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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:48:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:first off stop qouting me cause i can't qoute u and. like all u av ppl say if u were good u wouldn't have let the shotgun get so close to u if u were good. am i right. sometimes i like to show people the idiot posting that's receiving my comments. what are you even talking about? are somehow trying to say im bad because i let shotgunners kill me? thats their job and in my post i was the one who used the fit with four dmg mods so i was talking about myself not some else killing me 4 damage mods = glass cannon 6 shots with proto ar will kill them literally u can't do tht u deserve to die. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:49:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:You guys don't understand, the damage calculation for all weapons is (n+base dmg)x4 (dmgmodsx1.05) + vy/vx. But for the ar's, the variable is a static 48, which makes x = 48, combine that with dmgmods and the gun is op. Also, vx is static as well and the recoil time shifts slightly every 0.8 seconds. dmg mods on an ar is not really op atleast we can tell the difference in this game and dmg mods actually seem to work. the down side to using dmg mods is lower health. use fuse grenades or the up coming scrambler rifle. just stop posting these faill post idiots the game is getting a massive update in like two weeks/ wait till may 6th before you decide what needs fixing.... |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:50:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build CoD's successful, maybe dust can build off that. It's not all that bad you know. Also, esports could work.
cod works because of esports, cod also gets boring after 2-3 months and has been the same for years. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:50:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:You guys don't understand, the damage calculation for all weapons is (n+base dmg)x4 (dmgmodsx1.05) + vy/vx. But for the ar's, the variable is a static 48, which makes x = 48, combine that with dmgmods and the gun is op. Also, vx is static as well and the recoil time shifts slightly every 0.8 seconds. dmg mods on an ar is not really op atleast we can tell the difference in this game and dmg mods actually seem to work. the down side to using dmg mods is lower health. use fuse grenades or the up coming scrambler rifle. just stop posting these faill post idiots the game is getting a massive update in like two weeks/ wait till may 6th before you decide what needs fixing.... then how is 4 damage mods on a shotgun op? unless u think it super charges it. i don't know anyone who uses 4 damage mods on a shotgun as a normal fit. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1225
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:51:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:first off stop qouting me cause i can't qoute u and. like all u av ppl say if u were good u wouldn't have let the shotgun get so close to u if u were good. am i right. sometimes i like to show people the idiot posting that's receiving my comments. what are you even talking about? are somehow trying to say im bad because i let shotgunners kill me? thats their job and in my post i was the one who used the fit with four dmg mods so i was talking about myself not some else killing me You're an idiot, the fourth dmg mod does barely anything lol, u waste. |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:52:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build i don't want the other guns to change just the ar cause it owns every weapon in every field. other than the shot gun and sniper. only the ar can. it has good damage output on all ranges unlike a lasor and doesn't need to heat up to hurt them a lot.
lasers/snipers beat ars at range hmgs beat ars at close as well as shotguns MD is a coin flip
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Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1225
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:52:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build CoD's successful, maybe dust can build off that. It's not all that bad you know. Also, esports could work. cod works because of esports, cod also gets boring after 2-3 months and has been the same for years. How come everyone plays it? Also, they have new weapon and maps all the times. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:52:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build i don't want the other guns to change just the ar cause it owns every weapon in every field. other than the shot gun and sniper. only the ar can. it has good damage output on all ranges unlike a lasor and doesn't need to heat up to hurt them a lot. lasers/snipers beat ars at range hmgs beat ars at close as well as shotguns MD is a coin flip and Ar is the king of all those catagories. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1225
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:53:00 -
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Nova gtfo here, I'll tell you something about AR's later. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:54:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:You guys don't understand, the damage calculation for all weapons is (n+base dmg)x4 (dmgmodsx1.05) + vy/vx. But for the ar's, the variable is a static 48, which makes x = 48, combine that with dmgmods and the gun is op. Also, vx is static as well and the recoil time shifts slightly every 0.8 seconds. dmg mods on an ar is not really op atleast we can tell the difference in this game and dmg mods actually seem to work. the down side to using dmg mods is lower health. use fuse grenades or the up coming scrambler rifle. just stop posting these faill post idiots the game is getting a massive update in like two weeks/ wait till may 6th before you decide what needs fixing.... then how is 4 damage mods on a shotgun op? unless u think it super charges it. i don't know anyone who uses 4 damage mods on a shotgun as a normal fit.
