Sure OK.

Next; AV should require teamwork.

Your post was fine until this appeared, And the exageration was just too strong.

Im running advanced swarms (Level 3 Swarm Launcher Skill) and to take a Gunlogi your going to need more than one (Madrugars i can solo). Or a lucky position were you can get above the tank an rain Packed AV nades on it. Both situations in Ambush maps arent very frequent.

If you play Skirmish 24/7 then ofcoarse your going to get the tank if its not well equiped or does something stupid, in ambush with the bad spawns its one sided.

Dropship is to LAV.......... This Post is irrelevant. Wait 'till Gunships, Jets & Mechs hit & you will realize how utterly ignorant you sound today.

I can't believe I'm replying to this and resurrecting it, but:

Lone tanking is very risky, and while you can pull it off some of the time, you will lose many vehicles.

Solo AV'ing is risky, and while you'll pull off kills some of the time, you'll lose many vehicles that get away.F

Teamwork buffs both sides. Feature working as intendedGäó

Already implemented.

Next: Posting should require thinking.

What people dont get is that the turret on dropships are inaccurate cause the driver/gunner position is seperated and causes some serious accuracy problems. on tanks however the turret allways hits regardless if moving or not. And dont forget that small blasters do have splash damage. Just wait till i rain death from above. Well having to decide if you go full on infantry or full on vehicles has some advantages. Like beeing aible to ditch all infantry related skills and put them into other vehicles.

Already implemented.

Next: Posting should require thinking.

Either you're upset at the moment, and expressing your feelings without thinking them through, or you're just terrible at driving a tank. There is literally no other way you would actually believe what you just said. Maybe you should try a different specialization. Try playing AV for some perspective.

Fun fact, it takes more SP to get to logistics LAV than it does to the current highest tier tanks.

Its funny that you never see LAV or dropship users complaining. Why is that? They take just as much SP and ISK to use as tanks, and are pretty much just support units. They can die super easy (neither have the PGU to use heavy shield or armor and dropships are much easier to get LOS on).

Why do tanks complain that their killing machines are quite as effecient bang for buck as it could be, but LAV and Dropship users dont mind spending just as much SP and ISK to simply be a support role and have fun?

What tankers need to realize is you arent going to get a 1:1 ratio in SP/ISK investment to game impact. The reason being, that system would make it impossible for new players to compete.

A proto suit worth 10X as much as my starter gear is still easy for me to kill if I get the drop. So despite the fact that a smart tanker who is constantly mobile is pretty much immortal in the current game, tankers still complain that a 70K unit can kill their 500k? Well duh. Someones 200K proto suit easily dies by my free starter gear if I play right. Plus, the tank usually at least has enough time to react, headshots from my scrambler pistol will kill most proto suits before they can even do ANYTHING AT ALL.

This game is not meant for you to be able to BUY your way to victory. You buy an advantage, which tanks OBVIOUSLY have.

Know what would be fair? if it required similar SP or ISK investment in AV to take down a tank. If I've got 4m sp into tanks it should take that much in AV to kill me. Thats like what, 4 Proto AV?

A lot of gou guys are talking theoretics. Sure, on paper it taakes 4-5 shots forge shots.....or, maybe 6 proto grenades, or 4-5 flux grenades, etc to destroy a tank. But it is easier said than done.

A good tanker isn't going to sit there and allow you to hit him. They drive around....they use cover. Ok, as a forge gunner, you have to find a good elevated spot or runn close to the tank. With grenades...you have to get close enough to the tank and hope the tank doesn't kill you. For swarm launchers and forges, you are vulnerable to infantry. It is not easy., in the slightest, to kill a good tank with a good tank driver. You may die 3 or 4 times in the process. In order for that tank to go boom really fast....you need teamwork.

And that is my point....I don't want the powers at be to read posts like these and be misinformed.

Forge Gun Operations 5 621,840 SP
Forge Gun Proficiency 5 1,554,600
Heavy weapon upgrade 5 932,000 SP
Heavy weapons upgrade Prof 5 1,865,520
Grenadier level 4 621,840 SP

That is 4.6 mill without a suit, armor, armor repairers and any other modules you choose to fit.

So when you consider that i have less health, less mobility, can be attacked by small arms fire, can be run over by LAVs, etc. How exactly is it unfair for me to work over a standard tank?

Tankers need to accept the fact that they are not the only specialists in Dust. Some people have specced right into AV with the sole intention of ripping vehicles apart.

I would LOVE if it took that much SP to counter me. as it stands, it only takes the 621k to FGO to 5 to get advanced level AV which is all that's required.

EDIT:
Weaponry (1x) Level 5
Forge Gun Operation (2x) Level 2

That's all it takes to get Assault Forge Guns. Just Sayin.

If one guy with a standard assault forge can kill you, you are not a tanker, and should go infantry on the respec.

Just because you have wasted SP on tanks skills doesn't mean that you know what you are doing.

Which if you are getting popped by solo forge gunners who haven't spent a boatload of SP is exactly what is the case.

Learn to tank before you complain about AV.

LOL! Agree with YDubbs and General here. The engagement is weighted considerably to the tanks advantage (as it should be) i've willingly died countless times to add to the damage on a tank--most have. Most AV specialists will die multiple times in the pursuit of a tank kill. Tell me more about this fantasy world where the mere sight of the slowest soldier on the battlefield causes tanks to run in fear...

Complaining about one fat suit with a tier 2 assault forge?

MY GOD. Please make yourself useful, pick up a sniper rifle and find the nearest red line.

Mathmatically, I dont remotely understand how the jump from standard to advanced forge could be that different. Its like a few 100 HP. Against a unit that has what, 8K? EDIT: I mean, i get the difference between standard versus assault, assault clealry does a signifigant amount of DPS more than standard. But how much more per shot does a higher teir assault do?