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Indy Strizer
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
70
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:07:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Indy Strizer wrote:Hello? o/ hows it going. u joining the part. \o/
No. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:08:00 -
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Indy Strizer wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Indy Strizer wrote:Hello? o/ hows it going. u joining the part. \o/ No. o well. u made it to the 10 page mark. :D |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
127
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:09:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:oh well i made my point, seems like yall have nothing left to argue about because im true. seriously why are people even asking for nerfs and buffs now anyway? everything will change once Uprising comes. later dummies Lol, what point? You do everything that every other AR elitist does:
1.Claim that everyone else's gun game is inferior to yours as a claim that the weapon is balanced. 2.Discredit and downright slander the skill required to use other weapons. 3. Argue 1 or 2 over and over again, but use a different choice of words. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:oh well i made my point, seems like yall have nothing left to argue about because im true. seriously why are people even asking for nerfs and buffs now anyway? everything will change once Uprising comes. later dummies Lol, what point? You do everything that every other AR elitist does: 1.Claim that everyone else's gun game is inferior to yours as a claim that the weapon is balanced. 2.Discredit and downright slander the skill required to use other weapons. 3. Argue 1 or 2 over and over again, but use a different choice of words. +1 see u guys tomorrow hoping a dev doesn't close the thread and ruin the fun. :). |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1225
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:15:00 -
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God-nova makes some very valid points, I'm hoping when uprising comes, ar's can finally somewhat compete. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:17:00 -
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so, i think the forge gun has been doing well lately. no ones complained once about it. honestly though i have to use a forge gun to kill hmg guys. its not tough and it a hell of a lot better at killing heavies than the ar. i can usually drop a heavy to 50 with a malitia(which i guess is fair with the pricing and all) but i can one hit them with a forge gun. and then a skinweave+malitia forge maybe costs around 1500 so i dont even need to pay for much at all. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1227
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:19:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:so, i think the forge gun has been doing well lately. no ones complained once about it. honestly though i have to use a forge gun to kill hmg guys. its not tough and it a hell of a lot better at killing heavies than the ar. i can usually drop a heavy to 50 with a malitia(which i guess is fair with the pricing and all) but i can one hit them with a forge gun. and then a skinweave+malitia forge maybe costs around 1500 so i dont even need to pay for much at all. So you agree that it requires a buff? When an AV weapon kills Infantry better than a rifle, there's a problem. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1276
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:26:00 -
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Yes my minions demand AR nerfs more so i can pretend to be even more as the king off the hill with my laser. To be honest the actual AR is fine at the moment how it is. The other AR's just simply suck (apart from the tactical cause that is "balanced"). And i bet only a quarter of the people here tried out the allotek burst assault rifle which has no recoil, has without the burst delay the same rate of fire like the balacs and it has the old fancy scope on it. Just a hint regarding burst AR's: STD-ADV-PRO have all different rate of fires and the PRO variant is the fastest firing burst rifle in the game. Sadly i see barely any 1 with it. Ignorant fools. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
130
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:35:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Yes my minions demand AR nerfs more so i can pretend to be even more as the king off the hill with my laser. To be honest the actual AR is fine at the moment how it is. The other AR's just simply suck (apart from the tactical cause that is "balanced"). And i bet only a quarter of the people here tried out the allotek burst assault rifle which has no recoil, has without the burst delay the same rate of fire like the balacs and it has the old fancy scope on it. Just a hint regarding burst AR's: STD-ADV-PRO have all different rate of fires and the PRO variant is the fastest firing burst rifle in the game. Sadly i see barely any 1 with it. Ignorant fools. Before I switched to MD, I used to rock the GK burst and the Allotek. At least until stacked damage mods and CoD run and gun tactics ruined any reason to do so. Bursts are by far superior, but people want to strafe left and right at point blank while praying and spraying their damage modded bullets.
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1540
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Posted - 2013.04.26 04:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Man, I can't keep up with who's trolling and who's really butthurt anymore FFFFFFFF..........
I'm not at all, I'm a heavy HMG and I think the AR is fine |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
134
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Posted - 2013.04.26 04:14:00 -
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Wow, even the mods are in on the conspiracy. Way to change the tile. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
304
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Posted - 2013.04.26 04:51:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease
The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again.
Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:08:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease
The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. Best troll turned serious discussion turned AR elitist butthurt fest thread ever! |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1540
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:12:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease
The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed.
no one really use the heavy any more, it's getting lonely but everyone wants to nerf the heavy more |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:14:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease
The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. no one really use the heavy any more, it's getting lonely but everyone wants to nerf the heavy more Once uprising comes out, people will be QQing to nerf sentinels.
