Especially since the 14th is release day, so that means if something fucks up, you **** up release day.

Especially since the 14th is release day, so that means if something fucks up, you **** up release day.

Kitty sure is active today.

Without the planning time, corp leaderships would get severely burnt out trying to get PC, new setup tactics, donation isk from refunds, right timezone district picks etc done in 1 day.

The best way to do it is "work on suits and setups, get refund, have a look at PC sandbox for week, then go to start PC".
As for smoothness on release day, not that crucial. CCP caters for a long term audience with the sandbox politics and stuff. The important part is making the sandbox work and making the players generate endless content like in EVE. That takes a good long time.

CCP is not looking for a series game; there should never be a Dust2. Ccp is trying to do what counter-strike did with its lifespan. The difference is people will play dust for the sandbox and CS for the competitive play.

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The new suits, skills, interfaces and graphical and sound improvements on the 6th.

New guns, maps, and domination on the 14th.

what if on may 14th pc does come in and it is unfinished and broken how would you feel about that then? clam down cat merc geesh

The pubcrawlers left him while he was taking a dump, now he has no one to drink with cause he's a whiny nerd.

What?
That's my concern.
Why split it up so we don't have the ability to test it before release?

we are testing pc out for like 8 dyas when it comes out on may 6 along with everything else they are adding wich we have no clue is becuase we havent seen patchnotes yet which im looking forward to read

No.
We don't get to test that on May 6th.
That's the problem, they're splitting it up in two parts for no reason what so ever, and my fear is that it will be broken and because they put it out on release day, release day will be a failure.

No.
We don't get to test that on May 6th.
That's the problem, they're splitting it up in two parts for no reason what so ever, and my fear is that it will be broken and because they put it out on release day, release day will be a failure.

dude yes planetary conquest comes out on may 6 along with other few things , may 14th we dont know what is coming so just chill we are testing pc on may 6 unless you are confused about the uprising build...

Dude, it was confirmed by a dev.
We know exactly what's coming on may 14th, that includes the new weapons.

Dude, it was confirmed by a dev.
We know exactly what's coming on may 14th, that includes the new weapons.

Pc is on neither of those lists...

But the 14th makes more sense, I guess.

Dude so what you are thinking about it too much you act like you wont get to test it out ever , you act like the devs wont fix those problems there may be with the stuff that is coming on may 14 , are you forgetting that?

Domination = PC

Domination = Team based King of the hill

Domination = Team based King of the hill

Still.

No, you don't understand.

It's another "instant battle" mode, not PC, I'm not sure what gave you that idea.

Because they didn't mention PC, so I assumed it is.
But still, I doubt they will open up PC before everything is available.

My problem is that they go on FULL RELEASE before they test it en mass.
They have a perfect opportunity to give it FULLY on May 6th, let us test it, and then do whatever you want once you know its working right.
I just want to know the logic behind NOT doing that.

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Well, what kind "testing" does PC even need? PC is just another game mode, except the stakes are higher, it's biggest impact will be on the economy, and it'll take far more than a week to see what kind of impact it actually makes. You're thinking too hard about this.

So we get our skills reset on the 6th, but we won't be able to play with the new guns until the 14th?
Basically then we'll have to reinvest in some core skills & whatever suit we fancy, but resist the urge to use a large chunk of SP until the new guns are out over a week later?

You like to taunt & test our will power, don't ya?!?

so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game.

This is really pointless :S
I would understand if May 6th is everything except PC, and then on May 14th after we got used to the game PC comes in.
Why split up weapons and such along with PC?
Its all ready, what's the point of doing it in two stages.
Especially since the 14th is release day, so that means if something fucks up, you release day.

They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to.

They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to.

You're missing the point.
They don't need to, but its the most logical way to do it.
They have the weapons ready, people can play it at Fanfest, why wait another 8 days after 6th of May?

No, these weapons NEED to be tested before the full release, not doing so is a stupid oversight by developers, they're going to end up making something way too OP/UP, calling it now

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What stops them from releasing some OP weapon 5 years from now? Nothing. It will get released, and people will complain, then it shall get fixed. Get used to the fact that you won't be able to test out every weapon before it's released, because you wont.

It happens to other games involving DLC all the time.

