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Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 632	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:12:00 - [61] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Even though I saw it coming this time and took full advantage, these "week in a day" pseudo-events are deeply unfair and should not be allowed to happen again. Unfair for whom? Those that have spare time and are short on money are quite happy with them. I'm not sure how an unannounced, single day event where players "in the know" with the ability to free up 10-15 hours for grinding can get a three week advantage could possibly be considered anything resembling "fair". The last thing this game needs is more ways for the vets to pull ahead of the SP curve.
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 200	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:13:00 - [62] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Even though I saw it coming this time and took full advantage, these "week in a day" pseudo-events are deeply unfair and should not be allowed to happen again. Unfair for whom? Those that have spare time and are short on money are quite happy with them. aka people with no jobs. lol
hooc order Deep Space Republic 6	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:23:00 - [63] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Even though I saw it coming this time and took full advantage, these "week in a day" pseudo-events are deeply unfair and should not be allowed to happen again. Unfair for whom? Those that have spare time and are short on money are quite happy with them. I'm not sure how an unannounced, single day event where players "in the know" with the ability to free up 10-15 hours for grinding can get a three week advantage could possibly be considered anything resembling "fair". The last thing this game needs is more ways for the vets to pull ahead of the SP curve. No one cares about you. Let me repeat that NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU. This was designed to make new players at a specific time between advertisement pushes happy so CCP can stay in business. Fair has nothing, nor should it have anything, to do with being fair. It was a good choice by CCP...now be happy with the 7 million SP you already have and sit down.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 635	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:42:00 - [64] - Quote hooc order wrote: No one cares about you. Let me repeat that NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU. This was designed to make new players at a specific time between advertisement pushes happy so CCP can stay in business. This has nothing, nor should it have anything, to do with being fair. It was a good choice by CCP...now be happy with the 7 million SP you already have and sit down. That's pretty dark. What about Jesus and Buddah? (probably my ma, too) Also, I'm not entirely sure we are talking about the same thing. I have absolutely no issues with the main triple XP event, and am currently enjoying the extra 1.8ish million SP I earned from the whole ordeal. It's these weird remainder days that CCP keeps (intentionally?) sneaking in that I have a problem with. Doesn't it make more sense to reset the SP cap and end the event at the same time?
hooc order Deep Space Republic 6	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:27:00 - [65] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: . Doesn't it make more sense to reset the SP cap and end the event at the same time? I guess but who cares. SP is only really beneficial to new players. Old players get very small return on it after filling up the skills of their main role. So ultimately this brings newer players closer up with the older players in terms of gear/skill point abilities. Plus this is only really a symptom of ccp's choice to put too much value on SP rather then in actual skill in the current configuration of the game. If it was triple WP (with no corresponding bonus to SP) or triple ISk, or triple scavenge no one would care. You don't see many complaints about the human endurance event do you? Yet human endurance event benefits those no life players as well. CCP made a mistake with SP in general....it looks to me they have started to fix that mistake by closing the gap between talented new players and no talent old players who are sitting on a bunch of SP. The various nerfs and buffs coming to weapons and gear and skill tree seem to echo this trend.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organization 2170	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:46:00 - [66] - Quote There is no point in getting all worked up over this.
bcs1a ROYAL SQUAD 2	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:47:00 - [67] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Even though I saw it coming this time and took full advantage, these "week in a day" pseudo-events are deeply unfair and should not be allowed to happen again. Unfair for whom? Those that have spare time and are short on money are quite happy with them. I'm not sure how an unannounced, single day event where players "in the know" with the ability to free up 10-15 hours for grinding can get a three week advantage could possibly be considered anything resembling "fair". The last thing this game needs is more ways for the vets to pull ahead of the SP curve. wait wut? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70077 announced week long event to run in conjunction with fanfest... the only thing unclear/unannounced about it was CCP's use of the term "through" and not following through with its actual meaning. o/ Bill
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 128	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:53:00 - [68] - Quote Rynx Sinfar wrote: I'm not so much angry about it occuring as I am confused as to WHY it had to occur. It started on Wednesday, why not end it then? Was there some reason? Someone it was meant to benefit that you were grateful to? Was it to get boosters burning a bit longer? I'm half convinced they are testing AFK detection methods. The Endurance Event was asking for AFKers. The 3x SP event was asking for it even harder. The 1 day extra of it actually got a mini freaking event going of AFKers. Were they looking to increase the test pool for when the released their AFK preventatives? The plot thickens...
