Well, you'll be happy to know they're getting a buff in Uprising...

Hey now! All trolling aside, no need to spread false information. If this is a troll than by all means continue...

if you've ever played in a top-tier corp battle, laser rifle at range will anally **** an assault rifle. don't care how MLG pro your aim is, the DPS on a viziam + range + maybe damage mods = ARs don't stand a chance

assault rifles are good in most situations, but are still outclassed in certain ranges.

also it takes half a mag AT THE VERY LEAST to drop a proto suit, and that's if he's bad at strafing...you start nerfing the damage and adding more recoil, proto vs proto fights will turn into SMG spray fests with neither player could kill the other with an AR.

if PFBH laser players are having diffaculty at range vs AR then you guys should look for some new ones.

they lose to my standerd hmg, unless their tanked

Cubs has no problems with AR with his HMG

Sir Knight easts everyone with his laser

I watched Fiddlestaxp force an entire "fabulous" squad behind a wall while we easily capped a point.

I can point out plenty of players with high k/d's and use weapons other than AR

It started as a troll

QFT and AR humpers are going to continue to defend them to the death like NRA extremists and claim everything else is OP. The end result will be that 3 clips from a GEK will be able to kill a Segaris.

it's not the gun.


it's the person using it.


you have protoad heavy
you get faced by ar.


you blame gun.


LOL

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It's the absent lolstrategy and the CoD fanbois trying to make this into a twitch arcade shooter.

PROTIP: Only self centered d-bags sign their posts.

i keep giving you ladies the old militia ar labiaplasty and the best you got even with your protoad load outs is to nerf the ar?


lol classic.


couldn't play mag cuz you got jacked up so bad.
now you come here and get jacked up WITH shields, mind you


and you ladies STILL need an ar nerf.



this isn't the dust forums

it's the friggin vagina monlogues.


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ps
protip:
you ain't a pro. you're an anonymous kid. deal with it.

They could be balanced a little better, I will agree with that. They should be the generalist weapon, the fulcrum by which all other weapons are balanced.

BASSMEANT you play for Zion, you wouldn't understand a proper weapon as it shot you in the face.


Also, why are AR's the only weapons without overheat and such as large clip?

My tactical sniper and scrambler pistol outclass the assault rifle. And lol attack in teams and you will die a lot less. ARs aren't broken, teams and strategy is.

That's the problem! You need better armor and skills. You can't just fire a lazar rifle and expect to win with your armor.

What about when the other team starts storming your side? You need to upgrade your armor first...

110% dmg to shields and 90% to armor, some armor would help... a little... very little

...armor effing sucks!

It's not the AR it's light sharpshooter. I feel the same as you when a light sharpshooter proficiency AR kills me from across the map when I'm using the laser. This skill makes weapons ridiculous, not just the AR.

i figured out the problem and the answer to this whole situation.

sorry it took so long.


short answer:

you guys really need to start doing your kegels.


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sharpshooter will be taken away
but a nerf is going a bit to far. what needs to be nerfed are the damage mods people stack them so much its rediculous
blocking it to where one can be placed in a suit makes the proficiency skill a must.
even when i had proficiency lvl 4 i still had to empty a clip and a half into a good heavy so no i disagree.
im not an imp and not a hater on your post im just saying what i think the issue is.

and you got alot of mag players like me who love the ar game it seems to be the only cqc in the game thats any fun when infact the games are fair and people arent sitting in the mcc.

every gun has its goods and bads and every skill has its counter skill.

They said in the keynote that everything had been revamped and rebalanced

Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it.

Your optimism is a adorable.

what im trying to say is nerfing them wont help as long as damage mods are stackable...
take away the ability to stack damage mods and you have simple ar games where you wont think they are op.
make the profiecency skill start being used.

Actually, I'm a very optimistic person but being a customer of CCP for 5+ years has jaded me to being a pessimist when it comes to anything CCP related and being a customer of Sony for 20+ years just makes me jaded in general.

What's going to wind up happening is that even if AR does get their nerf, a new FotM with surface until that gets nerfed, but another FotM will resurface after that. It's an endless cycle that will continue until programmers stop being lazy and implement actual balance. Once that's achieved, Sony will be the checkov's gun to the whole story, forcing CCP to appeal to casuals in the end.

Mine was better

Never said it didn't, just get ready to make a post about the next FotM. It's premature, but I'm going to say the next one will be Amarr Assault with Scrambler Rifle.

nerfing weapons will only make the game ****** nerf the damn damage mods that seems to be the real issue. ive heard nerf this nerf that eventually ppl will run out of weapons to complain about then the next thing to be nerfed will be shield and armor modules. how about instead of worrying about the weapons we worry about why one year after this beta has been out we still get massive champion lag on certain maps, or how we still using the same maps or how we still dont have an options menu for selecting your other characters or how there isnt an eve to dust alliance connection or how there isnt a skill for boosting isk or how there isnt a store option to sell your salvage items whats the point of even earning salvage items if you cant skill everything to lvl 5 to use them if so ill have to wait some 30 years to do so. get my drift?

you're just bad AR need a small buff in sights if anything, learn how to use every other weapon

lol my god gun.
nice one but actually im good at everything i use in the game not just ar's
its called
people need to stop crying yes crying about nerfing something that they cant kill. dont blame the gun blame the ****** suit you use.
nuff said.

you think its op because we good players have no problem with the ARs. they are fine and requires the most skill at using. they already nerfed it so it doesnt need another one....what game have yall been playing?

good news guys, I was just speaking to CCP Foxfour in IRC (guy was typing a bit drunk lol) and he said some of the changes involving AR's were "clip size adjustment, improved recoil display, and a smaller damage gap" to ensure that newer players could just pick up an AR and play.

stop lying dummy im on irc now and he isnt even on it......

