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Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:35:00 -
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Damn I wont even be able to use my breach ar before it is nerfed again |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
185
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:35:00 -
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if you've ever played in a top-tier corp battle, laser rifle at range will anally **** an assault rifle. don't care how MLG pro your aim is, the DPS on a viziam + range + maybe damage mods = ARs don't stand a chance
assault rifles are good in most situations, but are still outclassed in certain ranges.
also it takes half a mag AT THE VERY LEAST to drop a proto suit, and that's if he's bad at strafing...you start nerfing the damage and adding more recoil, proto vs proto fights will turn into SMG spray fests with neither player could kill the other with an AR. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:39:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use a laser, some a-hole with sharpshooter gets me. When I use an HMG, he can out dps me. When I use a shotgun he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely overpowered weapon and needs a major reduction in damage, range, and a recoil increase.
The iron sights are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be more done to prevent more than 70% of the player base to destroy using an assault rifle.
So your saying you can't beat an AR at range with a laser rifle? Sounds like a L2P issue to me.
AR is the bess all around weapon in the game, i'll admit that. However every other weapon in the game has an area where it absolutely dominates at.
Mass Driver - Can suppress and entire squad, making it impossible for them to leave cover Laser Rifle - Kings of long range Sniper Rifle - Kings of extreme range HMG - Owns at CQC to Med Range Shotgun - CQC King
As a player if you have to know the strengths of your weapon and play to those. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
114
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:40:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Cosgar wrote:Berserker007 wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Mine was better Stfu scrub, all you imps want to just make everyone use the ar cause you don't have any skill for anything else. Grab a real gun scrubs. you mean use a laser that is beyond broken, or a mass driver that doesnt require u to really aim, or an HMG that rarely overheats ? From what i see, the AR actually required you to aim and track a target. Hell, based on your "ideas" we should all just shoot each other w/ marshmallow guns. Go HTFU Hey now! All trolling aside, no need to spread false information. If this is a troll than by all means continue... mass driver = no skill just shoot above the head fire and + 50. if not dead shoot ur entire clip to ensure success. Riiiiight...
By all means, if it's so OP link a video of you topping the leader boards with one. Don't have one? Put a level in it. If it's so OP, you're only going to need 1 level in it right? |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
180
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:40:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:if you've ever played in a top-tier corp battle, laser rifle at range will anally **** an assault rifle. don't care how MLG pro your aim is, the DPS on a viziam + range + maybe damage mods = ARs don't stand a chance
assault rifles are good in most situations, but are still outclassed in certain ranges.
also it takes half a mag AT THE VERY LEAST to drop a proto suit, and that's if he's bad at strafing...you start nerfing the damage and adding more recoil, proto vs proto fights will turn into SMG spray fests with neither player could kill the other with an AR. r u serious AR > Laser any day. unless u heat up tht little beam before u hit the AR guy. |
Nexus Tau
DIOS EX.
30
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:42:00 -
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AR's are going to have a heat-up time. This feature may balance the gameplay a little bit. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
148
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:43:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use a laser, some a-hole with sharpshooter gets me. When I use an HMG, he can out dps me. When I use a shotgun he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely overpowered weapon and needs a major reduction in damage, range, and a recoil increase.
The iron sights are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be more done to prevent more than 70% of the player base to destroy using an assault rifle.
So your saying you can't beat an AR at range with a laser rifle? Sounds like a L2P issue to me. AR is the bess all around weapon in the game, i'll admit that. However every other weapon in the game has an area where it absolutely dominates at. Mass Driver - Can suppress and entire squad, making it impossible for them to leave cover Laser Rifle - Kings of long range Sniper Rifle - Kings of extreme range HMG - Owns at CQC to Med Range Shotgun - CQC King As a player if you have to know the strengths of your weapon and play to those.
Shut up, scrublet! The AR is mad OP! If I can't outgun it with an MH-82, then things have gone way south and the NERFHAMMER mus be brought down! |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:43:00 -
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if PFBH laser players are having diffaculty at range vs AR then you guys should look for some new ones. |
Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
126
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:44:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Cosgar wrote: Hey now! All trolling aside, no need to spread false information. If this is a troll than by all means continue...
mass driver = no skill just shoot above the head fire and + 50. if not dead shoot ur entire clip to ensure success. Riiiiight... By all means, if it's so OP link a video of you topping the leader boards with one. Don't have one? Put a level in it. If it's so OP, you're only going to need 1 level in it right?
