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Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 111	Posted - 2013.04.25 23:05:00 - [1] - Quote Even though this is a troll, it is true. ARs need a serious nerf or this is going to be another generic twitch gaming FPS that we don't need.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 111	Posted - 2013.04.25 23:10:00 - [2] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: buff dropsuit HP's, leave guns the same, game = fixed. You're welcome CCP. That's.... actually a good idea....
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 112	Posted - 2013.04.25 23:32:00 - [3] - Quote Berserker007 wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: Mine was better Stfu scrub, all you imps want to just make everyone use the ar cause you don't have any skill for anything else. Grab a real gun scrubs. you mean use a laser that is beyond broken, or a mass driver that doesnt require u to really aim, or an HMG that rarely overheats ? From what i see, the AR actually required you to aim and track a target. Hell, based on your "ideas" we should all just shoot each other w/ marshmallow guns. Go HTFU Hey now! All trolling aside, no need to spread false information. If this is a troll than by all means continue...
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 114	Posted - 2013.04.25 23:40:00 - [4] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Berserker007 wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: Mine was better Stfu scrub, all you imps want to just make everyone use the ar cause you don't have any skill for anything else. Grab a real gun scrubs. you mean use a laser that is beyond broken, or a mass driver that doesnt require u to really aim, or an HMG that rarely overheats ? From what i see, the AR actually required you to aim and track a target. Hell, based on your "ideas" we should all just shoot each other w/ marshmallow guns. Go HTFU Hey now! All trolling aside, no need to spread false information. If this is a troll than by all means continue... mass driver = no skill just shoot above the head fire and + 50. if not dead shoot ur entire clip to ensure success. Riiiiight... By all means, if it's so OP link a video of you topping the leader boards with one. Don't have one? Put a level in it. If it's so OP, you're only going to need 1 level in it right?
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 114	Posted - 2013.04.25 23:45:00 - [5] - Quote Man, I can't keep up with who's trolling and who's really butthurt anymore FFFFFFFF..........
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 114	Posted - 2013.04.25 23:52:00 - [6] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Deluxe Edition wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: This has gone too far. When I use a laser, some a-hole with sharpshooter gets me. When I use an HMG, he can out dps me. When I use a shotgun he kills me way too easily. The point is, the AR is a hugely overpowered weapon and needs a major reduction in damage, range, and a recoil increase. The iron sights are a step in the right direction, but there needs to be more done to prevent more than 70% of the player base to destroy using an assault rifle. So your saying you can't beat an AR at range with a laser rifle? Sounds like a L2P issue to me. AR is the bess all around weapon in the game, i'll admit that. However every other weapon in the game has an area where it absolutely dominates at. Mass Driver - Can suppress and entire squad, making it impossible for them to leave cover Laser Rifle - Kings of long range Sniper Rifle - Kings of extreme range HMG - Owns at CQC to Med Range Shotgun - CQC King As a player if you have to know the strengths of your weapon and play to those. Shut up, scrublet! The AR is mad OP! If I can't outgun it with an MH-82, then things have gone way south and the NERFHAMMER mus be brought down! or your aim needs to be brought up. Who the kitten aims with a HMG?!