bcs1a ROYAL SQUAD 2	Posted - 2013.05.02 23:25:00 - [69] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: There is no point in getting all worked up over this. agreed, I specifically woke up this morning expecting 3x SP only to find that it was not happening... Sure I'm a little disappointed and I set aside the whole day to grind a couple of toons, but, it is what it is... Now I'll just take the time to relax with my corpies and run battles at a less hectic pace using my newly bumped up skills... o/ Bill
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 254	Posted - 2013.05.03 12:43:00 - [70] - Quote bcs1a wrote: Halador Osiris wrote: You make me sad to be an American. I could quite well say the same of you sir: through /THro-Po/ Preposition Moving in one side and out of the other side of (an opening, channel, or location): "stepping through the doorway". Adjective (of a means of public transportation or a ticket) Continuing or valid to the final destination: "a through train from Boston". Synonyms preposition. by - thru - over - for - via - per - in - on - out of adjective. thru - direct - nonstop - straight So when CCP says "through" the 2nd, people with an educational level above 1st grade rightly think "inclusive of" or "until the end of" Next time you're going to beat someone down for making a proper reading of a sentence, please get your facts straight first and keep in mind that most Dust players have no prior experience with CCP in any manner. o/ Bill Did you people seriously expect CCP to end an event at any other time than downtime? And if not, did you think they'd end it on the 3rd? No. This is super ******* easy. CCP ends things at downtime, on the date they say they will. Doesn't matter what words they throw around it. At downtime. On the day they say they will. How many times do I need to repeat myself? At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. Do you get it yet? At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. Remember this for next time. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will.

DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 388	Posted - 2013.05.03 12:54:00 - [71] - Quote Yeah, once again CCP fails (is anybody surprised though?) Love their wording of "THROUGH Thursday", which really meant "it stops on Thursday, and does not go through it at all". Since I could not 24/7 play Dust all day Wednesday, I lost out on almost 400K SP. Based on CCP's fail wording, I was expecting to get another day. Yet, as usual, they screwed many of their players due to garbage and incomplete communication skills.
Chilled Pill Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 32	Posted - 2013.05.03 13:26:00 - [72] - Quote You guys do know that, May 1 is a globally celebrated non-working holiday (Labor Day). A reason the 3x sp Holocon event made it an extra day after weekly cap reset to thursday downtime is also partly because of this. Probably, no one was at work to turn off the 3x sp till thursday. Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they meant 'up to downtime Thursday' as the ending of Holocon event.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 649	Posted - 2013.05.03 13:27:00 - [73] - Quote bcs1a wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Even though I saw it coming this time and took full advantage, these "week in a day" pseudo-events are deeply unfair and should not be allowed to happen again. Unfair for whom? Those that have spare time and are short on money are quite happy with them. I'm not sure how an unannounced, single day event where players "in the know" with the ability to free up 10-15 hours for grinding can get a three week advantage could possibly be considered anything resembling "fair". The last thing this game needs is more ways for the vets to pull ahead of the SP curve. wait wut? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70077 announced week long event to run in conjunction with fanfest... the only thing unclear/unannounced about it was CCP's use of the term "through" and not following through with its actual meaning. o/ Bill Fine. "Unannounced" was a poor linguistic choice. Though it's not like they ever said "BTW, the cap resets before the event ends, so if you cap out again between those times you can get another three weeks worth of SP." Now before the accusations of 'butthurt because you missed it' start flying, let me add that I did not miss it. I am a wee bit butthurt over having to grind for 10 hours, but obviously I thought it was worth it. (Wouldn't you work a 24 hour shift at your job in a heartbeat if they were going to pay you three weeks wages and then give you the rest of the week off?) I just wish, like you guys, that CCP would be completely straightforward with how their events are going to work. I realize that these remainder days are probably in their to accommodate primetime downtime plagued Australia, but I'm assuming that the Aussies are already adept at navigating the weekly cap.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES EoN. 138	Posted - 2013.05.03 16:46:00 - [74] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: 2.) The 3x SP event does not increase the amount of time it takes to gain the SP in question. Your cap is still about 200,000 SP, Boosters (and this event) just increase the amount on top of what you would normally make unboosted. Actually, the around 2 million SP I earned disagrees with you. Cap was temporarily increased to be able to earn the tripled amount of total skill points as well.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 15	Posted - 2013.05.03 17:05:00 - [75] - Quote The root of the issue is misleading/misunderstood usage of the word "through". I was bummed out that it did not include Thursday (the way I read it) too. /shrug
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 15	Posted - 2013.05.03 17:08:00 - [76] - Quote Chilled Pill wrote: You guys do know that, May 1 is a globally celebrated non-working holiday (Labor Day). A reason the 3x sp Holocon event made it an extra day after weekly cap reset to thursday downtime is also partly because of this. Probably, no one was at work to turn off the 3x sp till thursday. Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they meant 'up to downtime Thursday' as the ending of Holocon event. "Hello, you have reached the voicemail of Chilled Pill. I will be on vacation through Thursday" ... so your boss expects you at work Friday because "through" includes Thursday.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 168	Posted - 2013.05.03 19:05:00 - [77] - Quote OMG. only on this forum will the minutiae of the word "through" would get debated this hard.