i use it cause i can, thats whats so good about this game. i do what i want nub, if running 4 dmg on a shotgun is so bad then why do i do so well with it? maybe its not the guns people maybe its your playstyle |
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:55:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:You guys don't understand, the damage calculation for all weapons is (n+base dmg)x4 (dmgmodsx1.05) + vy/vx. But for the ar's, the variable is a static 48, which makes x = 48, combine that with dmgmods and the gun is op. Also, vx is static as well and the recoil time shifts slightly every 0.8 seconds. dmg mods on an ar is not really op atleast we can tell the difference in this game and dmg mods actually seem to work. the down side to using dmg mods is lower health. use fuse grenades or the up coming scrambler rifle. just stop posting these faill post idiots the game is getting a massive update in like two weeks/ wait till may 6th before you decide what needs fixing.... then how is 4 damage mods on a shotgun op? unless u think it super charges it. i don't know anyone who uses 4 damage mods on a shotgun as a normal fit. i use it cause i can, thats whats so good about this game. i do what i want nub, if running 4 dmg on a shotgun is so bad then why do i do so well with it? maybe its not the guns people maybe its your playstyle maybe its the op ar. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:56:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build CoD's successful, maybe dust can build off that. It's not all that bad you know. Also, esports could work. cod works because of esports, cod also gets boring after 2-3 months and has been the same for years. How come everyone plays it? Also, they have new weapon and maps all the times.
weapons that do the same **** as any other weapon on the game. tho i do agree we need more maps but i guess we get that in time for freee while you have to pay for each upgrade in cod that doesnt give as much as dust updates |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:57:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Nova gtfo here, I'll tell you something about AR's later.
what had enough? i can put you scrubs in your place anyday and all day |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:58:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build i don't want the other guns to change just the ar cause it owns every weapon in every field. other than the shot gun and sniper. only the ar can. it has good damage output on all ranges unlike a lasor and doesn't need to heat up to hurt them a lot. lasers/snipers beat ars at range hmgs beat ars at close as well as shotguns MD is a coin flip and Ar is the king of all those catagories.
can you not read? |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:58:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Nova gtfo here, I'll tell you something about AR's later. what had enough? i can put you scrubs in your place anyday and all day Lol of course u use tht op ar |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:59:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:but ALL the other weapons excel at their JOB, they are better than the AR at their JOB, if you just fix every weapon to have the same function as the AR then this will turn into another basic(COD) shooter. ARs are fine you chumps are just the same few that have been sucking build after build i don't want the other guns to change just the ar cause it owns every weapon in every field. other than the shot gun and sniper. only the ar can. it has good damage output on all ranges unlike a lasor and doesn't need to heat up to hurt them a lot. lasers/snipers beat ars at range hmgs beat ars at close as well as shotguns MD is a coin flip and Ar is the king of all those catagories. can you not read? can u not read. i said ars are better than all of them in their specialized catagories. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
124
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:00:00 -
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ITT: Scissors can cut paper and rock, gets called out and claims it's the way it should be. |
Indy Strizer
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
70
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:01:00 -
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Hello? |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:01:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ITT: Scissors can cut paper and rock, gets called out and claims it's the way it should be. i know can u believe some ar users. |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:01:00 -
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oh well i made my point, seems like yall have nothing left to argue about because im true. seriously why are people even asking for nerfs and buffs now anyway? everything will change once Uprising comes. later dummies |
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:01:00 -
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Indy Strizer wrote:Hello? o/ hows it going. u joining the part. \o/ |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:02:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ITT: Scissors can cut paper and rock, gets called out and claims it's the way it should be.
some scissors CAN cut rock, when used the right way |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:02:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:oh well i made my point, seems like yall have nothing left to argue about because im true. seriously why are people even asking for nerfs and buffs now anyway? everything will change once Uprising comes. later dummies cause ppl like u r stubborn and to realize the most obvious things. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:03:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Cosgar wrote:ITT: Scissors can cut paper and rock, gets called out and claims it's the way it should be. some scissors CAN cut rock, when used the right way yea so now u agree tht ars are op. u just admited it. |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:03:00 -
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I HATE IT WHEN MY PARENTS FIGHT!!!! Daddy always ends up hitting mommy! FFS guys, you two are lucky the Devs are all drunk in Iceland. They should have locked this thread hours ago for flaming. |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:04:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:Cosgar wrote:ITT: Scissors can cut paper and rock, gets called out and claims it's the way it should be. some scissors CAN cut rock, when used the right way yea so now u agree tht ars are op. u just admited it.
doesnt matter since they wont be changing **** till may 6th buddy |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
363
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:05:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote: -- snip of troll-o-matic -- Are you still doing the QQ Kitten about this?
