DUST Search - AR NEEDS a Massive Nerf

Cosgar wrote:

BobThe843CakeMan wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

BobThe843CakeMan wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it.

it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :).

Your optimism is a adorable.

ur negativity is noted and u r a glass half empty kind of guy. Which means u don't believe the ar will get wat it deserves a nerf.

Actually, I'm a very optimistic person but being a customer of CCP for 5+ years has jaded me to being a pessimist when it comes to anything CCP related and being a customer of Sony for 20+ years just makes me jaded in general.

What's going to wind up happening is that even if AR does get their nerf, a new FotM with surface until that gets nerfed, but another FotM will resurface after that. It's an endless cycle that will continue until programmers stop being lazy and implement actual balance. Once that's achieved, Sony will be the checkov's gun to the whole story, forcing CCP to appeal to casuals in the end.

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BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 192	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:33:00 - [91] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: lego ninja wrote: My tactical sniper and scrambler pistol outclass the assault rifle. And lol attack in teams and you will die a lot less. ARs aren't broken, teams and strategy is. That's not the point, two militia war's shouldn't kill me that quick when I have a viziam equipped That's the problem! You need better armor and skills. You can't just fire a lazar rifle and expect to win with your armor. what? yes i can i whip out an ar and the laser losses as it's op. What about when the other team starts storming your side? You need to upgrade your armor first... i whip out an ar and i will win no matter what. it's op.
soulreaper73 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 5	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:34:00 - [92] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: lego ninja wrote: My tactical sniper and scrambler pistol outclass the assault rifle. And lol attack in teams and you will die a lot less. ARs aren't broken, teams and strategy is. That's not the point, two militia war's shouldn't kill me that quick when I have a viziam equipped That's the problem! You need better armor and skills. You can't just fire a lazar rifle and expect to win with your armor. what? yes i can i whip out an ar and the laser losses as it's op. What about when the other team starts storming your side? You need to upgrade your armor first... i dont need armor
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 193	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:39:00 - [93] - Quote all u need r shields and an ar and u when no armor required.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 981	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:42:00 - [94] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: all u need r shields and an ar and u when no armor required. 110% dmg to shields and 90% to armor, some armor would help... a little... very little
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 193	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:43:00 - [95] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: all u need r shields and an ar and u when no armor required. 110% dmg to shields and 90% to armor, some armor would help... a little... very little no armor slows u down so u will get hit more making tht 1 slight advantage opselete. :)
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 981	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:44:00 - [96] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: all u need r shields and an ar and u when no armor required. 110% dmg to shields and 90% to armor, some armor would help... a little... very little no armor slows u down so u will get hit more making tht 1 slight advantage opselete. :) ...Armor effing sucks! But most laser users don't move much anyway... so, ehh, idk.
WyrmHero1945 Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 138	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:45:00 - [97] - Quote It's not the AR it's light sharpshooter. I feel the same as you when a light sharpshooter proficiency AR kills me from across the map when I'm using the laser. This skill makes weapons ridiculous, not just the AR.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 193	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:46:00 - [98] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: all u need r shields and an ar and u when no armor required. 110% dmg to shields and 90% to armor, some armor would help... a little... very little no armor slows u down so u will get hit more making tht 1 slight advantage opselete. :) ...armor effing sucks! yes. yes it does.
hooc roht Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:48:00 - [99] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: hooc roht wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: also, buff dropsuit HP's, leave guns the same, game = fixed. You're welcome CCP. Dropsuits are OP. All weapons should be one ht one kill....some should have bigger splash damage. Do you think you're funny? No. I know I am funny.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 193	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:48:00 - [100] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: It's not the AR it's light sharpshooter. I feel the same as you when a light sharpshooter proficiency AR kills me from across the map when I'm using the laser. This skill makes weapons ridiculous, not just the AR. no it needs tht range to kill the snipers it needs more recoil and less damage for the third time. and laser needs even longer range than an ar maybe 200 meters. ar needs 130 meters. snipers have 1000 plus.

BASSMEANT ZionTCD 213	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:52:00 - [101] - Quote i figured out the problem and the answer to this whole situation. sorry it took so long. short answer: you guys really need to start doing your kegels. Peace B
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 195	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:54:00 - [102] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: i figured out the problem and the answer to this whole situation. sorry it took so long. short answer: you guys really need to start doing your kegels. Peace B congrats the 100th post to bad it's a bad post. cause it doesn't involve op ars.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 11	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:55:00 - [103] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Well, you'll be happy to know they're getting a buff in Uprising... and this is why they need to be nerfed now so when they get buffed they'll be the same op things they r now. sharpshooter will be taken away but a nerf is going a bit to far. what needs to be nerfed are the damage mods people stack them so much its rediculous blocking it to where one can be placed in a suit makes the proficiency skill a must. even when i had proficiency lvl 4 i still had to empty a clip and a half into a good heavy so no i disagree. im not an imp and not a hater on your post im just saying what i think the issue is. and you got alot of mag players like me who love the ar game it seems to be the only cqc in the game thats any fun when infact the games are fair and people arent sitting in the mcc. every gun has its goods and bads and every skill has its counter skill.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 157	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:56:00 - [104] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Well, you'll be happy to know they're getting a buff in Uprising... and this is why they need to be nerfed now so when they get buffed they'll be the same op things they r now. They said in the keynote that everything had been revamped and rebalanced
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 195	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:57:00 - [105] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Well, you'll be happy to know they're getting a buff in Uprising... and this is why they need to be nerfed now so when they get buffed they'll be the same op things they r now. sharpshooter will be taken away but a nerf is going a bit to far. what needs to be nerfed are the damage mods people stack them so much its rediculous blocking it to where one can be placed in a suit makes the proficiency skill a must. even when i had proficiency lvl 4 i still had to empty a clip and a half into a good heavy so no i disagree. im not an imp and not a hater on your post im just saying what i think the issue is. and you got alot of mag players like me who love the ar game it seems to be the only cqc in the game thats any fun when infact the games are fair and people arent sitting in the mcc. every gun has its goods and bads and every skill has its counter skill. wat are the cons of an ar then. tell me.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 195	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:57:00 - [106] - Quote Marston VC wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Well, you'll be happy to know they're getting a buff in Uprising... and this is why they need to be nerfed now so when they get buffed they'll be the same op things they r now. They said in the keynote that everything had been revamped and rebalanced \o/
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:59:00 - [107] - Quote Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 198	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:01:00 - [108] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it. it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :).
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 11	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:02:00 - [109] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Marston VC wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Well, you'll be happy to know they're getting a buff in Uprising... and this is why they need to be nerfed now so when they get buffed they'll be the same op things they r now. They said in the keynote that everything had been revamped and rebalanced \o/ building a suit worth a damn is the first thing, flux shield grenades, aiming, upping your ar game you know stuff like that. theres a differance in being killed by damage mods and a skilled player. i never use double damage mods and i spec into the skills that actually improve my game and defences and rarely die in matches a lazer is only op by range if someone kills you and ur lazor then this means you need to up your sharp shooter and its proficiency my friend.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:03:00 - [110] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it. it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :). Your optimism is a adorable.

ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 11	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:04:00 - [111] - Quote what im trying to say is nerfing them wont help as long as damage mods are stackable... take away the ability to stack damage mods and you have simple ar games where you wont think they are op. make the profiecency skill start being used.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 198	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:06:00 - [112] - Quote Cosgar wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it. it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :). Your optimism is a adorable. ur negativity is noted and u r a glass half empty kind of guy. Which means u don't believe the ar will get wat it deserves a nerf.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 198	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:06:00 - [113] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: what im trying to say is nerfing them wont help as long as damage mods are stackable... take away the ability to stack damage mods and you have simple ar games where you wont think they are op. make the profiecency skill start being used. u lower the base damage the less damage mods will do. problem fixed.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:12:00 - [114] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it. it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :). Your optimism is a adorable. ur negativity is noted and u r a glass half empty kind of guy. Which means u don't believe the ar will get wat it deserves a nerf. Actually, I'm a very optimistic person but being a customer of CCP for 5+ years has jaded me to being a pessimist when it comes to anything CCP related and being a customer of Sony for 20+ years just makes me jaded in general. What's going to wind up happening is that even if AR does get their nerf, a new FotM with surface until that gets nerfed, but another FotM will resurface after that. It's an endless cycle that will continue until programmers stop being lazy and implement actual balance. Once that's achieved, Sony will be the checkov's gun to the whole story, forcing CCP to appeal to casuals in the end.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 11	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:13:00 - [115] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: what im trying to say is nerfing them wont help as long as damage mods are stackable... take away the ability to stack damage mods and you have simple ar games where you wont think they are op. make the profiecency skill start being used. u lower the base damage the less damage mods will do . problem fixed. but to be honest the ar is not the issue alot of it has to also do with the quality of your net connection, how the servers are working, how well your suit is built, and how good at the tango you really are. you played against me before cakeman and never have i used stacked anything i just have a good are gun game some ppl exploit to be good instead of building the proper suit.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 201	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:14:00 - [116] - Quote Cosgar wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Rebalanced for who? CoD casuals? I'll believe this "rebalancing" when I see it. it better be rebalanced so all weapons have ups and downs even an ar. :). Your optimism is a adorable. ur negativity is noted and u r a glass half empty kind of guy. Which means u don't believe the ar will get wat it deserves a nerf. Actually, I'm a very optimistic person but being a customer of CCP for 5+ years has jaded me to being a pessimist when it comes to anything CCP related and being a customer of Sony for 20+ years just makes me jaded in general. What's going to wind up happening is that even if AR does get their nerf, a new FotM with surface until that gets nerfed, but another FotM will resurface after that. It's an endless cycle that will continue until programmers stop being lazy and implement actual balance. Once that's achieved, Sony will be the checkov's gun to the whole story, forcing CCP to appeal to casuals in the end. well to bad the ar needs a nerf. and we all know it.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 201	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:16:00 - [117] - Quote Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: Mine was better btw no it wasn't XD
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:18:00 - [118] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: well to bad the ar needs a nerf. and we all know it. Never said it didn't, just get ready to make a post about the next FotM. It's premature, but I'm going to say the next one will be Amarr Assault with Scrambler Rifle.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 11	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:19:00 - [119] - Quote nerfing weapons will only make the game ****** nerf the damn damage mods that seems to be the real issue. ive heard nerf this nerf that eventually ppl will run out of weapons to complain about then the next thing to be nerfed will be shield and armor modules. how about instead of worrying about the weapons we worry about why one year after this beta has been out we still get massive champion lag on certain maps, or how we still using the same maps or how we still dont have an options menu for selecting your other characters or how there isnt an eve to dust alliance connection or how there isnt a skill for boosting isk or how there isnt a store option to sell your salvage items whats the point of even earning salvage items if you cant skill everything to lvl 5 to use them if so ill have to wait some 30 years to do so. get my drift?
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 202	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:20:00 - [120] - Quote Cosgar wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: well to bad the ar needs a nerf. and we all know it. Never said it didn't, just get ready to make a post about the next FotM. It's premature, but I'm going to say the next one will be Amarr Assault with Scrambler Rifle. ur probably right.



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