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Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:-------
This post just shows why you're the most inadequate candidate that CCP selected. The 20 paragraphs of "I'mma try to do my job" somehow wasn't very interesting.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3563
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:13:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:------- This post just shows why you're the most inadequate candidate that CCP selected. The 20 paragraphs of "I'mma try to do my job" somehow wasn't very interesting.
Would a steel toe boot up your posterior suffice then? |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
55
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:charlesnette dalari wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:I really did not want to be "that guy", but since you are in quality of representation of the CPM, I believe you need to avoid spelling and grammar mistakes.
The word "bi-standards", though a correctly spelled compound word, is not the one that you wanted to use. Instead, the word you were trying to use was "bystander".
Bad show, Iron Wolf Saber... bad show....
That aside, you really need to get one of the forum monkeys to make one darn RP forum. To think such a thing would be so difficult to accomplish... ugh. I hope you are trolling and not Sirius (see what I did there?) I would rather iron wolf spend his time engaging the community rather than grammer checking his device's spell checker. Kiso has a point I can't afford a bad grammar mistake leading to offense of many, also words I spew out will be translated to other languages. WHAT!?!?! I am quite serious about that, there are people who love this game just as much as you and I do but they're not native English. I at least browse though with google translate once a week.
Yep, this is exactly what I was subtly implying. (And what charlesnette dalari seemed to have missed. Too subtle?) One bad auto-correct or grammatically incorrect sentence, and he'll be a walking meme, and he might get trolled or "bullied" about it. A mistranslation will change the meaning of his post because of one word (or two) not being there or incorrectly misplaced.
"Presentation" is a keyword on "representation". And the better you present yourself and what you represent, the clearer the message will be, and the easier it will be for others to not misunderstand.
CCP has failed at this many times, and they have gotten a lot of 'blasting' for it. Let's not add one more person to that group. |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
443
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:32:00 -
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Please push for them to take more risks during the beta period.
I hope people like you can help keep this game from going too simple and CoD like, and keep it rich and complex as some of us want. We want the rabbit hole to go deep.
Push for opening item trades and any kind of ISK transfers. These are some of the things that the community have come to New Eden for. |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
34
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:------- This post just shows why you're the most inadequate candidate that CCP selected. The 20 paragraphs of "I'mma try to do my job" somehow wasn't very interesting. Would a steel toe boot up your posterior suffice then?
there's the iron in ironwolf |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3565
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:35:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Please push for them to take more risks during the beta period. I hope people like you can help keep this game from going too simple and CoD like, and keep it rich and complex as some of us want. We want the rabbit hole to go deep. Push for opening item trades and any kind of ISK transfers. These are some of the things that the community have come to New Eden for.
There are few of those things that will have to wait, I am sure some of the older beta testers here remembered the days that eve online was able to give dust 514 isk.
There where battles with 8 Fully fitted Sagaris where being given out and it was real bad. |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
34
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:charlesnette dalari wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:I really did not want to be "that guy", but since you are in quality of representation of the CPM, I believe you need to avoid spelling and grammar mistakes.
The word "bi-standards", though a correctly spelled compound word, is not the one that you wanted to use. Instead, the word you were trying to use was "bystander".
Bad show, Iron Wolf Saber... bad show....
That aside, you really need to get one of the forum monkeys to make one darn RP forum. To think such a thing would be so difficult to accomplish... ugh. I hope you are trolling and not Sirius (see what I did there?) I would rather iron wolf spend his time engaging the community rather than grammer checking his device's spell checker. Kiso has a point I can't afford a bad grammar mistake leading to offense of many, also words I spew out will be translated to other languages. WHAT!?!?! I am quite serious about that, there are people who love this game just as much as you and I do but they're not native English. I at least browse though with google translate once a week.
and i have looked at the non-english forums and they're petifully small, so assumed CCP's main audience was english speaking countries (presumptious? yes incorrect? no) |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3565
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:39:00 -
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Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote:
and i have looked at the non-english forums and they're petifully small, so assumed CCP's main audience was english speaking countries (presumptious? yes incorrect? no)
Majority or not, their voices still be need to be heard.
I ran across an interesting suggestion from the japanese section asking for animal bodies the other players replied that would be impossible because we in New Eden have no idea what those animals look like as none of them survived. |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
448
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Posted - 2013.04.20 07:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:------- This post just shows why you're the most inadequate candidate that CCP selected. The 20 paragraphs of "I'mma try to do my job" somehow wasn't very interesting. Would a steel toe boot up your posterior suffice then?
Whoa, definitely not into that kind of kinky stuff. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens EoN.