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 115	Posted - 2013.04.26 00:24:00 - [7] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: and it shall continue to be a thread about nerfing ar's as they r op. QFT and AR humpers are going to continue to defend them to the death like NRA extremists and claim everything else is OP. The end result will be that 3 clips from a GEK will be able to kill a Segaris.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 116	Posted - 2013.04.26 00:39:00 - [8] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: it's not the gun. it's the person using it. you have protoad heavy you get faced by ar. you blame gun. It's the absent lolstrategy and the CoD fanbois trying to make this into a twitch arcade shooter. Quote: Peace B PROTIP: Only self centered d-bags sign their posts.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:15:00 - [9] - Quote Looks like the Weaponry Skill got revamped. A step in the right direction since ARs got the most benefit out of the 10% increase and it doesn't unlock damage mods anymore.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:20:00 - [10] - Quote He probably doesn't even ADS or use cover because he's so l33t

Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:59:00 - [11] - Quote Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:03:00 - [12] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it. it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :). Your optimism is a adorable.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:12:00 - [13] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it. it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :). Your optimism is a adorable. ur negativity is noted and u r a glass half empty kind of guy. Which means u don't believe the ar will get wat it deserves a nerf. Actually, I'm a very optimistic person but being a customer of CCP for 5+ years has jaded me to being a pessimist when it comes to anything CCP related and being a customer of Sony for 20+ years just makes me jaded in general. What's going to wind up happening is that even if AR does get their nerf, a new FotM with surface until that gets nerfed, but another FotM will resurface after that. It's an endless cycle that will continue until programmers stop being lazy and implement actual balance. Once that's achieved, Sony will be the checkov's gun to the whole story, forcing CCP to appeal to casuals in the end.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:18:00 - [14] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: well to bad the ar needs a nerf. and we all know it. Never said it didn't, just get ready to make a post about the next FotM. It's premature, but I'm going to say the next one will be Amarr Assault with Scrambler Rifle.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 121	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:33:00 - [15] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: good news guys, I was just speaking to CCP Foxfour in IRC (guy was typing a bit drunk lol) and he said some of the changes involving AR's were "clip size adjustment, improved recoil display, and a smaller damage gap" to ensure that newer players could just pick up an AR and play. I was almost going to uninstall Dust until I saw who posted that.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 121	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:34:00 - [16] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: you're just bad AR need a small buff in sights if anything, learn how to use every other weapon no it needs a nerf not a buff plz u should know why do u use it exclusivly then because its bad. plz u know it's op. you think its op because we good players have no problem with the ARs. they are fine and requires the most skill at using. they already nerfed it so it doesnt need another one....what game have yall been playing? +1 THIS why ars take less skill than lasers at least u have to heat up a laser all u do with an ar is point and click. OMG thts so much SKILL!!!!! Not to mention you actually have to ADS with a laser.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 124	Posted - 2013.04.26 03:00:00 - [17] - Quote ITT: Scissors can cut paper and rock, gets called out and claims it's the way it should be.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 127	Posted - 2013.04.26 03:09:00 - [18] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: oh well i made my point, seems like yall have nothing left to argue about because im true. seriously why are people even asking for nerfs and buffs now anyway? everything will change once Uprising comes. later dummies Lol, what point? You do everything that every other AR elitist does: 1.Claim that everyone else's gun game is inferior to yours as a claim that the weapon is balanced. 2.Discredit and downright slander the skill required to use other weapons. 3. Argue 1 or 2 over and over again, but use a different choice of words.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 130	Posted - 2013.04.26 03:35:00 - [19] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Yes my minions demand AR nerfs more so i can pretend to be even more as the king off the hill with my laser. To be honest the actual AR is fine at the moment how it is. The other AR's just simply suck (apart from the tactical cause that is "balanced"). And i bet only a quarter of the people here tried out the allotek burst assault rifle which has no recoil, has without the burst delay the same rate of fire like the balacs and it has the old fancy scope on it. Just a hint regarding burst AR's: STD-ADV-PRO have all different rate of fires and the PRO variant is the fastest firing burst rifle in the game. Sadly i see barely any 1 with it. Ignorant fools. Before I switched to MD, I used to rock the GK burst and the Allotek. At least until stacked damage mods and CoD run and gun tactics ruined any reason to do so. Bursts are by far superior, but people want to strafe left and right at point blank while praying and spraying their damage modded bullets.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 134	Posted - 2013.04.26 04:14:00 - [20] - Quote Wow, even the mods are in on the conspiracy. Way to change the tile.

Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 137	Posted - 2013.04.26 05:08:00 - [21] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily. The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. Best troll turned serious discussion turned AR elitist butthurt fest thread ever!
