DUST Search - 3x SP event miscommunication: Not entitled but nonetheless irritated

Halador Osiris wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event.

I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!?
So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something.

Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other.

wtf?

So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP.

This was bad for the community and bad for the game.
Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through?

You make me sad to be an American. Allow me to explain some things to you. CCP changes things during downtime, which is at like 11 AM. By the way, it's like 11 AM their time, because CCP operates on UTC/GMT. This means that if you live in the US, changes will occur around 5 AM on the day they say they will. If CCP says the event runs "through" Thursday, what they mean is through until downtime on Thursday. Now HTFU and get used to it.

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Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 14:26:00 - [1] - Quote Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event. I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!? So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something. Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other. wtf? So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP. This was bad for the community and bad for the game. Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through?
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 300	Posted - 2013.05.02 14:32:00 - [2] - Quote I live in Japan and my Thursday is about to end. How CCP didn't fulfill their promise? UMADBRAH?
Orenji Jiji Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 50	Posted - 2013.05.02 14:34:00 - [3] - Quote I know you're butthurting real bad now, but it will get better with time. It's just a game, man, chill.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 356	Posted - 2013.05.02 14:41:00 - [4] - Quote To avoid this problem in the future a simple solution would be to post the start and end time of events. ex. Neckbeard SP Bonanza runs 12:00GMT Thursday May 2 to 3:00 GMT Friday May 10th. Sucks you planned for a Thursday grind.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2733	Posted - 2013.05.02 14:43:00 - [5] - Quote I missed a ton of SP too, **** happens bro. It's a game, relax; have fun with it.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 14:47:00 - [6] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I missed a ton of SP too, **** happens bro. It's a game, relax; have fun with it. I'm chill. I'm saying it was an asinine idea to give players literally 48 straight hours to gain 4 weeks worth of SP. Or alternatively, if they miss that small opportunity they lose a relative month of SP compared to other players. That's 4 weeks in two days! And any reasonable person would have thought this couldn't be the case hence it must end after Thursday's reset and begin the regular weekly cycle. I truly think this was a mistake or oversight.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 239	Posted - 2013.05.02 14:58:00 - [7] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event. I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!? So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something. Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other. wtf? So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP. This was bad for the community and bad for the game. Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through? You make me sad to be an American. Allow me to explain some things to you. CCP changes things during downtime, which is at like 11 AM. By the way, it's like 11 AM their time, because CCP operates on UTC/GMT. This means that if you live in the US, changes will occur around 5 AM on the day they say they will. If CCP says the event runs "through" Thursday, what they mean is through until downtime on Thursday. Now HTFU and get used to it.
Kekklian Noobatronic immobile infantry 1	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:02:00 - [8] - Quote Meh.. Grinded out 5-600k yesterday.. If the SP cap reset like forum posts are saying, I'll be able to get the other 260k before next weds.. In the end, it's the same amount of XP I expected to get all along. So IMO, no harm no foul.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 91	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:06:00 - [9] - Quote Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: Meh.. Grinded out 5-600k yesterday.. If the SP cap reset like forum posts are saying, I'll be able to get the other 260k before next weds.. In the end, it's the same amount of XP I expected to get all along. So IMO, no harm no foul. yep didn't reach cap, but came close kind of hoped I would be able to finish up today but really didn't expect to be able to and I was right, either way I did what I could I don't really care
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 61	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:06:00 - [10] - Quote Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: Meh.. Grinded out 5-600k yesterday.. If the SP cap reset like forum posts are saying, I'll be able to get the other 260k before next weds.. In the end, it's the same amount of XP I expected to get all along. So IMO, no harm no foul. 260k? I think it would work out to be ~75k.... the SP cap will have been reduced along with the 3x SP