First impression sir.
14th of May is release day.
The game isn't releasing multiple times and opening the flood gates to reviews does it?

What stops them from releasing some OP weapon 5 years from now? Nothing. It will get released, and people will complain, then it shall get fixed. Get used to the fact that you won't be able to test out every weapon before it's released, because you wont.

It happens to other games involving DLC/New Content all the time.

...Milita Noobs vs Protobears, the individual balance of weapons will mean squat to them.

there is no logical reason to not test the build before release.

The least amount of things that can go wrong the better.
You are defending CCP for the sake of defending them, there is no logical reason to not test the build before release.

getting DLC and getting a brand new game just released is a little bit different. there is NO reason we shouldn't be testing these weapons out before release.

What makes you think it hasn't been tested?

I agree, but clearly CCP has to have some reason for this.

Cat Merc, why don't you ask Jenza or Iron Wolf, you are in their corp right?

Okay, here's the deal as I understand it:


(I could be wrong here, but this is what I have heard from fanfest)


Uprising is coming out on may 6th. This should include everything from the new terrain, weapons, PC, domination mode, etc.

On may 14th, there will be an 'event' to mark the launch, called the "Templar Event." CCP announced this in a rountable that wasn't on the stream, and I don't want to spoil it before they make an official devpost. But with this event, there will be a few new gorgeous suit and weapon variants being made available, as well as (I /think/) an event specific map setting.


Like I said. I could be wrong here, but this is how I understand it. Wait for the devpost on the templar event, because it's completely bad-ass.

dude yes planetary conquest comes out on may 6 along with other few things , may 14th we dont know what is coming so just chill we are testing pc on may 6 unless you are confused about the uprising build...

Weren't the Amarr Templar suits n weapons n uplink an exclusive for the Collectors Edition box set ?

Edited: or maybe that's the BPOs, they could give some BPCs I guess.

Are they confirmed to be "exclusive" in the collector's edition?

And is it confirmed that they're the only new suit variants that will be coming?

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I don't even fully understand what exactly about it makes 5.14 the "release" other than for ceremonial purposes. Not like anyone couldn't play the game for months now anyways with everything carrying over, and Uprising hitting early. Though I'd sort of like it if they released a retail disc version, perhaps make it $40 and give us some cool goodies and AUR. Though that might be confusing for people who don't know you can play it for free.

Also those Templar Amarr blueprints in the EVE Collector's Edition doesn't make much sense. Why give a code for a seperate game? I'd guess most who get it don't play Dust, and many who want it don't play EVE. Oh yes, I expect a fair amount of ebay selling and give-a-ways coming up. Hopefully there are other ways to get it.

You know, guys, when I started to read this thread it brought a little smile on my face. The reason it brought a smile on my face is because I was just explaining this very thing to the dudes some moments ago, man. And the thing is, it's perfectly natural to wonder and be a little confused on the decisions CCP has taken in terms of rolling out this expansion. Now, guys, I apologise for not being able to give you the full "Ric Barlom take" on this issue as it would not be viable to write down the whole thing on this forum. Nevertheless I'm going to give you guys a quick rundown on the main points from my point of view.

The main issue here is that we have a hard time understanding CCP's logic on this whole thing. Well let me tell you guys something about logic: Logic only works when we are fully aware of the circumstances and all the different factors involved in the equation. So before we can understand the logic we have to understand the situations which CCP is operating under. Now I believe the biggest misunderstand there is, is the fact that an IT project and a game project is not your typical "Daddy wants you you to mow the lawn, you go mow the lawn, daddy gives you a couple of bucks and you go buy yourself an ice-cream sandwich" type a project guys. No, no, no. Dust 514 is not only a huge game, but a huge IT undertaking at the same time. Without going into too much nitty gritty details, suffice to say that there are so many different systems, subsystems and components with moving parts in a creation of your typical Dust expansion that it makes it more complicated than an average teen age relationship.

The bottom line is, guys, that a solution that might seem like the most illogical, unintuitive way to do things for an outsider, might actually be the most elegant solution for an insider. The frustration here is that CCP cannot provide you guys with a satisfactory answer about their logic without teaching you guys the whole system inside and out, with a couple of lessons on IT projects, Game development and project management as supplemental material. I hope that helps. Peace out!