I'm so pro I get top of the leaderboards while afk. No joke. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
187
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:44:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:King Kobrah wrote:if you've ever played in a top-tier corp battle, laser rifle at range will anally **** an assault rifle. don't care how MLG pro your aim is, the DPS on a viziam + range + maybe damage mods = ARs don't stand a chance
assault rifles are good in most situations, but are still outclassed in certain ranges.
also it takes half a mag AT THE VERY LEAST to drop a proto suit, and that's if he's bad at strafing...you start nerfing the damage and adding more recoil, proto vs proto fights will turn into SMG spray fests with neither player could kill the other with an AR. r u serious AR > Laser any day. unless u heat up tht little beam before u hit the AR guy. The viziam can drop an AR user statistically faster than the AR can kill them, especially if damage mods are involved. this is just a fact. factor in distance, LR having no recoil at all, and diminished returns on the AR because of the range, it's no contest. |
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Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
148
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:45:00 -
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The AR is OP and should not be the insta-counter to every gun! |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
114
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:45:00 -
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Man, I can't keep up with who's trolling and who's really butthurt anymore FFFFFFFF.......... |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:46:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use a laser, some a-hole with sharpshooter gets me. When I use an HMG, he can out dps me. When I use a shotgun he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely overpowered weapon and needs a major reduction in damage, range, and a recoil increase.
The iron sights are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be more done to prevent more than 70% of the player base to destroy using an assault rifle.
So your saying you can't beat an AR at range with a laser rifle? Sounds like a L2P issue to me. AR is the bess all around weapon in the game, i'll admit that. However every other weapon in the game has an area where it absolutely dominates at. Mass Driver - Can suppress and entire squad, making it impossible for them to leave cover Laser Rifle - Kings of long range Sniper Rifle - Kings of extreme range HMG - Owns at CQC to Med Range Shotgun - CQC King As a player if you have to know the strengths of your weapon and play to those. Shut up, scrublet! The AR is mad OP! If I can't outgun it with an MH-82, then things have gone way south and the NERFHAMMER mus be brought down!
or your aim needs to be brought up.
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
178
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:46:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:if PFBH laser players are having diffaculty at range vs AR then you guys should look for some new ones. it's PFBHz and ARs are OP. Face the facts when does an AR ever lose a 1v1 fight. they r the gods of the battlefield. |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
173
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:49:00 -
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AR=
-Crappy iron sights
-X and Y recoil
-Prot AR has more recoil than the stan AR
The reason is so deadly is not the gun, but me
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slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
207
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:49:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:if PFBH laser players are having diffaculty at range vs AR then you guys should look for some new ones. it's PFBHz and ARs are OP. Face the facts when does an AR ever lose a 1v1 fight. they r the gods of the battlefield. they lose to my standerd hmg, unless their tanked |
hooc roht
Black Soul Choir
32
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:51:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote: also, buff dropsuit HP's, leave guns the same, game = fixed. You're welcome CCP.
Dropsuits are OP. All weapons should be one ht one kill....some should have bigger splash damage. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1219
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:51:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use a laser, some a-hole with sharpshooter gets me. When I use an HMG, he can out dps me. When I use a shotgun he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely overpowered weapon and needs a major reduction in damage, range, and a recoil increase.
The iron sights are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be more done to prevent more than 70% of the player base to destroy using an assault rifle.
So your saying you can't beat an AR at range with a laser rifle? Sounds like a L2P issue to me. AR is the bess all around weapon in the game, i'll admit that. However every other weapon in the game has an area where it absolutely dominates at. Mass Driver - Can suppress and entire squad, making it impossible for them to leave cover Laser Rifle - Kings of long range Sniper Rifle - Kings of extreme range HMG - Owns at CQC to Med Range Shotgun - CQC King As a player if you have to know the strengths of your weapon and play to those. Shut up, scrublet! The AR is mad OP! If I can't outgun it with an MH-82, then things have gone way south and the NERFHAMMER mus be brought down! or your aim needs to be brought up. Its not about the "strength" of the weapon, it's about ar's and how they're op.
Even Mr.Zitro agrees that they need a nerf, I've used them a lot as well, I'm into my Gek now, and with some damage mods, I still can't kill a guy with a duvolle. Even with my viziam and 3 dmg mods, he still out dps me at around 20 m.
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Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1219
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:51:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:AR=
-Crappy iron sights
-X and Y recoil
-Prot AR has more recoil than the stan AR
The reason is so deadly is not the gun, but me
Who are you. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1219
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:52:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Orin the Freak wrote: also, buff dropsuit HP's, leave guns the same, game = fixed. You're welcome CCP.
Dropsuits are OP. All weapons should be one ht one kill....some should have bigger splash damage. Do you think you're funny? |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
114
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:52:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use a laser, some a-hole with sharpshooter gets me. When I use an HMG, he can out dps me. When I use a shotgun he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely overpowered weapon and needs a major reduction in damage, range, and a recoil increase.
The iron sights are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be more done to prevent more than 70% of the player base to destroy using an assault rifle.