Kekklian Noobatronic immobile infantry 1	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:11:00 - [11] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: Meh.. Grinded out 5-600k yesterday.. If the SP cap reset like forum posts are saying, I'll be able to get the other 260k before next weds.. In the end, it's the same amount of XP I expected to get all along. So IMO, no harm no foul. 260k? I think it would work out to be ~75k.... the SP cap will have been reduced along with the 3x SP Some people who capped out are saying they're getting SP again. As I said, let's hope the cap was completely reset. :P
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:11:00 - [12] - Quote Halador Osiris wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event. I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!? So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something. Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other. wtf? So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP. This was bad for the community and bad for the game. Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through? You make me sad to be an American. Allow me to explain some things to you. CCP changes things during downtime, which is at like 11 AM. By the way, it's like 11 AM their time, because CCP operates on UTC/GMT. This means that if you live in the US, changes will occur around 5 AM on the day they say they will. If CCP says the event runs "through" Thursday, what they mean is through until downtime on Thursday. Now HTFU and get used to it. That's quite a low threshold to be embarrassed of of your heritage. They're a company in Iceland. 99.999999% of their player base is not in Iceland. When they failed to include those 3 letters that would have made all this clear "...time...GMT" it left the event ambiguous. Thinking about it, why would they give their players only 2 days to max out 4 WEEKS worth of SP? That made no sense and without further clarification this lead to the logical conclusion that if GMT --> implies 4 weeks SP in 2 days --> Insane --> Improbably. if not GMT --> implies 2 days to get 3 weeks SP, then 6 days to get 7 days worth --> not insane --> more probably. Hence neckbeards lose faith in America because one person they assume to be American feels this was a nutty way to run an event.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:13:00 - [13] - Quote Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: Meh.. Grinded out 5-600k yesterday.. If the SP cap reset like forum posts are saying, I'll be able to get the other 260k before next weds.. In the end, it's the same amount of XP I expected to get all along. So IMO, no harm no foul. 260k? I think it would work out to be ~75k.... the SP cap will have been reduced along with the 3x SP Some people who capped out are saying they're getting SP again. As I said, let's hope the cap was completely reset. :P Today is your one day to get a whole weeks worth of SP at normal rate, apparently. As I explained, this is one of the factors that made me scratch my head and conclude 3x SP must have been meant to end after Thursday
Rynx Sinfar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 540	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:14:00 - [14] - Quote I'm not so much angry about it occuring as I am confused as to WHY it had to occur. It started on Wednesday, why not end it then? Was there some reason? Someone it was meant to benefit that you were grateful to? Was it to get boosters burning a bit longer? I'm half convinced they are testing AFK detection methods. The Endurance Event was asking for AFKers. The 3x SP event was asking for it even harder. The 1 day extra of it actually got a mini freaking event going of AFKers. Were they looking to increase the test pool for when the released their AFK preventatives?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2733	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:18:00 - [15] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: I'm chill. Word.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Universal Allies Inc. 4	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:20:00 - [16] - Quote Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: 2100 Angels wrote: Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: Meh.. Grinded out 5-600k yesterday.. If the SP cap reset like forum posts are saying, I'll be able to get the other 260k before next weds.. In the end, it's the same amount of XP I expected to get all along. So IMO, no harm no foul. 260k? I think it would work out to be ~75k.... the SP cap will have been reduced along with the 3x SP Some people who capped out are saying they're getting SP again. As I said, let's hope the cap was completely reset. :P That would be awful, so if you grinded halfway yesterday you would get around 3x by the end of the week, and those who capped out would get 4x wtf.
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 97	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:52:00 - [17] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I missed a ton of SP too, **** happens bro. It's a game, relax; have fun with it. I'm chill. I'm saying it was an asinine idea to give players literally 48 straight hours to gain 4 weeks worth of SP. Or alternatively, if they miss that small opportunity they lose a relative month of SP compared to other players. That's 4 weeks in two days! And any reasonable person would have thought this couldn't be the case hence it must end after Thursday's reset and begin the regular weekly cycle. I truly think this was a mistake or oversight. I think it was only one day. I nearly missed it (stupid life and obligations) but I pulled a all nighter and got around 600k
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 81	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:53:00 - [18] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event. I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!? So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something. Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other. wtf? So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP. This was bad for the community and bad for the game. Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through? MMO's aren't supposed to be fair buddy.
Specter RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 64	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:54:00 - [19] - Quote At least I got 300k before the end of the event. (Hue)
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 15:58:00 - [20] - Quote Protoman Is God wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event. I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!? So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something. Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other. wtf? So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP. This was bad for the community and bad for the game. Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through? MMO's aren't supposed to be fair buddy. Awesome, by your logic then it's perfectly acceptable if the dev's wanted to give me 200 million SP for nothing. Nobody else though. It's fine because "mmo's arn't fair". Sorry buddy but if you can't raise the level of intellectual discussion here beyond that, then why do you bother speaking?

Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 154	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:04:00 - [21] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event. I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!? So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something. Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other. wtf? So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP. This was bad for the community and bad for the game. Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through? You haven-¦t "lost" anything, you missed an opportunity. Completely different things. Yes, it was a no lifer event. I went to the beach yesterday and didn-¦t get the full possibility of SP. Choices choices choices. It was a good move. Got their server stress tested.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:15:00 - [22] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Aside from the fact that I lost untold SP from the fact that CCP failed to communicate effectively the duration of this event. I find it also irritating that this means CCP gave players one single day to reach full SP cap, TWICE IN A ROW!? So... If someone was either busy early in the week (Or planned around getting 3x SP through Thursday like they told us) that person is potentially screwed out of like 1.2 million SP or something. Which is another reason most of us thought the event would run "Through" Thursday. Because it would be ludicrous to have two consecutive days of expecting players to be able to reach two week's worth of SP cap. One of which being 3x as high as the other. wtf? So who does this event benefit. The neck beard elite who have no jobs, no finals, no commitments on a Tuesday and Wednesday? Leaving other customers behind in the dust, This was NOT a good move CCP. This was bad for the community and bad for the game. Honestly just tell me, did you really think this through? You haven-¦t "lost" anything, you missed an opportunity. Completely different things. Yes, it was a no lifer event. I went to the beach yesterday and didn-¦t get the full possibility of SP. Choices choices choices. It was a good move. Got their server stress tested. So a penny saved isn't a penny earned? Lost is lost, the net result is the same so don't play semantics. BTW I'm not saying they should fix this event, or toss anyone they screwed a bone. I'm just hoping to demonstrate that with a few extra digits or an extra sentence all things like this can be completely avoided. So why not? When dates and timing are important people generally make them very clear. The military does not say 'we're going to attack at 12:00 next Friday' Do they mean this friday coming, or the one after that? AM or PM? A company serving to international customers with a timed event could at least take the extra three seconds to say "BTW, this is GMT, so don't be confused by the fact that this will result in a weird additional schedule. Like having one day to reach weekly SP cap. Then second day to reach weekly SP cap. IMO they needed to either be more concise OR normalize their downtime/reset scheduled to take into account this ill-synchronized event they laid over-top of it.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organization 2163	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:27:00 - [23] - Quote Dude. It's just a game. I don't care if you're mad. Besides, CCP will never be able to make everyone happy because there will always be that one person in the crowd who is pissed off at what CCP does or doesn't do. Besides, one the CPM has been established with a proper election system for the players, you will have a proper voice in the matter. But we have bigger things to concern ourselves with.
Hana-Maru Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 42	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:29:00 - [24] - Quote Thank you for recognizing the magnificence of my neck beard.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:33:00 - [25] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dude. It's just a game. I don't care if you're mad. Besides, CCP will never be able to make everyone happy because there will always be that one person in the crowd who is pissed off at what CCP does or doesn't do. Besides, once the CPM has been established with a proper election system for the players, you will have a proper voice in the matter. But we have bigger things to concern ourselves with. I see you've failed to comprehend the issue in this post. It has nothing to do with anyone being mad or not, nor making everybody 'happy'. It also is irrelevant if there are bigger things to concern oneself with. This is a small simple problem to fix, which can prevent future problems. That's like saying I shouldn't wipe my @%^ today because some kid I don't know is going to starve today. Or I shouldn't brush my teeth because there's no objective purpose to life. So it does not matter if there are bigger fish to fry. It's still worthwhile to spend an extra second being clear with important time-based statements.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:35:00 - [26] - Quote double post win
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:35:00 - [27] - Quote Hana-Maru wrote: Thank you for recognizing the magnificence of my neck beard. It's so smooth. Do you use a comb? Conditioner? May I caress it?
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organization 2163	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:36:00 - [28] - Quote @Nguruthos IX Dude, it's just a game. Let it go.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 256	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:41:00 - [29] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: @Nguruthos IX Dude, it's just a game. Let it go. Who's letting not letting what go?
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 154	Posted - 2013.05.02 16:47:00 - [30] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: So a penny saved isn't a penny earned? Lost is lost, the net result is the same so don't play semantics. BTW I'm not saying they should fix this event, or toss anyone they screwed a bone. I'm just hoping to demonstrate that with a few extra digits or an extra sentence all things like this can be completely avoided. So why not? When dates and timing are important people generally make them very clear. The military does not say 'we're going to attack at 12:00 next Friday' Do they mean this friday coming, or the one after that? AM or PM? A company serving to international customers with a timed event could at least take the extra three seconds to say "BTW, this is GMT, so don't be confused by the fact that this will result in a weird additional schedule. Like having one day to reach weekly SP cap. Then second day to reach weekly SP cap. IMO they needed to either be more concise OR normalize their downtime/reset scheduled to take into account this ill-synchronized event they laid over-top of it. Ohhhh, is see. You-¦re one of those at the Music Industry that consider that a Download = Loss/Theft Like when a costumer goes to your store, and "Consumes" the music at the elevator, doesn-¦t buy anything, and istead of making a "Profit" you are at a "Loss". Sure sure, that-¦s it. Ask for reinbursment from CCP, you clearly started today with less-than-you-could-have-earned-if-you-had-played-yesterday, and this is probably a server bug. All times are GMT. In my country for example, we don-¦t use am or pm, we use 24h. And the reference will always be downtime. How am i going to say "Friday" with so many timming zones? - You haven-¦t lost anything - GMT - Downtime



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