131
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Posted - 2013.04.20 07:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So here we are, a selected War Council, Hand Picked by CCP, without your vote, without your consent CCP could sit there and argue why or who they picked and some people are going to be either rolling their eyes in disregard or foaming at the mouth mad blathering incoherent streams of hate and ire for months on end. Some are going to remember I was part of the Council of Planetary Management formed up of player interests and no official sanctioning or interference and are going to continue to knife me with that. Some will continue to hate me for it or think somehow that being in IRC and the CPM has had a special privilege in my selection. There are those who are simply going to hate me because they don't understand my relationship inside the Betamax corp. I don't think I should be going into details but I think the community needs to know that when CCP contacted me for the CPM they pointed out the dedication in keeping people informed and helping them along in the beta on the forums alone was why they tapped me, not the fake CPM, not the IRC chatter, and certainly not the artwork or roleplay. When the announcement blog of the WC was going to form, quite a a few of you 'voted' for me in the replies and even outside Dust 514 I picked up mutterings of me being likely on the council. So whatever I was doing it was enough for me to say 'Yes' when CCP asked, and from there I worked my posterior off to make up for the week of college I will be missing for this year's Fanfest. Either way the CPM is seated and the favorite pub stomper isn't and there isn't much anyone can change about that for now. What is done however is done. This leaves the community on what has to get done next As a CPM member I have to take on the roles found similarly to the Eve Council of Stellar Management. While I don't know entirely all those roles are yet, the meeting at 2013 Fanfest will help with this and I thank Hans for sitting in to help with the transition and founder issues. It is going to be work. Its not going to be fun and games. It is a serious position to which I have to thank the player CPM for help train me a bit in and the community's vote of confidence. "Either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!" -Ted Turner CCP's 2013 next decade discussion talks about instigators, followers and bystanders. Not everyone can be an instigator, I can see why, its quite a bit of work to find that special flame to breathe into an inferno. Then there are followers, they see that flame and follow it. Then the by-standards... the guys that don't pay attention. I am more of a follower myself, not because I want to bask in the glory of that pyre but to see other people do so. I like observing, planning, and seeing things work and flow. If battlefield commander role was on dust 514, you just got yourself a general. None the less I would love to see this game grow, evolve, and start putting other titles to shame as they seek out their next sequels while Dust will never get its own sequel for it will never be needed. I will not be changing much other than my ability to 'speculate' will be severely restricted. Also any progress that is covered by the NDA will be maddeningly annoying me as I have to keep muzzled on the best juicy bits until CCP says it on the IRC or blog and I will have to start quoting directly from now on it would seem. This may also seem I have to hand my sources over too :( I will still continue to trawl though the threads every day, looking for a pattern in complaints, verifying with independent data, research and interviews and present them to CCP. I will still continue to play the game when time allows for it, I will still help out in responses when possible. Because not only do I like this game I have the best aspirations for it. I want this game to turn into the sandbox shooter it deserves to be. I want more sand, more tools in that sandbox I want to see other players making sandcastles and kicking them down. Then seeing clever players putting landmines in those sandcastles. I want to see that box removed one day, I want to give you guys the whole beach, and hell while we are at it the ocean too. My idea's of Dust 514's growth and expansion is probably just as crazy or nearly competing with CCP's own 10 years of planning. I have a pretty good idea which features are foundations and which are just decorations. While I feel that all 10 years worth of features are important, I know that CCP are only human and they can only generate content so fast. The features picked today have to be carefully weighed against the future. I would like for you players to enjoy the game as much as possible as well, make it inviting to come back time after time even when the latest shine of the latest Call of Zombies wears off, New Eden will still be here waiting for you to come back. Maybe one day you realize Dust 514 has ruined all other shooters for you. I may be mean in my responses but only because I have either over heard it or believe you didn't think it out enough, but make no mistake I am still always listening, considerate, and compromising. As long as you have enough respect for yourself to present your idea in a sound and clear conscious I will give you my respect for it. In the next weeks the issues will continue to be pressed forward and CCP will be doing most of the steering, but I will still listen and still chip in when possible based on what I read from you guys on the forums and on the field. We will finish this game Together. Hunt Well, Iron Wolf Saber, <^`-'^> pfft
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
77
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Posted - 2013.04.20 09:25:00 -
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Good man, you deserve this. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3574
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Posted - 2013.04.20 13:27:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Please push for them to take more risks during the beta period. I hope people like you can help keep this game from going too simple and CoD like, and keep it rich and complex as some of us want. We want the rabbit hole to go deep. Push for opening item trades and any kind of ISK transfers. These are some of the things that the community have come to New Eden for.
I will be questioning about development pace when I get to meet CCP.