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 137	Posted - 2013.04.26 05:14:00 - [22] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily. The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. no one really use the heavy any more, it's getting lonely but everyone wants to nerf the heavy more Once uprising comes out, people will be QQing to nerf sentinels.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 137	Posted - 2013.04.26 05:25:00 - [23] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Cosgar wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: This has gone too far. When I use an AR some a-hole with sharpshooter laser gets me. When I use an AR, an HMG across the map can out dps me. When I use an ar and a shotgun come near he kills me way too easily. The point is, the AR is a hugely underpowered weapon and needs a major buff in damage, range, and recoil decrease The scope needs to return, and the tac rifle needs a damage boost again. Yes. +1, not everyone uses an AR. I mean, come on, clearly it needs to be buffed. no one really use the heavy any more, it's getting lonely but everyone wants to nerf the heavy more Once uprising comes out, people will be QQing to nerf sentinels. I mean heavy is hard to use and less people are using it and it needs to be nerf more come on really Heavies are kind of fine as is right now, but prototype tier suits could use some work on slot allocations. I think I said this in a heavy thread a while back but they should've kept the huge HP pool they had from chromosome, but be targetable by AV weapons that scaled down for balance. But back to AR, they're supposed to be the jack of all trades, master of none weapon. Instead they're the end all be all because of all the skill synergies and damage mod stacking. It's been hinted they're getting rebalanced, but nobody (outside the CPM) will really know until the 6th.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 137	Posted - 2013.04.26 05:29:00 - [24] - Quote DigiOps wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DigiOps wrote: Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless. I guess it would depend on what got buffed. just like the heavy I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. Actually it will end up just like your tank test drives. SP skill, Player skill, and equipment levels are a huge factor in whatever class you play as. Also, militia heavy suits are made of toilet paper.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 137	Posted - 2013.04.26 05:47:00 - [25] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Cosgar wrote: DigiOps wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DigiOps wrote: Just my opinion, but I think the AR needs to continue to be mediocre at everything to avoid making other weapons, which are good for specific purposes and gameplay styles, near useless. I guess it would depend on what got buffed. just like the heavy I guess. Never dabbled with heavy dropsuits. Probably should grab some militia stuff and do a test drive. Hopefully it won't turn out as badly as my tank test drives. New appreciation for that. Actually it will end up just like your tank test drives. SP skill, Player skill, and equipment levels are a huge factor in whatever class you play as. Also, militia heavy suits are made of toilet paper. and with all the proto AR and LR,Shotguns and it's hard being a heavy You guys still dominate the **** out of bottlenecks and choke points. AR players dominate... everything else...
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 137	Posted - 2013.04.26 06:22:00 - [26] - Quote Man, you just made me realize something, with everything getting nerfed and buffed there's almost no balance in this game right now.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 137	Posted - 2013.04.26 07:23:00 - [27] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I love how everyone is -just now- saying the AR is over-powered when Uprising is less than two weeks from deployment. Thanks guys, could have totally used your support a month and a half ago when it actually mattered -_- We've all been talking about it ever since the CoDex build but AR elitists would derail these threads like crazy. I'm starting to wonder if this is the real meta game that we'll see in Dust.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 147	Posted - 2013.04.26 23:04:00 - [28] - Quote If there were a case of too much trolling, I think this would be it. Someone needs to make a serious AR nerf topic in the feedback forums btw...
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 147	Posted - 2013.04.26 23:30:00 - [29] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Thog A Kuma wrote: nothing needs anything until after the 6th. we know nothing. they say they touched every weapon, they re worked gameplay they messed with vehicle mechanics. we know nothing of how anything works in relation to everything else. this thread and most other threads on the forum are useless speculation. after the sixth we will have lots of premature QQing but at least they will have some facts...maybe. u realize this is a troll thread if not ur blind. obvious troll is obvious. Wasn't obvious to FotM scrubs and AR elitists. So it was successful in that regard. If you kept it about AR, you could have easily gotten another 15 pages.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 148	Posted - 2013.04.27 00:48:00 - [30] - Quote Getting kinda close to that threshold now....

Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 149	Posted - 2013.04.27 03:51:00 - [31] - Quote Aighun wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: I hope you all realized that this was a troll thread from the beginning. You win. Gongratulations you have won Dust 514. For now at least. Fool! Nobody wins Dust 514... we only survive...