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Hope you guys have ALTs to test the waters with first. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
185
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:10:00 -
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Choices are fun. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:27:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Choices are fun.
choices are fine
but changes are bad
(ever play skirmish 1.0? nothing has topped it since) |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:42:00 -
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fred orpaul wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Selinate deux wrote:The hell did I miss? It seems like heavies still dominate the games I play if they have the proper support. The heavy shouldn't be a death machine that you run around in and just annihilate everyone... played in a match recently? we are getting slaughtered by proto assaults highlited section: why do WE need support to dominate, but assaults dont? 2x Advanced Heavy + 2x Standard Logi > 4x Proto Assault. aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa, why because you can't go toe to toe with them, **** my STD scout, never mind my assault, can take out a logi heavy pair, and with heavies having even less range and damage? its gonna be a walk it the park. If you get behind the Logi/Heavy pair and target the Logi first (easier with a Scout, so not sure how "never mind my Assault" applies), you can take them down. With 2 of each, and competent players, you won't be getting the drop on them as easily, and the Heavies make good cover for the Logis. I've seen a single Standard Heavy and a single MILITIA Logi tank their way through 6 Assaults and another Heavy while taking constant Sniper fire. I was the Logi. The Heavy finally died when the enemy Heavy came back, but he was badly-wounded enough that I managed to finish him off, then went after the Sniper. |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
1
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:59:00 -
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You mean if I turn the corner and see a heavy, I won't get instagibbed anymore?!? That's so broken! How dare they take away a standard HMG's ability to rip apart a protosuit in under 2 seconds! Having to rely on player skill and actual SP investment is a joke, CCP. Absolutely unfair for week-1 players if you ask me. |
Hunter Junko
Bojo's School of the Trades
86
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Posted - 2013.05.06 11:07:00 -
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i'll continue to quote myself in regards to this topic with this quote:
HunterJunko wrote:so yeah i might come to forget this when i sober up, but for those who are staying a heavy weathering the bullets, and the storm of nerfs, keeping this niche of being a tank, i salut ya o7 if you see me on the field as a blue dot Logistics operator, know that i will do everything in my power to keep you alive. keep showing CCP that your kind will resist, will persevere and will one day prosper in New Eden. |
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