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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
245
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:48:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Because they didn't mention PC, so I assumed it is. But still, I doubt they will open up PC before everything is available.
Well, what kind "testing" does PC even need? PC is just another game mode, except the stakes are higher, it's biggest impact will be on the economy, and it'll take far more than a week to see what kind of impact it actually makes. You're thinking too hard about this. I'm pretty damm sure that the EVE players here will find some new and exciting way to completely break the first iteration in some completely unforeseeable way - so, basically, business as usual. |
Bucktooth Badger
Buck's Intergalactic Pawn Shop
77
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:48:00 -
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So we get our skills reset on the 6th, but we won't be able to play with the new guns until the 14th? Basically then we'll have to reinvest in some core skills & whatever suit we fancy, but resist the urge to use a large chunk of SP until the new guns are out over a week later?
You like to taunt & test our will power, don't ya?!? |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:53:00 -
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Bucktooth Badger wrote:So we get our skills reset on the 6th, but we won't be able to play with the new guns until the 14th? Basically then we'll have to reinvest in some core skills & whatever suit we fancy, but resist the urge to use a large chunk of SP until the new guns are out over a week later? You like to taunt & test our will power, don't ya?!?
Pretty much this. I was looking forward to blowing up tanks with my Plasma Cannon, but I guess that will have to wait another 2 weeks. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
198
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:56:00 -
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so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
997
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:00:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
47
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:This is really pointless :S I would understand if May 6th is everything except PC, and then on May 14th after we got used to the game PC comes in. Why split up weapons and such along with PC? Its all ready, what's the point of doing it in two stages. Especially since the 14th is release day, so that means if something fucks up, you release day. Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Confirmed with CCP Jian
The new suits, skills, interfaces and graphical and sound improvements on the 6th.
New guns, maps, and domination on the 14th.
This should give you guys time to get used to the new suits. If next build will have some bug after 6th, we will have time to hotfit it before release. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2701
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:01:00 -
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"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved."
- Sun Tzu |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
663
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:02:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. You're missing the point. They don't need to, but its the most logical way to do it. They have the weapons ready, people can play it at Fanfest, why wait another 8 days after 6th of May? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
198
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:04:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. No, these weapons NEED to be tested before the full release, not doing so is a stupid oversight by developers, they're going to end up making something way too OP/UP, calling it now |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
997
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. You're missing the point. They don't need to, but its the most logical way to do it. They have the weapons ready, people can play it at Fanfest, why wait another 8 days after 6th of May? IDK, maybe they want us to see what changes they made to the weapons we currently have first. |
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Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1254
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:07:00 -
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Don't you guys understand that they probably got feedback at fan fest about the split things, and the delay will allow them to make changes? Fanfest was a massive beta test (beta within a beta) to test things out, and get feedback. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
998
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:08:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. No, these weapons NEED to be tested before the full release, not doing so is a stupid oversight by developers, they're going to end up making something way too OP/UP, calling it now What stops them from releasing some OP weapon 5 years from now? Nothing. It will get released, and people will complain, then it shall get fixed. Get used to the fact that you won't be able to test out every weapon before it's released, because you wont.