HTFU, of all the Mercs in DUST why would you even need to hear this?
If you are Not Trolling here is the reply (Trolling is responded to below).
Okay, one more time: the AR is the default weapon. It works well under many circumstances but not is not perfect in any one. This means this is the one weapon that will kill you the most often because it is the most used weapon. Not because it is the most powerful weapon.
Yes, you will get butt hurt by it.
Some will sharpshooter to lvl 5 and proficiency to lvl 5 and surprise you with distance, some will be running damage modules plus being leveled in AR proficiency will increase damage even more. That will give them plenty of power to pop your shotgunning head right off because you came running at them. If you run at them and they see you then you should expect to die. Having a shotgun should not mean insta-kills with magically invincible armor.
For those that don't know (which should not include the OP) the AR Nerf flattened out the abilities between the various versions. Some Merc that is a good shot can use the Exile or a standard 60 round clip tier 1 AR and clean your clock. After the big AR Nerf they no longer needed the high level weapons because there is not much difference between them.
Kitten, I even know a Merc that only uses the 48round Militia version and he is terribly effective with it. You will die when he decides your time has come and there will be precious little you can do about it. Running might work. Might not. If he has his sight on you ... it won't.
As far as the HMG goes a Ninja Nerf some weeks back made all Heavies much easier to kill. The AR is not the problem. Running without a Logi Bro used to be possible. My alt did it all the time. Now, under those conditions he switches to Assault and runs ... his Exile or a GEK.
Have a nice day.
If this was really a Troll than this here the Troll Response:
As far as the laser rifle goes you shouldn't be allowed to use it. It doesn't belong in the game and only poor shoots with no armor use it. It should only be allowed to be used in meetings for highlighting slides.
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:05:00 -
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Zsiga What wrote:I HATE IT WHEN MY PARENTS FIGHT!!!! Daddy always ends up hitting mommy! FFS guys, you two are lucky the Devs are all drunk in Iceland. They should have locked this thread hours ago for flaming. r we. i'm expressing my very honest oppinon. :D |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:06:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Icy Tiger wrote: -- snip of troll-o-matic -- Are you still doing the QQ Kitten about this? HTFU, of all the Mercs in DUST why would you even need to hear this? If you are Not Trolling here is the reply (Trolling is responded to below). Okay, one more time: the AR is the default weapon. It works well under many circumstances but not is not perfect in any one. This means this is the one weapon that will kill you the most often because it is the most used weapon. Not because it is the most powerful weapon. Yes, you will get butt hurt by it. Some will sharpshooter to lvl 5 and proficiency to lvl 5 and surprise you with distance, some will be running damage modules plus being leveled in AR proficiency will increase damage even more. That will give them plenty of power to pop your shotgunning head right off because you came running at them. If you run at them and they see you then you should expect to die. Having a shotgun should not mean insta-kills with magically invincible armor. For those that don't know (which should not include the OP) the AR Nerf flattened out the abilities between the various versions. Some Merc that is a good shot can use the Exile or a standard 60 round clip tier 1 AR and clean your clock. After the big AR Nerf they no longer needed the high level weapons because there is not much difference between them. Kitten, I even know a Merc that only uses the 48round Militia version and he is terribly effective with it. You will die when he decides your time has come and there will be precious little you can do about it. Running might work. Might not. If he has his sight on you ... it won't. As far as the HMG goes a Ninja Nerf some weeks back made all Heavies much easier to kill. The AR is not the problem. Running without a Logi Bro used to be possible. My alt did it all the time. Now, under those conditions he switches to Assault and runs ... his Exile or a GEK. Have a nice day. If this was really a Troll than this here the Troll Response:As far as the laser rifle goes you shouldn't be allowed to use it. It doesn't belong in the game and only poor shoots with no armor use it. It should only be allowed to be used in meetings for highlighting slides. thts to much to read. i'm assuming its something about ars are fine. They r OP. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
203
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:07:00 -
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Yani Nabari wrote:Not much is it much now. :D
10 pages WOOT. |
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