I believe there does need to be a kiddy side of the pool still, right now its like one step and drown, but I want a gradual deepening from the kiddy to the unlimited side of the pool and pointing directions to the deeper end. |
ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds
Imperfects Public Relations
29
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Posted - 2013.04.20 13:29:00 -
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No respect for someone who has more likes on the forums then kills in the game |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3575
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Posted - 2013.04.20 13:32:00 -
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ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:No respect for someone who has more likes on the forums then kills in the game
You do know my likes didn't get reset last wipe. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1170
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Posted - 2013.04.20 13:36:00 -
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The only CPM member I honestly have any faith in at all. Cheers. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S.
189
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Posted - 2013.04.20 13:55:00 -
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Am I the only one that had the thought cross their mind that Iron wolf made the cut just so CCP could gag order him without seeming like tyrants. :)
good luck, I don't envy you. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
494
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Posted - 2013.04.20 14:07:00 -
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Congratulations, Iron Wolf. When I saw the line up for CPM 0 I thought it totally made sense. I'm glad to see that CCP decided to move forward with the Council sooner rather than later. If there is anything you guys need help with feel free to ask.
~~ Reav |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3577
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Posted - 2013.04.20 14:29:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Congratulations, Iron Wolf. When I saw the line up for CPM 0 I thought it totally made sense. I'm glad to see that CCP decided to move forward with the Council sooner rather than later. If there is anything you guys need help with feel free to ask.
~~ Reav
Yeah I am current building a roster of people I want to tap for information soon as the townhalls start up. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1078
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Posted - 2013.04.20 15:04:00 -
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his sexual favor list starts at fanfest!
Wait.. thats nova...
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2561
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Posted - 2013.04.20 15:15:00 -
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I've only skim-read the OP, and the same goes for most of the longer (more than a few lines) posts in the thread. I have a headache, so I'm not up for full focus right now. But in spite of that, I think I mostly figured out what's going on.
Only got one thing to say for now.... IWS, I beleive you're a good choice for the beta CPM, because I think you'll be a valuable asset when deciding a valid and fair method of voting for future CPMs. |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
912
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Posted - 2013.04.20 15:15:00 -
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Nice OP, well throught out. I hope you can be the CPM we need though. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
116
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Posted - 2013.04.20 16:01:00 -
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Congrats, you have good posts, and you are a asset for us in Dust514, stay cool man, and do ask the right questions and work for all of us.
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charlesnette dalari
Creative Killers
190
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Posted - 2013.04.20 16:09:00 -
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Kiso Okami wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:charlesnette dalari wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:I really did not want to be "that guy", but since you are in quality of representation of the CPM, I believe you need to avoid spelling and grammar mistakes.
The word "bi-standards", though a correctly spelled compound word, is not the one that you wanted to use. Instead, the word you were trying to use was "bystander".
Bad show, Iron Wolf Saber... bad show....
That aside, you really need to get one of the forum monkeys to make one darn RP forum. To think such a thing would be so difficult to accomplish... ugh. I hope you are trolling and not Sirius (see what I did there?) I would rather iron wolf spend his time engaging the community rather than grammer checking his device's spell checker. Kiso has a point I can't afford a bad grammar mistake leading to offense of many, also words I spew out will be translated to other languages. I am quite serious about that, there are people who love this game just as much as you and I do but they're not native English. I at least browse though with google translate once a week. Yep, this is exactly what I was subtly implying. (And what charlesnette dalari seemed to have missed. Too subtle?) One bad auto-correct or grammatically incorrect sentence, and he'll be a walking meme, and he might get trolled or "bullied" about it. A mistranslation will change the meaning of his post because of one word (or two) not being there or incorrectly misplaced. "Presentation" is a keyword on "representation". And the better you present yourself and what you represent, the clearer the message will be, and the easier it will be for others to not misunderstand. CCP has failed at this many times, and they have gotten a lot of 'blasting' for it. Let's not add one more person to that group.
I missed nothing and quite frankly your initial post was rude in your attempt to be subtle as you put it. If your true intention was to be helpful to iron wolf you sure didn't sound like it in your first post. You actually sounded like the troll or bully you are saying you are trying to warn him of.
You are quite right about presentation and you failed in presenting your first post as trying to be helpful since I took it completely differently and without your second post I am sure I wouldnt be the only one since it was condescending in nature.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
298
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Posted - 2013.04.20 16:31:00 -
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As will be stated to all CPM members, I couldn't have wished for a better start with you girls and guys!
/c |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3585
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Posted - 2013.04.20 16:33:00 -
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charlesnette dalari wrote: I missed nothing and quite frankly your initial post was rude in your attempt to be subtle as you put it. If your true intention was to be helpful to iron wolf you sure didn't sound like it in your first post. You actually sounded like the troll or bully you are saying you are trying to warn him of.