It happens to other games involving DLC/New Content all the time. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
663
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:11:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:Can you please avoid the usage of profanity language in your post? Please read 7 of the forum rules: Quote:7. Use of profanity is prohibited. The use of profanity is prohibited on the DUST 514 forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter. Thank you for the cooperation. Hercules, there was barely any profanity, just the average thing you see on the forums. Don't be more sensitive just because its negative feedback. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
663
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:11:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. No, these weapons NEED to be tested before the full release, not doing so is a stupid oversight by developers, they're going to end up making something way too OP/UP, calling it now What stops them from releasing some OP weapon 5 years from now? Nothing. It will get released, and people will complain, then it shall get fixed. Get used to the fact that you won't be able to test out every weapon before it's released, because you wont. It happens to other games involving DLC all the time. First impression sir. 14th of May is release day. The game isn't releasing multiple times and opening the flood gates to reviews does it? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
998
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. No, these weapons NEED to be tested before the full release, not doing so is a stupid oversight by developers, they're going to end up making something way too OP/UP, calling it now What stops them from releasing some OP weapon 5 years from now? Nothing. It will get released, and people will complain, then it shall get fixed. Get used to the fact that you won't be able to test out every weapon before it's released, because you wont. It happens to other games involving DLC all the time. First impression sir. 14th of May is release day. The game isn't releasing multiple times and opening the flood gates to reviews does it? ... Militia Noobs vs Protobears, the individual balance of weapons will mean squat to them. First impressions don't count here, because only people who have already played will know the difference. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
198
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:15:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:so we're going to have to do guesswork and save SP to the 15th for new weapons? that's unacceptable CCP, these new guns need to be put in for testing and balancing purposes before you fully release a buggy and unbalanced game. They will be releasing new weapons and stuff over the next 10 years, they don't need to let us test anything. It would be nice if they let us, but they don't need to. No, these weapons NEED to be tested before the full release, not doing so is a stupid oversight by developers, they're going to end up making something way too OP/UP, calling it now What stops them from releasing some OP weapon 5 years from now? Nothing. It will get released, and people will complain, then it shall get fixed. Get used to the fact that you won't be able to test out every weapon before it's released, because you wont. It happens to other games involving DLC/New Content all the time. getting DLC and getting a brand new game just released is a little bit different. there is NO reason we shouldn't be testing these weapons out before release. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
663
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:15:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote: ...Milita Noobs vs Protobears, the individual balance of weapons will mean squat to them.
The least amount of things that can go wrong the better. You are defending CCP for the sake of defending them, there is no logical reason to not test the build before release. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2701
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:there is no logical reason to not test the build before release.
What makes you think it hasn't been tested? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
998
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:21:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: The least amount of things that can go wrong the better. You are defending CCP for the sake of defending them, there is no logical reason to not test the build before release.
King Kobrah wrote: getting DLC and getting a brand new game just released is a little bit different. there is NO reason we shouldn't be testing these weapons out before release.
I agree, but clearly CCP has to have some reason for this.
Cat Merc, why don't you ask Jenza or Iron Wolf, you are in their corp right? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
998
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Cat Merc wrote:there is no logical reason to not test the build before release. What makes you think it hasn't been tested? Well obviously it has, just not by us.
Then again, considering all the HMGs are OP threads, I don't really trust our judgement anymore. |
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Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
68
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:23:00 -
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the toys and glamer might add more to the game, but more game modes is what I was realy wating for.
Hopefully it is due to it not being ready yet, I hardly need a week to 'get ready' with new skills, I have had what 4 months, when was game made no more wipe beta, and people who have played allot of closed beta a year or so. Even if people need to get ready, get ready by fighting wars over planets, how else would one get ready? Pub matches realy get boring after a while, I can keep winning those with the effort it takes to curb stomp baby's and toddlers.
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
663
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:23:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cat Merc wrote: The least amount of things that can go wrong the better. You are defending CCP for the sake of defending them, there is no logical reason to not test the build before release.
King Kobrah wrote: getting DLC and getting a brand new game just released is a little bit different. there is NO reason we shouldn't be testing these weapons out before release.
I agree, but clearly CCP has to have some reason for this. Cat Merc, why don't you ask Jenza or Iron Wolf, you are in their corp right? Yes, but they are in FanFest and communicating with them right now is impossibru. Also, pub crawl, I will have to catch them sober. |
Victin Ashis
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2013.04.28 05:13:00 -
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The update on the 6th is the actual client patch so that's the big one. They probably delayed the weapons and extra maps for the 14th so they would have a little extra time for tweaks based on feedback from fanfest or some final polish. They essentally lost a whole week due to fanfest and may just need the extra time. Also they may just want to test their redesigned content streaming setup to make sure it is working correctly. Remeber until the 14th we're still in beta. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
670
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Posted - 2013.04.28 10:43:00 -
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I got an answer from jenza aranda. Basically, what they put on the 14th is buggy, they need a week to fix it. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
867
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:39:00 -
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Okay, here's the deal as I understand it:
(I could be wrong here, but this is what I have heard from fanfest)
Uprising is coming out on may 6th. This should include everything from the new terrain, weapons, PC, domination mode, etc.
On may 14th, there will be an 'event' to mark the launch, called the "Templar Event." CCP announced this in a rountable that wasn't on the stream, and I don't want to spoil it before they make an official devpost. But with this event, there will be a few new gorgeous suit and weapon variants being made available, as well as (I /think/) an event specific map setting.
