This thread shows the complete lack of understanding of how even basic program developmentr works. go download the xna framework and try and make Pac man or space invaders and then come back here screaming that the devs are lasy. I might rant at ccp but I do it because they have not delivered what was promised. Not because they are lasy

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Multi-tiered game modes (like Acquisition and Domination in MAG) that require several stages of objectives to cap/destroy/etc are MUCH better)
Gives more to do in match, and adds much more depth than the stale TDM (ambush) and COD Domination/BF Conquest (skirmish)

Why couldn't you hold your rant for two weeks?

I mean seriously, two weeks. The new release will be out that day. We have read, although you might not have considering your post, about Uprising and the many, many changes including some different modes of play. UI changes, a new Battle Finder, bugs fixed, Planetary Conquest, the one control point map and the extensive Skill Tree reworking along with new weapons.

But no, your spew bucket filled up and you had to spew.

Now why would CCP do something that? It just makes too much sense for PC that you would have a game mode like DOM where there is an obvious defender and attacker. There is a 'front line' of defenses and the attacker needs to push through to gain the objective. Why, if CCP did that, people might actually like the game and stop sticking around for months on end in hopes that it might get better until they find out its 10 years later.

^ You write that on your phone or something (steadyhand amarr)?

The simplest solution is to take liberally all elements from MAG, and I am not even joking. CCP would do extremely well to wholeheartedly copy gameplay elements and just reskin them for DUST.

Thats not even a wish. I am being completely honest and sayig that DUST would instantly become better and NO ONE woild complain of the additions being "borrowed".

Well, I would plead to just 'borrow' from MAG. There isn't going to be a MAG2 for a reason....because MAG was fun ONLY because it was different from CoD, BF, Halo, Killzone, Resistance, Rainbow SIx, etc. The main difference being the scale/size of the battles. MAG kept peoples interest for about 6 months before a good majority went right back to the games they can trust to deliver every time.

If there is to be no MAG2, and MAG doesn't have 50-100 thousand online right now, then MAG is a replay value failure.

At the same time, how original can a company be when it comes to creating a new game mode? Just about everything that anybody can come up with will be a variation of something that has been done by a FPS already. If CCP comes up with something original, then that's awesome.

That's why I think the success of DUST will rely entirely on how involved EVERYONE can be in PC and to what extent. If people are expected to 'swallow their pride' and join a bigger corp after they have invested time/money/etc. into the corp that they have been building, then most of them will likely 'swallow their pride' and go play a better game.

Everyone in this thread should check the recording of the Twitch stream from today.

Among other things, they confirmed that it won't be too much longer before we see the Gladiator suite which will include all the "traditional" FPS modes, as well as that they'll be talking about where they're going for nullsec and increasing player counts and available map size.

You just said it buddy. On PC.. The FPS central force. (Albeit it has slow down since consoles went full FPS) Compared to The myriad of FPS on the PC, it actually looks worse then on console. I see dust retaining or gathering more mmorpg crowd then the fps folks.

For those that are saying that the game needs to get easier to hold the casual crowd I say that is what PvE is for and agree we need that asap if this game wants to retain a strong player base.


I have a good feeling that they will show PVE at fanfest but they need to start looking at game modes in a serious way or no.amount of structures will hide the fact that the game is repetitive.

You just said it buddy. On PC.. The FPS central force. (Albeit it has slow down since consoles went full FPS) Compared to The myriad of FPS on the PC, it actually looks worse then on console. I see dust retaining or gathering more mmorpg crowd then the fps folks.

i think that CCP's target audience is the casual gamers the ones who like capture the flag, free for all, domination, and team deathmatchs (you know COD fans).

which is why i support the gladiator arena so much becasue it satisfies those players who want simple things for fps, but for people board with simple minded modes we would have planetary conquest or faction warfare where Dust is harder and provides a war like conquering feeling ,along with complex game modes of course.

for example say the noobs or COD player or what ever you call it is a infant. Now the Dust vets are adults. You would give that infant rattle or some simple baby toy to play with. Now as the child gets older from infant to toddler to small child that rattle isnt going to entertain them anymore ,so you get them a big better toy to play with and so on. It wouldnt be a smart idea to give a infant a six pack of beer and tell it to have fun nor will it be a good idea to have a 20 year old playing with a rattle still.

first you have to cater to the new bloods then when bordom hits (like in most fps) let them explore the deapth of the game.

i hope there is a major difference between PC and skirmish. i hope when they try PC they say GÇ¥crap thats hardGÇ£. i hope that the imperfects conquer half of new eden.

im just not sure how CCP is going to retain the noobs coming in.

unrelated: if CCP neededs a new innovative game mode then it will probably be made in the gladiator arena