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J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2013.04.26 10:55:00 - [31] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: J-Lewis wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: I specifically asked if the suit was getting any modified slot count and Iron Wolf did not answer. That means the dev did not answer because he dident want to give bad news to the heavys. If they were making the suit better than the devs would have answered cuz that would make the players happy. He dident asnwer so its nothing positive That's some really heavy duty tinfoil you're wearing. Shame it's all aluminium and not actual tin. Call it what you like. There is ZERO hope for the heavy and ive laid the proof there for you. Argue about the facts, the "CCP rebalencing the heavy suit" but thats how their doing it^^^ you say im wearing foil. I say im being realistic Yep, price normalizing and damage nerfs are totally linked and relevant to slot layouts and fitting resources. Unquestionably, I'm in awe of your supernatural detective skills. Obviously you can read minds and fetch facts from the ether. I'll reserve judgement 'till I get my hands on the build thanks.
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 168	Posted - 2013.04.26 10:59:00 - [32] - Quote Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist ****** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is
ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs General Tso's Alliance 75	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:01:00 - [33] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist ****** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is I see you're ignoring the fact that hundreds of tweaks are inbound
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 493	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:04:00 - [34] - Quote CCP hates the heavy, so you guys might as well just switch to a medium frame suit like they want you to do.
Higgs flagrantfool 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:05:00 - [35] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Range isn't getting nerfed. Heavys should have all the range they do now, when the new HMG sharpshooter is skilled properly. The sharpshooter change has nothing to do with reducing the range of any weapon. It is simply swapping the current function of sharpshooter (bullet flight time increase) for a dispersion decrease given a max posible range. Functionally, there should be very very little difference between how the skill works now and how it will work post uprising. Its not about weapons having reduced range, its about not being able to increase it. HMGS lack the effective range past point blank. its pretty bad. The sharpshooter diffrence in better accuracy wont matter when your PROTO 17.6 damage per shot is reduced to 8 damage per shot because the enemy is 40 meters away. No matter how many hits you score, the far too comon AR or laser rifle will mess your day up 6 ways to Caldari Prime before you drop their sheilds half way. EDIT:Sorry i was mistaken, lance pointed out that only the AR and SMG are going to benifit from the increased accuracy of sharpshooter. So were doing no damage at mid to long range AND not hitting. keeps getting better and better... What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you bashing this assumption?
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 106	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:05:00 - [36] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist ****** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is yeah, please tell us how expensive the proto logi suit gets when you fit everything with proto modules your comparison is also flawed because logi has only 1 weapon slot and cannot fit heavy weapons. it is simple, you pay a tax to be able to fit the most powerful weapons. you do not like it? then dont use a heavy. oh and please tell me where you all buy the magic crystal balls that allow you to see what happens in the future, I would like to get one too.
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 168	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:06:00 - [37] - Quote ShwerShwerShwer wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist **** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is I see you're ignoring the fact that hundreds of tweaks are inbound nahh i have my proof posts before this. ignoring things is dumb and im very satisfied with how heavys have been and are now. Its great! But to ignore the possible tweaks and *** about what is going to happen? thats dumb. Ive done my homework check it out
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 170	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:09:00 - [38] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist ****** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is yeah, please tell us how expensive the proto logi suit gets when you fit everything with proto modules your comparison is also flawed because logi has only 1 weapon slot and cannot fit heavy weapons. it is simple, you pay a tax to be able to fit the most powerful weapons. you do not like it? then dont use a heavy. oh and please tell me where you all buy the magic crystal balls that allow you to see what happens in the future, I would like to get one too. Lol it doesent. put up the numbers like i did and see if your suit compares. the other 2 doesent
Higgs flagrantfool 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:09:00 - [39] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Range isn't getting nerfed. Heavys should have all the range they do now, when the new HMG sharpshooter is skilled properly. The sharpshooter change has nothing to do with reducing the range of any weapon. It is simply swapping the current function of sharpshooter (bullet flight time increase) for a dispersion decrease given a max posible range. Functionally, there should be very very little difference between how the skill works now and how it will work post uprising. Only the AR and SMG is getting the Sharpshooter skill, and it doesn't affect range. No other weapon is getting that skill in Uprising. Upon what are you basing this assumption. Your crystal ball I assume?
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:11:00 - [40] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: ShwerShwerShwer wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist **** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is I see you're ignoring the fact that hundreds of tweaks are inbound nahh i have my proof posts before this. ignoring things is dumb and im very satisfied with how heavys have been and are now. Its great! But to ignore the possible tweaks and *** about what is going to happen? thats dumb. Ive done my homework check it out Example is right, based on the information we have heavys are boned. I've been fearing this since the first thread Iron Wolf posted with info from SISI.