Chilled Pill Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 32	Posted - 2013.05.03 23:04:00 - [78] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Chilled Pill wrote: You guys do know that, May 1 is a globally celebrated non-working holiday (Labor Day). A reason the 3x sp Holocon event made it an extra day after weekly cap reset to thursday downtime is also partly because of this. Probably, no one was at work to turn off the 3x sp till thursday. Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they meant 'up to downtime Thursday' as the ending of Holocon event. "Hello, you have reached the voicemail of Chilled Pill. I will be on vacation through Thursday" ... so your boss expects you at work Friday because "through" includes Thursday. EDIT: And timezone arguments prove the point, this would include the Thursday EVE TIME which is GMT and begins at downtime. Oh look downtime was at 11:00 - 12:00 GMT on Thursday. Which for some areas like Australia +10GMT and Asia +8GMT was at 9PM and 7PM respectively, probably qualifying the use of the word 'through'. 'Awwwwww...but that's not 'mericuh time the world kittened us. Next time world, 'mericuh time please. Not to be entitled or anything...'
bcs1a ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 15	Posted - 2013.05.05 04:19:00 - [79] - Quote Halador Osiris wrote: bcs1a wrote: Halador Osiris wrote: You make me sad to be an American. I could quite well say the same of you sir: through /THro-Po/ Preposition Moving in one side and out of the other side of (an opening, channel, or location): "stepping through the doorway". Adjective (of a means of public transportation or a ticket) Continuing or valid to the final destination: "a through train from Boston". Synonyms preposition. by - thru - over - for - via - per - in - on - out of adjective. thru - direct - nonstop - straight So when CCP says "through" the 2nd, people with an educational level above 1st grade rightly think "inclusive of" or "until the end of" Next time you're going to beat someone down for making a proper reading of a sentence, please get your facts straight first and keep in mind that most Dust players have no prior experience with CCP in any manner. o/ Bill Did you people seriously expect CCP to end an event at any other time than downtime? And if not, did you think they'd end it on the 3rd? No. This is super ******* easy. CCP ends things at downtime, on the date they say they will. Doesn't matter what words they throw around it. At downtime. On the day they say they will. How many times do I need to repeat myself? At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. Do you get it yet? At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. Remember this for next time. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. At downtime. On the day they say they will. ahh, I see you missed the point of my response.. good job sir. o/ Bill
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2682	Posted - 2013.05.05 04:28:00 - [80] - Quote Chilled Pill wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Chilled Pill wrote: You guys do know that, May 1 is a globally celebrated non-working holiday (Labor Day). A reason the 3x sp Holocon event made it an extra day after weekly cap reset to thursday downtime is also partly because of this. Probably, no one was at work to turn off the 3x sp till thursday. Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they meant 'up to downtime Thursday' as the ending of Holocon event. "Hello, you have reached the voicemail of Chilled Pill. I will be on vacation through Thursday" ... so your boss expects you at work Friday because "through" includes Thursday. EDIT: And timezone arguments prove the point, this would include the Thursday EVE TIME which is GMT and begins at downtime. Oh look downtime was at 11:00 - 12:00 GMT on Thursday. Which for some areas like Australia +10GMT and Asia +8GMT was at 9PM and 7PM respectively, probably qualifying the use of the word 'through'. 'Awwwwww...but that's not 'mericuh time the world kittened us. Next time world, 'mericuh time please. Not to be entitled or anything...' New Zealand is GMT+12. The downtime ended just before midnight and even WE didn't see them run ALL THE WAY "through" Thursday. But the game runs on EVE time, which is GMT, and "through" still means "through" so they still didn't stick to the exact wording they used. Of course, unlike the Merc Pack issue, their choice of phrasing isn't legally-binding here, so it's not as big a deal.

Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 17	Posted - 2013.05.05 06:07:00 - [81] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chilled Pill wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Chilled Pill wrote: You guys do know that, May 1 is a globally celebrated non-working holiday (Labor Day). A reason the 3x sp Holocon event made it an extra day after weekly cap reset to thursday downtime is also partly because of this. Probably, no one was at work to turn off the 3x sp till thursday. Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they meant 'up to downtime Thursday' as the ending of Holocon event. "Hello, you have reached the voicemail of Chilled Pill. I will be on vacation through Thursday" ... so your boss expects you at work Friday because "through" includes Thursday. EDIT: And timezone arguments prove the point, this would include the Thursday EVE TIME which is GMT and begins at downtime. Oh look downtime was at 11:00 - 12:00 GMT on Thursday. Which for some areas like Australia +10GMT and Asia +8GMT was at 9PM and 7PM respectively, probably qualifying the use of the word 'through'. 'Awwwwww...but that's not 'mericuh time the world kittened us. Next time world, 'mericuh time please. Not to be entitled or anything...' New Zealand is GMT+12. The downtime ended just before midnight and even WE didn't see them run ALL THE WAY "through" Thursday. But the game runs on EVE time, which is GMT, and "through" still means "through" so they still didn't stick to the exact wording they used. Of course, unlike the Merc Pack issue, their choice of phrasing isn't legally-binding here, so it's not as big a deal. This.
bcs1a ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 15	Posted - 2013.05.05 07:57:00 - [82] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chilled Pill wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Chilled Pill wrote: You guys do know that, May 1 is a globally celebrated non-working holiday (Labor Day). A reason the 3x sp Holocon event made it an extra day after weekly cap reset to thursday downtime is also partly because of this. Probably, no one was at work to turn off the 3x sp till thursday. Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they meant 'up to downtime Thursday' as the ending of Holocon event. "Hello, you have reached the voicemail of Chilled Pill. I will be on vacation through Thursday" ... so your boss expects you at work Friday because "through" includes Thursday. EDIT: And timezone arguments prove the point, this would include the Thursday EVE TIME which is GMT and begins at downtime. Oh look downtime was at 11:00 - 12:00 GMT on Thursday. Which for some areas like Australia +10GMT and Asia +8GMT was at 9PM and 7PM respectively, probably qualifying the use of the word 'through'. 'Awwwwww...but that's not 'mericuh time the world kittened us. Next time world, 'mericuh time please. Not to be entitled or anything...' New Zealand is GMT+12. The downtime ended just before midnight and even WE didn't see them run ALL THE WAY "through" Thursday. But the game runs on EVE time, which is GMT, and "through" still means "through" so they still didn't stick to the exact wording they used. Of course, unlike the Merc Pack issue, their choice of phrasing isn't legally-binding here, so it's not as big a deal. This. Right...
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 55	Posted - 2013.05.05 16:35:00 - [83] - Quote Got back from FanFest on Monday evening, made cap (whatever it was) 8 mins before downtime on Wednesday haha I think I did somewhere in the league of 850K. Then from Wednesday DT to Thursday DT, I got about 700K. 1.4 million-ish SP in 4 days was an epic way to wind down from FF. :D I do feel sorry for those who couldn't takefull advantage of it, but you are probably part of the majority. I dare say only a small fraction of DUST 514 gamers fully maximised this event.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2111	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:42:00 - [84] - Quote Time for round 2
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 652	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:43:00 - [85] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Time for round 2 DING DING DING
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 55	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:46:00 - [86] - Quote Wtf? Why did you guys bring this back from the dead. Flame wars aren't going to bring any good. Just be glad CCP is giving this to us and don't complain about it.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2111	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:47:00 - [87] - Quote Will the event on the 10th's DT or the 11th's? Find out next Wednesday!!!
Croned C0NTRA UNIT 21	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:47:00 - [88] - Quote I must say, I was quite confused while reading the first few posts of this thread without looking at the dates...
WhiteMage7322 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 103	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:56:00 - [89] - Quote CCP is doing a x3 SP event and people are whining about it? Wow, I guess there is nothing that satisfy everyone on Dust. XD I will play the devil's advocate. CCP should have announced this at least a week before the event, I can understand that they don't celebrate 4th of July but some do. I say move it a week later than planned.


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