They ignore half the game, don't feel special. They keep turning every class up on its head because they don't know what they want to do with the game. That is what happens when someone makes a FPS and has no experience with it.

As for keeping up with your friends with movement, do you really expect the fat kid to keep up with the fit kids?

Has anyone even complained about the HMG?

Close yes, medium, no. If there's no sharpshooter, and the range of the HMG is where it starts at with no SS.

There would be no heavies then. We're only resigned to camping an objective? lol...no WP, no ISK. A heavy's only job is to kill, and with no kills to be had unless camping, they will disappear.

Spray and pray? I hope you use the heavy class and use that "tactic" against a good heavy, and see where that gets you. Good heavies have good aim.

My point in all this, is if there's no sharpshooter, there has to be a skill to reduce bullet spread. Even though the HMG has a higher DPS than most weapons, guess what, IT MISSES ALLOT OF HITS DUE TO BULLET SPREAD.

People that actually use the class will know this. They will also know that without SS, there is no medium range. I said I'll wait till May 6th to see what they have to offer, till then I only speculate.

My speculation leads me to believe that heavies will get so little kills, they would drop the class, and convert to the only class that matters in this game, the Assault class.

I'm hoping CCP gives the HMG a good enough range.

Sota Pop and i were discussing the changes to the skills next build and looked down at it for our belovid heavy class. We found sharpshooter no longer giving ranged bonuses cripples the HMG into a bigger SMG for short ranged engagements only. The HMG did benefit very well from the range bonus with how bullet falloff works (bullet damage over distance). Also, there will be no passive skills to increase weapon damage. The HMG is a spam cannon and relies on the buffs to make each shot hit hard, wich it wont anymore. So in conclusion, the HMG double wont do damage or even reach at distance, and wont chew through suits nearly as well. Between assult suit strafing and their 450+ most heavys are soloed by assult players at point blank. That is were a heavy is best and its happening now with the skills giving the HMG the bonuses it needs! Its still not working! Of course heavys generally get out gunned at mid to long range but that jus adds to the promblem. What is left for a heavy when these skills are taken away? Heavys will need B series or protosuits for pubs. The heavy will be 3 times as expensive to die 3 times quicker. If they moderate the prices on heavy gear wel be twice as expensive and still out DPS'ed, out ranged, out manuvered, and left to with only our butthurt because we have no more money to buy our gear nor SP sence heavy is THE most SP intensive class.

To top it all off, much like the swarm launcher, the plasma cannon is going to be a light weapon for all classes to use and much like the forge gun, its going to be a hybrid weapon (effective against sheilds and armor) with dumbfire capabiltys. Unlike the forge gun it will be dirt cheap because it is NOT heavy exclusive gear and thus will be used in place of forge guns. So the hmg sucks and heavys arnt needed for desinated AV any longer.

What im saying is, there is no reason to play heavy. Ifyou want lots of HP stack 4 complex sheild mods on an assult suit and skill up sheild controle to lv 5. over 500 sheilds, MORE than most heavys. Stack 2 or 3 complex armor extenders and you will have close or over 1100 effective HP and still be more mobile than a heavy. Your AR will outrange and out DPS them too. You also have equipment slots for 1/2 to 1/3 the price of the equvilant heavy suit. Also spent less SP on your superior class and fit. There is no reason for anyone to play heavy come uprising.

*There is no insentive to play heavy*

Close - medium = between close and medium, not from close to medium.
And I didn't say spray and pray, I said spary.
This weapon has a pretty big cone of fire, hence its a spray weapon.
Also, who says they didn't change the weapon it self?

Enough doom saying, wait till May 6th then complain.

What's up gang! You know I've been reading this thread for about 10 minutes now guys and the way I see it, things don't look all that bad for us so I'm gonna hit you guys from another angle with some straight talk.

Let's talk about the lack of sharpshooter skills for the heavy machine gun guys. Well here's the thing dude: the sharshooter skill, as we know it, will be the first thing that goes extinct when Uprising hits us! What I mean with that guys is that no matter which is your weapon of choice, you won't be increasing your range anytime soon guys. I don't care if you're a scout like I am, a caldari assault, a heavy, let me tell you right now: you're **** out of luck when it comes to increasing your range bro.

The other things that I've heard people say is that heavy is slow, heavy is only good at close quarters, a heavy cannot keep up with war points and kills. Well if you know anything about me guys you know exactly what I'm about to say man and here's how i'm gonna lay it down for you: Perhaps SOME of you guys have picked the wrong suit for your play style? "Oh but Ric CCP has promised me a sandbox where I can create my own super soldier!"
Well ****.... I'm gonna suggest you guys go out there, put your thinking cap on and figure out the goal you wanna reach and pick the right tool for that!

I mean when I wanna make a baby I'm not gonna use a condom!

you must be new around here

So the hmg sucks and heavys arnt needed for desinated AV any longer.

Since when did heavies actually spec into AV? 99% of them are anti-infantry, most AV on the field is from assault players who's suits weren't designed for it. The only AV I see from heavies is when they are forge sniping infantry players, and there also happens to be a vehicle on the enemy team that the forge sniper will temporarily shift focus on (maybe).

Heavies and AV... LOL. Stats probably show scouts doing more AV than you guys.

Bitter? Yes. Tired of playing ambush and going up against 1-3 tanks on the enemy team, and no heavy on our team does a thing about it. So I end up having to waste the entire match hunting these tanks down, getting meaningless deaths from the tanks and other infantry players (since I am defenseless with only a crap sidearm and very little health), losing ISK, and 90% of the time never get a single kill. End of the match I get extremely poor ISK, SP and a nice dent on my KDR. All because I had to take up the slack of heavies who weren't doing what their suits were designed to do, as they would rather farm infantry with their precious HMG.

Sorry, but I won't shed a single tear for heavies in Uprising who no longer have the ability to increase their range or get skill based damage buffs to the HMG. Personally I am getting tired of getting sniped from across the map by HMG's that get more accurate with increased fire, while my AR gets horribly inaccurate and kicks like an insane mule on crack that also had been kicked in the nads, several times. Not to mention all the militia forge snipers that take nearly zero SP to spec into yet can take out any suit in the game in one hit.

Sorry maple looks like its scout shotty time again :D

I will stick with the heavy

I would use nova knives over a shotgun after uprising, shotgun is only good because of SS

I would use nova knives over a shotgun after uprising, shotgun is only good because of SS

If nobody else will have Sharpshooter, then wouldn't it be an even exchange in range distance?
If everybody skills into Weaponry 5 and Sharpshooter (like they should) then we'd all be doing the same thing, just 20% farther away with 10% faster kills.

Except, it seem that AR and SMG got to keep their SS bonus. In other word, SMG and AR got buffed (again).
If this is true........

Hey AR Why U so special ??

hey warlord your a very respected and skilled heavy. whats your opinion

hey warlord your a very respected and skilled heavy. whats your opinion

I got a question will the AR and SMG have SS?