Higgs flagrantfool 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:12:00 - [41] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist ****** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is yeah, please tell us how expensive the proto logi suit gets when you fit everything with proto modules your comparison is also flawed because logi has only 1 weapon slot and cannot fit heavy weapons. it is simple, you pay a tax to be able to fit the most powerful weapons. you do not like it? then dont use a heavy. oh and please tell me where you all buy the magic crystal balls that allow you to see what happens in the future, I would like to get one too. Lol it doesent. put up the numbers like i did and see if your suit compares. the other 2 doesent Hay man don't talk to me about numbers. I'm proto scout. You really want to see who's numbers stack up better?
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 170	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:18:00 - [42] - Quote Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist ****** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is yeah, please tell us how expensive the proto logi suit gets when you fit everything with proto modules your comparison is also flawed because logi has only 1 weapon slot and cannot fit heavy weapons. it is simple, you pay a tax to be able to fit the most powerful weapons. you do not like it? then dont use a heavy. oh and please tell me where you all buy the magic crystal balls that allow you to see what happens in the future, I would like to get one too. Lol it doesent. put up the numbers like i did and see if your suit compares. the other 2 doesent Hay man don't talk to me about numbers. I'm proto scout. You really want to see who's numbers stack up better? Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes!
flesth Red Star. EoN. 6	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:19:00 - [43] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: CCP hates the heavy, so you guys might as well just switch to a medium frame suit like they want you to do. so medium frame have heavy slot ? fit in hmg/fg ? if so i might aswell use it, (all i care about it is hmg) if ccp fix the range / bullet spread for hmg i will be happy , all i want in this game is hmg , people like different things
Rusticuls ATHEIST's For XENU 30	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:21:00 - [44] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: oh and please tell me where you all buy the magic crystal balls that allow you to see what happens in the future, I would like to get one too. 317k for one suit with proto gear. So it's cheaper but I cant even fathom how much Sp it would cost for proto everything on a logi vk1 or 0 suit. Someone else can do that math.
ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs General Tso's Alliance 75	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:22:00 - [45] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: ShwerShwerShwer wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Rusticuls wrote: You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist **** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is I see you're ignoring the fact that hundreds of tweaks are inbound nahh i have my proof posts before this. ignoring things is dumb and im very satisfied with how heavys have been and are now. Its great! But to ignore the possible tweaks and *** about what is going to happen? thats dumb. Ive done my homework check it out Example is right, based on the information we have heavys are boned. I've been fearing this since the first thread Iron Wolf posted with info from SISI. What information? The only information I know that's been released on heavies is NO information.
Rusticuls ATHEIST's For XENU 30	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:24:00 - [46] - Quote All i know is the best dudes in this game run a heavy suits, So it definitely isnt underpowered.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2891	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:26:00 - [47] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: J-Lewis wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: I specifically asked if the suit was getting any modified slot count and Iron Wolf did not answer. That means the dev did not answer because he dident want to give bad news to the heavys. If they were making the suit better than the devs would have answered cuz that would make the players happy. He dident asnwer so its nothing positive That's some really heavy duty tinfoil you're wearing. Shame it's all aluminium and not actual tin. Call it what you like. There is ZERO hope for the heavy and ive laid the proof there for you. Argue about the facts, the "CCP rebalencing the heavy suit" but thats how their doing it^^^ you say im wearing foil. I say im being realistic u havent laid proof till u actually play the new build and see for urself we dont know all the skills that are there AFAIK none increase range anymore so everygun has a set range so how is only the hmg suffering? besides decreasing spread makes alot more sense than increasing range for HMG the "OP" comments all came because of Sharpshooter making the shotgun and hmg hit alot further than they should. PS: CCP can also easily change the optimal ranges for every weapon since they removing the range skill so most likely all guns will have a higher optimal range so again u dont really know or shown any proof
Higgs flagrantfool 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:29:00 - [48] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Hay man don't talk to me about numbers. I'm proto scout. You really want to see who's numbers stack up better? Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes![/quote] Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote: What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you bashing this assumption?
Higgs flagrantfool 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:30:00 - [49] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes! Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote: What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you basing this assumption?
Rusticuls ATHEIST's For XENU 31	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:30:00 - [50] - Quote I did get one up to 409k if that makes you feel better. But I did put on the Core Breach MD. Who uses that? With Viziam it's 373k.

Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 170	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:33:00 - [51] - Quote Rusticuls wrote: All i know is the best dudes in this game run a heavy suits, So it definitely isnt underpowered. LOL. this guy clearly runs a heavy suit. I run heavy and so does Sota Pop. Howdid that taste, tuff tone, two ton twenty one, Lance, chicagocubs4ever, mark burkheart and spongysquare doo are the best heavys. only chicago is on the top ten as a heavy. Mr. Zitro was Assult and tanks. Lordchaos QC is assult. Protoman runs heavy. Reflex runs scout. Mavado is logi/tank Punisher is assult Kujo is assult Soldier Uki is assult satetrooper is assult badfurry is a tank user xxwarlordxxis assult because he ditched his heavy cuz it sucks. Undeadsoldier did the same as warlord Laz uhlan is tank NightEagle Tryharder0 is assult venum is assult free beers is assult list gos onn! The Negative Feed back alliance looks down at heavys because they suck. All heavys everywere agree that heavys suck. Ssrly. heavys i dont think they suck. they sure will come the 6th
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 112	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:38:00 - [52] - Quote "I'm going to kill you, and kill you, and kill you. Oh I'm sorry. I thought you meant a heavy from a real AAA title.
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 170	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:39:00 - [53] - Quote Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Hay man don't talk to me about numbers. I'm proto scout. You really want to see who's numbers stack up better? Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes! Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote: What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you bashing this assumption? [/quote] The sharpshooter skill will no longer effect maximum range. heavys stop killing things with hmgs at 40 meters away. The very popular lazers and ARs have kill ranges far beyond those ranges. Aperantly, sharpshooter effects only SMGs and ARs. So ARs will have 125% accuracy with max sharpshooter as opposed to the normal 100%. AR users will kill heavys at mid to long range like a joke, like they currently do even when heavys have range bonuses. Theyl still kill heavys at point blank, like they do now
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 170	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:41:00 - [54] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Hay man don't talk to me about numbers. I'm proto scout. You really want to see who's numbers stack up better? Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes! Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote: What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you bashing this assumption? The sharpshooter skill will no longer effect maximum range. heavys stop killing things with hmgs at 40 meters away. The very popular lazers and ARs have kill ranges far beyond 40m. Aperantly, sharpshooter effects only SMGs and ARs. So ARs will have 125% accuracy with max sharpshooter as opposed to the normal 100%. AR users will kill heavys at mid to long range like a joke, like they currently do even when heavys have range bonuses. Theyl still kill heavys at point blank, like they do now, but harder.[/quote] basing it upon the proof ive posted earlyer from Irion Saber, the information ive gathered from reliable sources and my long closed beta to current experience as a heavy. So proof, math, quotes from devs and intelligent, well informed players, and my own veteran experience.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 186	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:43:00 - [55] - Quote I'm waiting for actual patch notes, Maple. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but It's not going to benefit me to get this worked up when we're looking at less than 1/4th of the total painted picture. If heavies ARE actually boned, well, we have a respec on the way. I've played Eve for years and I've gotten pretty good at adapting to sudden extreme changes.
Spectral Clone Vacuum Cleaner. LLC 12	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:44:00 - [56] - Quote If it is true that Weaponry does not increase damage and sharpshooter only reduces kick and or spread I think we will see a new kind of game May 6th. Longer lasting fights with closer combat range. It is going to be interesting to see how this turns out!! Finally LR has a unique niche, it could previously be outranged by AR. Heavies will still pwn in close range.
Higgs flagrantfool 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:47:00 - [57] - Quote Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes! Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote: What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you basing this assumption? This is not what I asked for. Present me with proof that the HMG will suffer from this ultra game braking nerf you are alluding to (something that I find it VERY difficult to believe will ever happen). Or STFU until uprising cometh.
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 170	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:47:00 - [58] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: If it is true that Weaponry does not increase damage and sharpshooter only reduces kick and or spread I think we will see a new kind of game May 6th. Longer lasting fights with closer combat range. It is going to be interesting to see how this turns out!! Finally LR has a unique niche, it could previously be outranged by AR. Heavies will still pwn in close range. If that is not your playstile adapt or die! adapt or die. now that/ is most intelligent statement ive read this entire post. +1
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 170	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:50:00 - [59] - Quote Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes! Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote: What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you basing this assumption? This is not what I asked for. Present me with proof that the HMG will suffer from this ultra game braking nerf you are alluding to (something that I find it VERY difficult to believe will ever happen). Or STFU until uprising cometh. I did present PROOF but you dident understand it for some reason. reread the beggining posts were irion wolf quoted the devs for answers, my math throughout the thread, and my OP. I cannot quote all of them in one post
Spectral Clone Vacuum Cleaner. LLC 12	Posted - 2013.04.26 11:50:00 - [60] - Quote Higgs flagrantfool wrote: Or STFU until uprising cometh. +1



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