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THIS

they nerfed every AR.... and it been confirmed that the breach and Tac are getting an improvement in uprising so every AR will do fine now. ARs can't reach as long as snipers, ARs cant out DPS shotguns or HMGs, Mass drivers are supposed to be used a special way. learn how to play each weapon and you could do fine with it

no im saying they already had a nerf and they dont need another because they are FINE.........

but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build

sometimes i like to show people the idiot posting that's receiving my comments. what are you even talking about? are somehow trying to say im bad because i let shotgunners kill me? thats their job and in my post i was the one who used the fit with four dmg mods so i was talking about myself not some else killing me

dmg mods on an ar is not really op atleast we can tell the difference in this game and dmg mods actually seem to work. the down side to using dmg mods is lower health. use fuse grenades or the up coming scrambler rifle. just stop posting these faill post idiots the game is getting a massive update in like two weeks/ wait till may 6th before you decide what needs fixing....

lasers/snipers beat ars at range
hmgs beat ars at close
as well as shotguns
MD is a coin flip

i use it cause i can, thats whats so good about this game. i do what i want nub, if running 4 dmg on a shotgun is so bad then why do i do so well with it? maybe its not the guns people maybe its your playstyle

what had enough? i can put you scrubs in your place anyday and all day

can you not read?

ITT: Scissors can cut paper and rock, gets called out and claims it's the way it should be.

Hello?

oh well i made my point, seems like yall have nothing left to argue about because im true. seriously why are people even asking for nerfs and buffs now anyway? everything will change once Uprising comes. later dummies

some scissors CAN cut rock, when used the right way

I HATE IT WHEN MY PARENTS FIGHT!!!! Daddy always ends up hitting mommy! FFS guys, you two are lucky the Devs are all drunk in Iceland. They should have locked this thread hours ago for flaming.

Are you still doing the QQ Kitten about this?

HTFU, of all the Mercs in DUST why would you even need to hear this?

If you are Not Trolling here is the reply (Trolling is responded to below).

Okay, one more time: the AR is the default weapon. It works well under many circumstances but not is not perfect in any one. This means this is the one weapon that will kill you the most often because it is the most used weapon. Not because it is the most powerful weapon.

Yes, you will get butt hurt by it.

Some will sharpshooter to lvl 5 and proficiency to lvl 5 and surprise you with distance, some will be running damage modules plus being leveled in AR proficiency will increase damage even more. That will give them plenty of power to pop your shotgunning head right off because you came running at them. If you run at them and they see you then you should expect to die. Having a shotgun should not mean insta-kills with magically invincible armor.

For those that don't know (which should not include the OP) the AR Nerf flattened out the abilities between the various versions. Some Merc that is a good shot can use the Exile or a standard 60 round clip tier 1 AR and clean your clock. After the big AR Nerf they no longer needed the high level weapons because there is not much difference between them.

Kitten, I even know a Merc that only uses the 48round Militia version and he is terribly effective with it. You will die when he decides your time has come and there will be precious little you can do about it. Running might work. Might not. If he has his sight on you ... it won't.

As far as the HMG goes a Ninja Nerf some weeks back made all Heavies much easier to kill. The AR is not the problem. Running without a Logi Bro used to be possible. My alt did it all the time. Now, under those conditions he switches to Assault and runs ... his Exile or a GEK.

Have a nice day.

If this was really a Troll than this here the Troll Response:

As far as the laser rifle goes you shouldn't be allowed to use it. It doesn't belong in the game and only poor shoots with no armor use it. It should only be allowed to be used in meetings for highlighting slides.

Not much

No.

Lol, what point? You do everything that every other AR elitist does:

1.Claim that everyone else's gun game is inferior to yours as a claim that the weapon is balanced.
2.Discredit and downright slander the skill required to use other weapons.
3. Argue 1 or 2 over and over again, but use a different choice of words.

nothing needs anything until after the 6th. we know nothing. they say they touched every weapon, they re worked gameplay they messed with vehicle mechanics. we know nothing of how anything works in relation to everything else. this thread and most other threads on the forum are useless speculation. after the sixth we will have lots of premature QQing but at least they will have some facts...maybe.

If there were a case of too much trolling, I think this would be it.

Someone needs to make a serious AR nerf topic in the feedback forums btw...

Wasn't obvious to FotM scrubs and AR elitists. So it was successful in that regard. If you kept it about AR, you could have easily gotten another 15 pages.

why did you change the title and everything


(i am lost)

we will see