Like I said. I could be wrong here, but this is how I understand it. Wait for the devpost on the templar event, because it's completely bad-ass. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
241
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:47:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Okay, here's the deal as I understand it:
(I could be wrong here, but this is what I have heard from fanfest)
Uprising is coming out on may 6th. This should include everything from the new terrain, weapons, PC, domination mode, etc.
On may 14th, there will be an 'event' to mark the launch, called the "Templar Event." CCP announced this in a rountable that wasn't on the stream, and I don't want to spoil it before they make an official devpost. But with this event, there will be a few new gorgeous suit and weapon variants being made available, as well as (I /think/) an event specific map setting.
Like I said. I could be wrong here, but this is how I understand it. Wait for the devpost on the templar event, because it's completely bad-ass. Weren't the Amarr Templar suits n weapons n uplink an exclusive for the Collectors Edition box set ? |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
809
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:11:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote:what if on may 14th pc does come in and it is unfinished and broken how would you feel about that then? clam down cat merc geesh What? That's my concern. Why split it up so we don't have the ability to test it before release? we are testing pc out for like 8 dyas when it comes out on may 6 along with everything else they are adding wich we have no clue is becuase we havent seen patchnotes yet which im looking forward to read No. We don't get to test that on May 6th. That's the problem, they're splitting it up in two parts for no reason what so ever, and my fear is that it will be broken and because they put it out on release day, release day will be a failure. dude yes planetary conquest comes out on may 6 along with other few things , may 14th we dont know what is coming so just chill we are testing pc on may 6 unless you are confused about the uprising build... Watch the fanfest recordings again dude, PC is coming may 14. I think it was the 'ccp presents' one |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2633
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:58:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Okay, here's the deal as I understand it:
(I could be wrong here, but this is what I have heard from fanfest)
Uprising is coming out on may 6th. This should include everything from the new terrain, weapons, PC, domination mode, etc.
On may 14th, there will be an 'event' to mark the launch, called the "Templar Event." CCP announced this in a rountable that wasn't on the stream, and I don't want to spoil it before they make an official devpost. But with this event, there will be a few new gorgeous suit and weapon variants being made available, as well as (I /think/) an event specific map setting.
Like I said. I could be wrong here, but this is how I understand it. Wait for the devpost on the templar event, because it's completely bad-ass. Weren't the Amarr Templar suits n weapons n uplink an exclusive for the Collectors Edition box set ? Edited: or maybe that's the BPOs, they could give some BPCs I guess. Are they confirmed to be "exclusive" in the collector's edition?
And is it confirmed that they're the only new suit variants that will be coming? |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
241
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:07:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Okay, here's the deal as I understand it:
(I could be wrong here, but this is what I have heard from fanfest)
Uprising is coming out on may 6th. This should include everything from the new terrain, weapons, PC, domination mode, etc.
On may 14th, there will be an 'event' to mark the launch, called the "Templar Event." CCP announced this in a rountable that wasn't on the stream, and I don't want to spoil it before they make an official devpost. But with this event, there will be a few new gorgeous suit and weapon variants being made available, as well as (I /think/) an event specific map setting.
Like I said. I could be wrong here, but this is how I understand it. Wait for the devpost on the templar event, because it's completely bad-ass. Weren't the Amarr Templar suits n weapons n uplink an exclusive for the Collectors Edition box set ? Edited: or maybe that's the BPOs, they could give some BPCs I guess. Are they confirmed to be "exclusive" in the collector's edition? And is it confirmed that they're the only new suit variants that will be coming? Yeah I'm not sure, that's why I put the edit in ... was just the way they were promoting it, it seemed like they were an exclusive item but I'd have to watch the keynote again to see what they said.
As I edited above, they may be exclusive in that they're BPOs ... but it would be a shame to be getting 'exclusive' BPOs of an item in September of something that was given out as BPCs just for logging in to an event (most likely)
Have to see what this Templar event turns out to be, we're only speculating. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
29
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:14:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Especially since the 14th is release day, so that means if something fucks up, you **** up release day. Sometimes you just have to live on the edge.
Living Like Larry!
Quote from my childhood^ |
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