You are quite right about presentation and you failed in presenting your first post as trying to be helpful since I took it completely differently and without your second post I am sure I wouldnt be the only one since it was condescending in nature.
But I do know Kiso enough to know that he meant well, sometimes familiarization does allow for some abrasion. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1305
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:36:00 -
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What are your opinions on how the CPM should be structured moving forward. Is a representative body even necessary in today's age of ubiquitous instant communication? What benefit do you provide to making my interests known to CCP? |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
703
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:aden slayer wrote:as long as you keep feeding us information. I live with that. I have to be careful what I feed out. I have to source everything from now on. I can no longer predicatively guess or actively go out and find things anymore.
Which, assuming that I don't get too depressed about the sandbox, is where I come in.
No, seriously, I'm glad you're in and your datamining (and Mith's) are far beyond my poor power to add or detract. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3606
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:14:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:What are your opinions on how the CPM should be structured moving forward. Is a representative body even necessary in today's age of ubiquitous instant communication? What benefit do you provide to making my interests known to CCP?
I am with Nova Knife on getting the CPM to be able to self police on people doing work and the sorts instead of getting free rides in the group.
For structure, I would like to bring up the ambassador topic up, and maybe set up regular meetings with the CSM as well to at least exchange glances or ask each other questions. The only thing I would like the ambassador to do is to be flown to the other group's meeting with the devs. This would make appointing a chairman and secretary and or whatever other seat needed on the council less stressful on the few who may only be good enough to just be a CPM and can't get that little bit more. After all its one universe two countries.
I would like to see a reasonable number of representatives, I do not think we need 14 members yet but 5 seems too few, maybe 7 should be enough coverage for a while with a few more on standby.
As for voting I have to see what CCP is capable of providing or tracking to determine who gets to vote or not. Just right now I cannot formulate anything fair at the moment but after observing the current eve online election I am not going with that system at all. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1305
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:What are your opinions on how the CPM should be structured moving forward. Is a representative body even necessary in today's age of ubiquitous instant communication? What benefit do you provide to making my interests known to CCP? I am with Nova Knife on getting the CPM to be able to self police on people doing work and the sorts instead of getting free rides in the group. For structure, I would like to bring up the ambassador topic up, and maybe set up regular meetings with the CSM as well to at least exchange glances or ask each other questions. The only thing I would like the ambassador to do is to be flown to the other group's meeting with the devs. This would make appointing a chairman and secretary and or whatever other seat needed on the council less stressful on the few who may only be good enough to just be a CPM and can't get that little bit more. After all its one universe two countries. I would like to see a reasonable number of representatives, I do not think we need 14 members yet but 5 seems too few, maybe 7 should be enough coverage for a while with a few more on standby. As for voting I have to see what CCP is capable of providing or tracking to determine who gets to vote or not. Just right now I cannot formulate anything fair at the moment but after observing the current eve online election I am not going with that system at all.
Why do you assume the customers need a body like the CSM between themselves and the company? What benefit does a democratic representative provide that a direct line of communication could not?
In other words, why are you envisioning the CPM would be anything like the CSM at all? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3606
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:35:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:What are your opinions on how the CPM should be structured moving forward. Is a representative body even necessary in today's age of ubiquitous instant communication? What benefit do you provide to making my interests known to CCP? I am with Nova Knife on getting the CPM to be able to self police on people doing work and the sorts instead of getting free rides in the group. For structure, I would like to bring up the ambassador topic up, and maybe set up regular meetings with the CSM as well to at least exchange glances or ask each other questions. The only thing I would like the ambassador to do is to be flown to the other group's meeting with the devs. This would make appointing a chairman and secretary and or whatever other seat needed on the council less stressful on the few who may only be good enough to just be a CPM and can't get that little bit more. After all its one universe two countries. I would like to see a reasonable number of representatives, I do not think we need 14 members yet but 5 seems too few, maybe 7 should be enough coverage for a while with a few more on standby. As for voting I have to see what CCP is capable of providing or tracking to determine who gets to vote or not. Just right now I cannot formulate anything fair at the moment but after observing the current eve online election I am not going with that system at all. Why do you assume the customers need a body like the CSM between themselves and the company? What benefit does a democratic representative provide that a direct line of communication could not? In other words, why are you envisioning the CPM would be anything like the CSM at all?
Because of human nature. Looking at real world elections and the virtual ones its quite common that undeserving people get elected all the time.
As for the CSM I am concerned about eve customers and dust 514 customers, I don't want things to kill either game because of the other game. |
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