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Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.26 10:32:00 -
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Range isn't getting nerfed. Heavys should have all the range they do now, when the new HMG sharpshooter is skilled properly. The sharpshooter change has nothing to do with reducing the range of any weapon. It is simply swapping the current function of sharpshooter (bullet flight time increase) for a dispersion decrease given a max posible range. Functionally, there should be very very little difference between how the skill works now and how it will work post uprising. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:05:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Range isn't getting nerfed. Heavys should have all the range they do now, when the new HMG sharpshooter is skilled properly. The sharpshooter change has nothing to do with reducing the range of any weapon. It is simply swapping the current function of sharpshooter (bullet flight time increase) for a dispersion decrease given a max posible range. Functionally, there should be very very little difference between how the skill works now and how it will work post uprising. Its not about weapons having reduced range, its about not being able to increase it. HMGS lack the effective range past point blank. its pretty bad. The sharpshooter diffrence in better accuracy wont matter when your PROTO 17.6 damage per shot is reduced to 8 damage per shot because the enemy is 40 meters away. No matter how many hits you score, the far too comon AR or laser rifle will mess your day up 6 ways to Caldari Prime before you drop their sheilds half way. EDIT:Sorry i was mistaken, lance pointed out that only the AR and SMG are going to benifit from the increased accuracy of sharpshooter. So were doing no damage at mid to long range AND not hitting. keeps getting better and better...
What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you bashing this assumption? |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:09:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Range isn't getting nerfed. Heavys should have all the range they do now, when the new HMG sharpshooter is skilled properly. The sharpshooter change has nothing to do with reducing the range of any weapon. It is simply swapping the current function of sharpshooter (bullet flight time increase) for a dispersion decrease given a max posible range. Functionally, there should be very very little difference between how the skill works now and how it will work post uprising. Only the AR and SMG is getting the Sharpshooter skill, and it doesn't affect range. No other weapon is getting that skill in Uprising.
Upon what are you basing this assumption. Your crystal ball I assume? |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
39
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:12:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Rusticuls wrote:You do know that the logi's have a bunch of equipment they have to buy and spec into right.? Less gear = Less expenses. Fact is my medium tier heavy fittings cost about the same as my medium tier logi fittings. And my logistuff probably cost the same in sp requirements. Logi does not cost the same SP requirements. you have equipment to skill into and we have forge guns and HMGs. count whatever your costs are heavys are more expensive. Also, logis can have a vk1 suit with the MOST slots in the game (a very impressive 13!) that can run faster than a SCOUT and have 1000 effective HP AND have 3 equipment slots. Yes, all in one suit! Your suit is waaaaay better than a heavys, shame on you for throwing a poor logi post on a doomsday to heavys thread. Here, watch this: Heavy VK1 slots: 3 high/ 2 low/ sidearm/ heavyslot/ grenade. Total of 8 Logi vk1 slots: 4 high/ 4 low/ 3 equipment/ 1grenade/ 1 small slot. total of 13. VK0 is the same but 4 equipment slots instead! Logi VK1 can be fastest suit in the game. Heavy is the slowist. Logi can have jus as much sheilds as more than heavy. Logi can do more damage over a greater distance than a heavy. Logi has more ways to get WP than killing. Heavy does not. Heavy VK1- 246,000 HMG proto-118,700-171,500 depending on variant Mods, sidearm, grenades. lets say another 80k. mods are easly 10k+ a peice for complex and sidearms can get to 30k+ grenades get as expensive as 18k+ 80k is reasonable Total:444,700-497500 Sooo how expensive is your logi hmmm? do i want 4 lives in the finist ****** suit in the game or a nice surya, sagaris... hmmm thats tough. really is yeah, please tell us how expensive the proto logi suit gets when you fit everything with proto modules  your comparison is also flawed because logi has only 1 weapon slot and cannot fit heavy weapons. it is simple, you pay a tax to be able to fit the most powerful weapons. you do not like it? then dont use a heavy. oh and please tell me where you all buy the magic crystal balls that allow you to see what happens in the future, I would like to get one too. Lol it doesent. put up the numbers like i did and see if your suit compares. the other 2 doesent
Hay man don't talk to me about numbers. I'm proto scout. You really want to see who's numbers stack up better? |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:29:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Hay man don't talk to me about numbers. I'm proto scout. You really want to see who's numbers stack up better?
Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes![/quote]
Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question:
Ignoble Son wrote:What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you bashing this assumption? |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:30:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes!
Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question:
Ignoble Son wrote:What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you basing this assumption? |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:47:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes! Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote:What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you basing this assumption?
This is not what I asked for. Present me with proof that the HMG will suffer from this ultra game braking nerf you are alluding to (something that I find it VERY difficult to believe will ever happen). Or STFU until uprising cometh. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
39
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:59:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Yeah i count 2 naive points, 3 math points, 1 try hard point, 4 boo whoo scouts points, and no points for no fucks given on this heavy thread. redeemable for exciting cash and prizes! Take a deep breath. Stop your bottom lip and chin from trembling and answer my question: Ignoble Son wrote:What are you complaining about? I am honestly confused here. Are you under the impression that the HMG will some how have less max posible range than it does now (i.e. max sharpshooter skill as it stands now)? Are you inferring that the HMG will somehow have the range it does now with sharpshooter unskilled? I find This extremely difficult to believe. Upon what are you basing this assumption? This is not what I asked for. Present me with proof that the HMG will suffer from this ultra game braking nerf you are alluding to (something that I find it VERY difficult to believe will ever happen). Or STFU until uprising cometh. I did present PROOF but you dident understand it for some reason. reread the beggining posts were irion wolf quoted the devs for answers, my math throughout the thread, and my OP. I cannot quote all of them in one post
Dude I have read all of the posts in this thread, and all I have seen so far is you call out doomsday visions that, apparently, you have glimsed from your crystal ball. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.26 12:11:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You have no proof Maple. Just some speculation based on a few known facts that you are choosing to buy into and get worked up over.
Set it down for now. If, after the 6th, everything really IS doom and gloom.... well, go nuts. I'll be right there with you.
But this isn't serving you right now.
This^^^ |
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