A let down?

I take it you didn't go to Fanfest then because if you'd played it and *ahem* joined 8 guys who'd never played Dust ever before with 8 that had and helped them to second place in the first ever Dust/Eve tourney, well a let it most certainly ain't.

It still has a lot of lacking UI in the game but its a massive, massive leap from Chromosome.

Let down... Come back here on the 7th and say that.

Seriously though, fair play to the CPM and CCP on this decision. Many we're saying it and it makes perfect sense.

Now, to send my hopefully last corp mail using the currently nightmare way before it comes in working properly on the 6th warning the student body to not go tonto with the SP reset till they're sure what they want to specialise in.

I'll be telling them to get the core skills up to 5 regardless however.

The way I read it, the only change they've made is that we'll be unable to purchase clone packs until the 14th. All other planned features for the 6th and the 14th remain the same. They're putting the system in place on the 6th, plus the new content that was planned for the 6th, but holding off on actually letting us purchase clone packs and holding districts until the 14th.

And because there can only be one "attack" on a district every 24 hours, the 14th/15th will be taken up with taking unclaimed territory, and the first fight (where one corp attacks a district being held by another corp) will not be until the 16th.

Which should give us plenty of time to figure out which end of a scrambler rifle to use.

The skill point respec happens on May 6th, but new content (weapons, dropsuits, etc.) being released on May 14th leaves players a hard choice: Spend skill points to do good now and miss out on the new items, or save the skill points and risk missing out on the first wave of conquest.

I agree that this is the most likely way to interpret the devblog, there is certainly some language that confuses the issue. For example

DEVBlog wrote:

The skill point respec happens on May 6th, but new content (weapons, dropsuits, etc.) being released on May 14th leaves players a hard choice: Spend skill points to do good now and miss out on the new items, or save the skill points and risk missing out on the first wave of conquest.

This was in the list of things that were bad about the May 6th PC release, not what they plan to change. I'll admit I didn't think there were any dropsuits coming out on the 14th, though.

6th - Uprising, dropsuits and skill reset.
14th - Official launch, 3 new weapons and Planetary Conquest is enabled.

Just a yes or no from CCP would do wonders.

The skill point respec happens on May 6th, but new content (weapons, dropsuits, etc.) being released on May 14th leaves players a hard choice: Spend skill points to do good now and miss out on the new items, or save the skill points and risk missing out on the first wave of conquest.

I am really not one to get on the forums and rage.

I read dev posts, post a bug or balance discussion intermittently, and that's it.

This announcement, for whatever reason, irks the living hell out of me. It seems irrational, and I'm hoping it is not my inner child just wanting the content Monday not a week later. But to me it seems that this really goes against typical CCP practices. It seemed main thrust of the public outcry I read today wasn't grounded in the skill/weapon time-gap, it was those not on the ball enough to have realized what the region was and do any prep. Those 'not ready' advocating for a date push, regardless of through what avenue they argue their points, are simply leveraging for their own success- a week is a lifetime of additional prep for Dust-side and Eve-side assets to prepare.

The gap for skills is an oddity, sure- but the downsides would be negligible, and will still have to be faced for the week of FW and Pub matches, despite PC being pushed. The main stated issue isn't being addressed. Not to mention that because of the issue with timers in code, spoken about by FoxFour more than once means that 48 hours will elapse, essentially, before first PC battles. That means assuming 6th as release, the 8th would be first conflict, less than a week before weapons content drops on the 14th. The skill point sink for any one of these weapons (610K @ 'x2') could be earned between passive and active during the 2 'weeks' worth or cap spanned by this gap.

I am not making accusations at CCP or anyone advocating for the push, just feels like a ninja nerf to the numerous corps and alliances I know are prepared, and have been, for quite some time. I was taught a long time ago to trust your gut- and this just feels like FORUMWHINE= ACTION.