So your saying you can't beat an AR at range with a laser rifle? Sounds like a L2P issue to me. AR is the bess all around weapon in the game, i'll admit that. However every other weapon in the game has an area where it absolutely dominates at. Mass Driver - Can suppress and entire squad, making it impossible for them to leave cover Laser Rifle - Kings of long range Sniper Rifle - Kings of extreme range HMG - Owns at CQC to Med Range Shotgun - CQC King As a player if you have to know the strengths of your weapon and play to those. Shut up, scrublet! The AR is mad OP! If I can't outgun it with an MH-82, then things have gone way south and the NERFHAMMER mus be brought down! or your aim needs to be brought up. Who the kitten aims with a HMG?!
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
180
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:53:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:if PFBH laser players are having diffaculty at range vs AR then you guys should look for some new ones. it's PFBHz and ARs are OP. Face the facts when does an AR ever lose a 1v1 fight. they r the gods of the battlefield. they lose to my standerd hmg, unless their tanked wat milita ars have u seen proto ars. need a nerf. u will lose every fight to an ar advanced or higher. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:58:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:if PFBH laser players are having diffaculty at range vs AR then you guys should look for some new ones. it's PFBHz and ARs are OP. Face the facts when does an AR ever lose a 1v1 fight. they r the gods of the battlefield.
Cubs has no problems with AR with his HMG
Sir Knight easts everyone with his laser
I watched Fiddlestaxp force an entire "fabulous" squad behind a wall while we easily capped a point.
I can point out plenty of players with high k/d's and use weapons other than AR |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:00:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This has gone too far. When I use a laser, some a-hole with sharpshooter gets me. When I use an HMG, he can out dps me. When I use a shotgun he kills me way too easily.
The point is, the AR is a hugely overpowered weapon and needs a major reduction in damage, range, and a recoil increase.
The iron sights are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be more done to prevent more than 70% of the player base to destroy using an assault rifle.
So your saying you can't beat an AR at range with a laser rifle? Sounds like a L2P issue to me. AR is the bess all around weapon in the game, i'll admit that. However every other weapon in the game has an area where it absolutely dominates at. Mass Driver - Can suppress and entire squad, making it impossible for them to leave cover Laser Rifle - Kings of long range Sniper Rifle - Kings of extreme range HMG - Owns at CQC to Med Range Shotgun - CQC King As a player if you have to know the strengths of your weapon and play to those. Shut up, scrublet! The AR is mad OP! If I can't outgun it with an MH-82, then things have gone way south and the NERFHAMMER mus be brought down! or your aim needs to be brought up. Its not about the "strength" of the weapon, it's about ar's and how they're op. Even Mr.Zitro agrees that they need a nerf, I've used them a lot as well, I'm into my Gek now, and with some damage mods, I still can't kill a guy with a duvolle. Even with my viziam and 3 dmg mods, he still out dps me at around 20 m.
its not the gun... its you... I havn't used a duvolle in anything besides corpmatches and a few good pub games and duvolles havn't been a huge problem for me even when i run my type-II Exxile AR build.
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Rifter7
Arrogance. EoN.
200
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:01:00 -
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yeah.. i kind of feel that they're not overpowered... but they're definitely pretty strong.
you'd think that a lot of niche weapons in a range that the niche weapon should dominate would beat ar's... but instead heavily skilled ar's vs a different specialization just as specced and the same player skill level just kind of.. throws that fight up into the air. it's kind of just strong everywhere except vs high sp lasers (sharpshooter 7-10) at range and snipers.
i heard they where getting a range nerf tho.. something to do with how sharpshooter will be for specific weapons and effect them all differently? (don't quote me.) |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
173
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:03:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:AR=
-Crappy iron sights
-X and Y recoil
-Prot AR has more recoil than the stan AR
The reason is so deadly is not the gun, but me
Who are you.
im kinda drunk and a non-factor |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
180
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:03:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:if PFBH laser players are having diffaculty at range vs AR then you guys should look for some new ones. it's PFBHz and ARs are OP. Face the facts when does an AR ever lose a 1v1 fight. they r the gods of the battlefield. Cubs has no problems with AR with his HMG Sir Knight easts everyone with his laser I watched Fiddlestaxp force an entire "fabulous" squad behind a wall while we easily capped a point. I can point out plenty of players with high k/d's and use weapons other than AR so can i tanks proves nothing i can show u ppl with better kdrs with assault rifles than any other infantry regnum want to know why cause he uses an AR. or even players with the most kills in a game other than snipers are ar users. it's op. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
479
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:04:00 -
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I hope you guys know this is a troll thread.... |
Hana-Maru
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
34
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:07:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I hope you guys know this is a troll thread....
no, its being hijacked by trolls.
srsly, im tired of gettin face-raped by militia ARs |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
479
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:09:00 -
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Hana-Maru wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I hope you guys know this is a troll thread.... no, its being hijacked by trolls. srsly, im tired of gettin face-raped by militia ARs It started as a troll |
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