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1540
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:18:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease
The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. no one really use the heavy any more, it's getting lonely but everyone wants to nerf the heavy more Once uprising comes out, people will be QQing to nerf sentinels. I mean heavy is hard to use and less people are using it and it needs to be nerf more come on really |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
146
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:18:00 -
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Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless.
I guess it would depend on what got buffed. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1540
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:21:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless.
I guess it would depend on what got buffed.
just like the heavy |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:25:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cosgar wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease
The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. no one really use the heavy any more, it's getting lonely but everyone wants to nerf the heavy more Once uprising comes out, people will be QQing to nerf sentinels. I mean heavy is hard to use and less people are using it and it needs to be nerf more come on really Heavies are kind of fine as is right now, but prototype tier suits could use some work on slot allocations. I think I said this in a heavy thread a while back but they should've kept the huge HP pool they had from chromosome, but be targetable by AV weapons that scaled down for balance. But back to AR, they're supposed to be the jack of all trades, master of none weapon. Instead they're the end all be all because of all the skill synergies and damage mod stacking. It's been hinted they're getting rebalanced, but nobody (outside the CPM) will really know until the 6th. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
146
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:26:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:DigiOps wrote:Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless.
I guess it would depend on what got buffed. just like the heavy I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:29:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:DigiOps wrote:Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless.
I guess it would depend on what got buffed. just like the heavy I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. Actually it will end up just like your tank test drives. SP skill, Player skill, and equipment levels are a huge factor in whatever class you play as. Also, militia heavy suits are made of toilet paper. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1540
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:33:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:DigiOps wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:DigiOps wrote:Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless.
I guess it would depend on what got buffed. just like the heavy I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. Actually it will end up just like your tank test drives. SP skill, Player skill, and equipment levels are a huge factor in whatever class you play as. Also, militia heavy suits are made of toilet paper.
and with all the proto AR and LR,Shotguns and it's hard being a heavy |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1231
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:35:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cosgar wrote:DigiOps wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:DigiOps wrote:Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless.
I guess it would depend on what got buffed. just like the heavy I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. Actually it will end up just like your tank test drives. SP skill, Player skill, and equipment levels are a huge factor in whatever class you play as. Also, militia heavy suits are made of toilet paper. and with all the proto AR and LR,Shotguns and it's hard being a heavy Yes, because there's no proto HMG right? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:47:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cosgar wrote:DigiOps wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:DigiOps wrote:Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless.
I guess it would depend on what got buffed. just like the heavy I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. Actually it will end up just like your tank test drives. SP skill, Player skill, and equipment levels are a huge factor in whatever class you play as. Also, militia heavy suits are made of toilet paper. and with all the proto AR and LR,Shotguns and it's hard being a heavy You guys still dominate the **** out of bottlenecks and choke points. AR players dominate... everything else... |
Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative
153
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:15:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cosgar wrote:DigiOps wrote:I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. Actually it will end up just like your tank test drives. SP skill, Player skill, and equipment levels are a huge factor in whatever class you play as. Also, militia heavy suits are made of toilet paper. and with all the proto AR and LR,Shotguns and it's hard being a heavy You guys still dominate the **** out of bottlenecks and choke points. AR players dominate... everything else... The appropriate counter to an HMG is a mass driver, laser rifle, sniper rifle, Duvolle AR, shotgun, or Locus grenade. And actually, scrambler pistols work pretty well if you can get headshots. But anything else and you--
Oh, and the GEK's can usually hold their own.
But anything else and you'd better run! |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:22:00 -
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Man, you just made me realize something, with everything getting nerfed and buffed there's almost no balance in this game right now. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1181
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Posted - 2013.04.26 07:12:00 -
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I love how everyone is -just now- saying the AR is over-powered when Uprising is less than two weeks from deployment.
Thanks guys, could have totally used your support a month and a half ago when it actually mattered -_- |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.04.26 07:23:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I love how everyone is -just now- saying the AR is over-powered when Uprising is less than two weeks from deployment.
Thanks guys, could have totally used your support a month and a half ago when it actually mattered -_- We've all been talking about it ever since the CoDex build but AR elitists would derail these threads like crazy. I'm starting to wonder if this is the real meta game that we'll see in Dust. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
205
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Posted - 2013.04.26 09:53:00 -
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11 pages woot. awesome sauce. and yes to everyone ars are op. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
288
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Posted - 2013.04.26 09:56:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease
The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again.
The laser is ment to be a long range weapon
The HMG i do agree with, it has some range on it
Shotgun is ment to be CQC
Breach AR needs a buff and yes we do need sights back i dont like iron sights |
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