I love CCP for engaging its customers in the way it does, I brag on their business model- and have even stole some of their tricks for engaging customers to use at the software company I work for (CSM clone of customer stakeholders is in the works at my firm). I deal with customers and custom software requests every day myself. From this I know that there is such a thing as being too responsive to customers- especially if it goes against the other half of the CCP corporate mentality many of us admire:

HTFU

Have to disagree with you jak, while this might screw over some people who had booked time off work etc, this is a good thing. It gives us time to get used to how everything works in the new build, and have some time where we can just give feedback as to how everything behaves without having to worry about PC.

I'm not really understanding why this is the solution instead of just releasing the guns on the 6th.

I'm not really understanding why this is the solution instead of just releasing the guns on the 6th.

This or pushing the reset to the 14th. There is no reason to have it on the 6th.

I like the changes listed, I love the idea of Planetary conquest. I assume the districts are, like areas, divided on the planet, either by terrain or some territorial line drawn in the sand, displayed with highlights as you hover your cursor over it?

It's a fun idea, honestly I like how you want to incorporate EvE more into the Dust Universe, since that was the rough idea all along.

I'm wondering about how many worlds we'd start at, since giving us only a few starter planets in this particular galaxy for us to fight over would quickly become a attrition war which the 'larger' corps would always win. I understand that's only fair, which leads me to wonder if you could update a few small things.

For one, friend lists should display when they last were logged on, or if they are in a match, same for Corp lists, to help with organization.

The 'locked' district after capture idea was interesting. So, I assume, you can only reconfigure these districts to how you like, like, for instance, one entire planet based around research production, or clone production only, but only after you win a fight in defending a district?....

Also I am curious as to your plans for....well, the best way to phrase this is a throwback to the intro scene, where the one female clone raises/joins an army, with the many dropships swarming the skies...it was very invigorating and extremely awesome and cool.

A sight, I hope, will someday be made a reality on the battlefield. Yes ships are kinda expensive but it's freaking awesome too. So, with this in mind, I am wondering if you will be including things such as vehicle en masse warp points, "Hanger" Infrastructure development...

Ok...it's a little crazy, but bear with me. Say, just for instance, you are a corp leader leading an attack on a new planet, to conquer a district, would it be possible to establish a 'line' of dropships being flown in for your army to mount up? The same question can go to a leader building a Hanger, with ships and other vehicles already loaded and ready to be grabbed by the defending members of his corp?

I posit this question for several reasons. 1: Adding a new dynamic to how to 'invade' a region, 2: to question whether interplanetary clone exporting and vehicle exporting, can become a viable method of strategy, adding to the depth and the action of the game. And finally, 3: to question whether these options can be integrated into the 'buildings' of the game's terrain itself, since you already stated that the structures such as Research or Production, would be different, and have some impact on the battlefield itself (I assume that these structures could also be damaged in some way, since it IS a battlefield, and friendly fire IS active, or will be) And so I am hoping that in future updates, perhaps in a year, or when ever it is functionally possible, to expand so that each district on these large planets, can have more then one structurally significant operation or defensive means.

This idea is already in place, whether your team realizes it or not. Turret deployment, for instance, of Missile and Railgun Instillations is already a very real occurance, in which most maps which feature a "Base" such as the research depot map, with it's A B and C points inside the base, in a rough triangle formation, while D and E are outside, one per side of the conflict...it is most likely that when joining this map, there will be at least four or more turrets arranged in a rough ring around the installation, as if to defend it....This makes perfect sense in that the "Base" should have defenses. Now, my idea, is capitalizing on that 'common sense' and expanding into other means, such as, as I said, a hanger facility, with vehicles already deployed for convenience of the defending squads. This also causes Planetary Bombardment calls to require far more strategy, which I assume will be a more regular occurrence since we will now have a larger amount of players able to join and aid in the fight. Thus, more Warpoints for the squad leaders.


Hope this makes sense, I await some replies.

At this time no, EVE players will not be able to directly see the owners of districts. We are thinking of ways to improve this though.

This or pushing the reset to the 14th. There is no reason to have it on the 6th.

The skill point respec happens on May 6th, but new content (weapons, dropsuits, etc.) being released on May 14th leaves players a hard choice: Spend skill points to do good now and miss out on the new items, or save the skill points and risk missing out on the first wave of conquest.

This is still a major issue... whats happening? am i going to have to save my skill points for when everything comes out out?