I'm late on thus news. Is it offical? Did they nerf HMG damage AND range? WHAT THE FLYING **** CCP?!?!?!

I'm considering it now too :(

I don't know how to make a real difference but I'm foing to start tweeting at themm about this because everyone knows aggro tweets garner actual attention. I seriously just don't knowhow they can explain this.

What does D 10 think of all this?

Ooh price of dropships approximately halved

4 low and 1 hi, meanwhile every other suits gets at least 6 slots total plus equipment.

Heavy? 5 total and no equipment.

Muh balance mufugga.

Isn't that what they kinda are though? Slow moving high HP death machines, right? You're going to have over 500 shields and well over 1k armor, based on your HP alone and the SS removal on ARs it's going to be extremely difficult to kill a heavy one on one.

FIRSTLY: you did not have to post the ENTIRE patch note to make your point, you only needed to copy and paste the specific heavy related notes and if you were feeling really good, the link to the actual forum post.

SECONDLY: its not as bad as you think it is. If you thought about it you might actually know why. The sharpshooter skill for ALL weapons no longer effects range on rifles. So what does this mean? it means 1.) no more across the map laser snipes, 2.) no more across the map AR snipes 3.) no more across the map SMG snipes 4.) no more across the map..... do you get the point?? No more sniping heavies across the map with anything less then a sniper rifle = A HEAVY BUFF.

Now my heavy sharpshooter skill is zero and I can still do great with an HMG, after may 6th if you get killed "at range" by somebody then its your own fault because 9 times out of 10 the shooter is going to be at a range that you "should have" been able to kill him at too. The HMG nerf just makes the lack of sharpshooter more smooth because now things should be more or less proportionate to before except everyones at a much closer range..... oh wait a second..... closer range?? isn't that what heavies like/need?? (buff).....

THIRDLY: not that its official or anything but I did see a bit of notes on the.... patch notes?? and it said that ALL HEAVY SUITS WILL COST THE EQUIVALENT OF ASSAULT SUITS ON THE SAME META LEVEL. (Heavy Proto Vk. 1 = 90k instead of 250k now)......... (BUFF). It also said the same with all weapons too, AND it even said that adv level gear and lower costs less then it used too...... so basically that's one massive buff.

THEN FINALLY I heard somewhere on here that the HP count for heavies is buffing up a bit (like having the possibility of having 1500 health). that's not official but in any case I would say this build is more or less ONE MASSIVE HEAVY BUFF. so quit your whining and actually read the entire patch note before you go crying on the forums.

you guys have no idea how the next build is going to work. i have never seen one predication come true on these forums,

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ZYhVpdXbQ

Correct m if I'm wrong but dont the new heavies start with 400 base shields and armor with four low? Passively bring both base up to 500 and with stacked plates that's pretty close to 2000. Yes heavies move slow. Yes you can't run across an open field. But you have more HP than most LAVs.

Damnit CCP....

Why do you constantly have to nerf heavies.. we are not in such a good place you can afford to do that. We will already have less dps anyway from the loss of high slots and now this?

It is when it's convenient for them, cause poo is better than expensive poo

That would have made sense. Now I see why they didn't do it.

I saw it and it's complete bullshit. You suck, CCP.

+1
And you were scoffing on me giving up till May 6th, smh

I think he was talking about me. Lol. I'm trying to keep an open mind going into Uprising. Stats only mean so much when you're just looking at them. I'll judge everything when I get my hands on things on the 6th.

Enough sadness. This stuff right here made me happy.



We've been asking for this. At least they did something good for us.

Don't give up. That's what these AR humping Codboys want us to do. Leaving a role that you like is just another victory for them. This isn't AR 514 yet, but it's getting close. Play with a chip on your shoulder, don't take any prisoners. The next time you see some little snot nosed basement dweller with an AR, remember what they've taken from you and take it back from them on the battlefield.

Yo, is yo bacon dtickin' around even if Heavies become as useless as scouts next build?

As long as the game does not become (insert weapon type here) 514, I'll be happy on that front.

Here is my two cents on this whole thing, straight from personal experience:

HMG Heavies: You do NOT want that gun to be pointed at your general direction, and their armor tanking is quite effective. They are killable when flanked, but its best to fight them with teammates, as they can only tank so much damage at once. This will be even more difficult if they have support from their teammates too.

AR Guys: Effective at most situations, can potentially kill HMG heavies with back up from the side or rear if they can catch them alone and unaware. But if they are caught by one... they might as well be AR Sponges. Don't me started if the heavy has back up as well, especially if said back up includes logibros.

As for which one is truly OP/UP, given the ton of variables that are involved in this (existence and use of cover, skill of the players involved, teammate involvement, gear types used/tech levels, etc), I honestly can't really figure that one out right now.

Anyone would like to help me out with this? That would be awesome! :)

Too hard to wait for new build to drop first and see what is "broken" an what is not I guess :)
You guys really make drama (like 2-3 guys lol) over every single thing before actual game gets patched :D

I will play heavy still and prove everyone it is far from broken lol

hear, hear....

o/
Bill

Camper

I would like people to look at this chain gun video in RL and try to tell me that its low dmg, low accuracy or short range.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_JQt-erY-Q

Please notice it doesn't even have any bullet spread.

Umm, no, it does not, I sprayed entire clips into a low flying dropship just last night and barely scratched it's shields





agreed

and let's not forget the trailers, the heavy with the HMG is the featured DPS giver, walking forward and plowing through the enemy...

In reality, we are just something to be scorned by ARs and Laser rifles that shoot us from another point halfway across the map where we have no chance of hitting them at all with our weapons

o/
Bill




don't forget the fiction were we single handedly blow up a dropship AND LAV in a SINGLE clip....

The hell did I miss? It seems like heavies still dominate the games I play if they have the proper support. The heavy shouldn't be a death machine that you run around in and just annihilate everyone...

aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa, why because you can't go toe to toe with them, **** my STD scout, never mind my assault, can take out a logi heavy pair, and with heavies having even less range and damage? its gonna be a walk it the park.

Choices are fun.