Obviously not. Nonetheless, this council really holds no legitimacy. About half the council members hardly ever play. Furthermore, Ironwolfs self-induced smugness only further confirms my doubts.

So according to you the top 10 players should be part of council then? People who call you a scrub every day Regnum?

You vilify my genuine concern. And then you filter it out. And then you accuse me of being against the community for DARING to question CCP? You were one of my preferred candidates and now you have me extremely worried.

Obviously not. Nonetheless, this council really holds no legitimacy. About half the council members hardly ever play. Furthermore, Ironwolfs self-induced smugness only further confirms my doubts.

The best players tend to know the mechanics at the deepest levels. It makes at least as much sense as electing them.

The best players tend to know the mechanics at the deepest levels. It makes at least as much sense as electing them.

Well, CPM was hand picked so that they could, as one of their main tasks, figure out how we go about picking the more in your words "legitimate" CPM of the future.

One vote per PSN id will never work because any player can have unlimited PSN ids. So that sort of system is vulnerable to the kind of manipulation 4 Chan used to make the "Dub the Dew" campaign such a memorable success.

Question remains, if a vote confers legitimacy, how do we vote for the CPM?

So according to you the top 10 players should be part of council then? People who call you a scrub every day Regnum?

Check and mate well played noc +1

Can we please just stop with the leading statements.

Anyways, I really don't think you want hear my personal requirements.

However, what I expect from CPM is people who have dedication and commitment to the game.

Lastly, ReGnUM and scrub in the same sentence is a English error.

Its only a checkmate when one side stalls, but since you want to get involved explain to me why the top player of Dust 514 would want to help you? The same guy likely to call you a blueberry and not a team player?

Because you have set up the entire conversation with an ulterior motive Noc, there is no reason why you couldn't ask a straight question. You give me crooked questions I will play with vague answers.

Un-true look at aldin khan.... since the first few builds I have watched him play with literally every dropsuite and weapon and vehicle. Their should be one representetive from each "class" and vehicle class to support and provide info to CCP about said class or vehicle.

I am a proponent of negative method of debate. That's not an ulterior motive, that is simple preferences.

Well don't blame me if I don't understand your rules on that side of the board.

I am a Japanese after all, takes a hammer sometimes to get to the point if you go all flowery with words.

Well then, to that definition and to your earlier question combined.

I know whatever hell system I help come up with, is going to be abused no matter what by future CPM. I will purposely look for flaws in systems when they're presented and bring them to light. After all i love tearing things apart. None the less it won't be perfect, it will never be perfect, and no matter what I do, it cannot be perfect.

All I can hope for is to move the entire process to a more prefect representation, to make it known perfection will always be out of reach.

I know the above statement sounds like alot of BS, but honestly until I get more information from CCP I have no idea how to make a good voter system without it.

But you are saying you are strongly predisposed to a system that is fundamentally a representative democracy? That is the foundation that you moor your opinion on?

A lottery system cant work most of the lottery results will be a negative as most people wont have passports or other minimal requirements.

A heir system wouldn't be useful either it would lead to too many ass kissers.

Communism ( I guess current system) would be great but as you can see with Regnum many many others they're going to continue to feel disenfranchised because the people who got picked are CCP kissers.

Autocracity wouldn't work either you'd have to many ego heads.

Democracy or a Republic are the only options I see feasible in giving you guys a voice, the ability to get rid of useless people, and ensure quality of CPM members that do get seated.

A lottery system cant work most of the lottery results will be a negative as most people wont have passports or other minimal requirements.

A heir system wouldn't be useful either it would lead to too many ass kissers.

Communism ( I guess current system) would be great but as you can see with Regnum many many others they're going to continue to feel disenfranchised because the people who got picked are CCP kissers.

Autocracity wouldn't work either you'd have to many ego heads.

Democracy or a Republic are the only options I see feasible in giving you guys a voice, the ability to get rid of useless people, and ensure quality of CPM members that do get seated.

Crowd sourcing as pointed out by Noc is a viable solution as well. But it's not perfect either because what they gain in shared public knowledge and ideas, they lose out in time spent trying to resolve things. This loss of time will be detrimental to the development of a console or PC game.

Technocracy is a form of autocracy as well cept smarter people.

Crowd Sourcing would be a good advisory board for the CPM though and that's where it can work.

I have to say that crowd-sourced as the CPM would be a bad idea overall due to the nature of CPMs requirement to know things on business level involving CCP, stuff that rival companies could steal and take advantage of especially if they have larger development teams. Discussions with Hans has proven that much so far and crowd-sourcing would lead to too many leaks.

I forgot about this.

Considering that CCP's key rivals in the MMO industry is Blizzard and BioWare and its rivals in the FPS industry will be EA and many others, this will play an important factor as trust is key to the development of a game. Remember, CCP will be sharing information with the members that is considered confidential and therefore we have to make sure that the members are morally sound in the minds in respecting that trust.