Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair.

TLDR at bottom.

TLDR: I think its a great thing to have 3 different ways to play the game, and I also think all 3 ways are open to all player, don't look at is as something impossible to set up, because its not impossible, its very possible for you to use any of the 3 ways to play the game. You just have to plan out how to set up this method of control for your own situation. If you're playing on a military base and using a shared console maybe the KB/m isnt available, but the PS move might be an alternative, don't knock it til you try it, its basically a motion sensor mouse.

Not everyone can play with a xim edge, hori turbo controller, an xbox controller on a ps3, a playstation move, a custom ds3, eagle eye, madcatz, nostromo, etc etc etc etc.


Really weak excuse.


KB/M is a cheaper combined peripheral than a brand new DS3.

Why do people like you keep bringing price into this, price is a small factor.

yeah thats what i was saying i sound like that? no i dont, im not sending you no messages and i haven't accused you of hacking.

Good one, Rei Shepard. I especially loved the part when you told us all how terribad DUST is with KBM. It almost sounded like you were fighting uphill battle here and making the game harder for yourself by using KBM! Congrats on being hardcore, man! /s

Good one, Rei Shepard. I especially loved the part when you told us all how terribad DUST is with KBM. It almost sounded like you were fighting uphill battle here and making the game harder for yourself by using KBM! Congrats on being hardcore, man! /s


Except everybody who has FPS KBM experience and tried using KBM in DUST knows it's easy mode. Why? Instant sidestepping, super-easy aiming, "turning on a dime" etc. I've had over 10 years of FPS experience on PC, tried KBM on DUST, it's laughable how easy it is to kill DS3 users. So maybe stop BSing, mkay?

And BTW you can tell that somebody is using KBM really easy after facing them, stop kidding yourself. You're at mechanical advantage against everybody who plays on a DS3 and it's visible in your movement patterns during combat and in fire proficiency. Telling people to move to game that doesn't support KBM? And mentioning Eagle Eye? You know your stuff, man. I'd bet a fiver that you use aimbots in games that do not restrict this kind of toys, because "it's all in the the game" right? Stay classy.


I don't want to be misunderstood here -- use whatever you like. Just know what you are -- a sad guy, who is so bent on winning that you don't mind ruining for others. Whatever floats your boat. Just stop the bullshit about being at disadvantage, because it's the other way around. And it's not "competitive" when 90% of enemies are at disadvantage from the get-go. You're just using a handicap mode.

And on topic: my favorite thread about KBM was the one where KBM users bitched and moaned for pages and pages that making them only fight other KBM users will "fragment the community" and destroy DUST. To quote DBA: Freaky Alien Genotype Spawns, a bunch of them.

It really comes down to that CCP had no faith in Dust other than a Eve minigame on the PS3 or any faith in the PS3 community. This issue has been around since I joined Dust over 7 months ago and hasn't gone away. Eve players always talk about adapting till they have to use the PS3 controller that should be a non issue on a PS3 game. The only ones that complain about having to use the controller are Eve players. No one that has own a PS3 longer than Dust, would ever complain about having to use the PS3 controller.

Its not the advantage , its more that the keyboard and mouse brings a shadow of a doubt , symbolizing a slap in the face to the PS3 community. For this and more reasons convinced me to never try and play another CCP game. I play Dust more for my Corp mates at the moment that make the game enjoyable.

It really comes down to that CCP had no faith in Dust other than a Eve minigame on the PS3 or any faith in the PS3 community. This issue has been around since I joined Dust over 7 months ago and hasn't gone away. Eve players always talk about adapting till they have to use the PS3 controller that should be a non issue on a PS3 game. The only ones that complain about having to use the controller are Eve players. No one that has own a PS3 longer than Dust, would ever complain about having to use the PS3 controller.

Its not the advantage , its more that the keyboard and mouse brings a shadow of a doubt , symbolizing a slap in the face to the PS3 community. For this and more reasons convinced me to never try and play another CCP game. I play Dust more for my Corp mates at the moment that make the game enjoyable.

It really comes down to that CCP had no faith in Dust other than a Eve minigame on the PS3 or any faith in the PS3 community. This issue has been around since I joined Dust over 7 months ago and hasn't gone away. Eve players always talk about adapting till they have to use the PS3 controller that should be a non issue on a PS3 game. The only ones that complain about having to use the controller are Eve players. No one that has own a PS3 longer than Dust, would ever complain about having to use the PS3 controller.

Its not the advantage , its more that the keyboard and mouse brings a shadow of a doubt , symbolizing a slap in the face to the PS3 community. For this and more reasons convinced me to never try and play another CCP game. I play Dust more for my Corp mates at the moment that make the game enjoyable.

so since you have played 10 years on pc, who are you kidding that yer using a DS3 when all top players use every single little advantage they can get their hands on?

If mouse KB is so OP that it kills people without even trying, you would be using one right now.

Tested it numerous times sidestepping/strafing is identical on KB and controller when deadzone on motion section is set to 0.

The main difference is turn speed which isnt' that much faster when controller sensitivity is set to 100(but many cant aim or maintain hipfire at 100% controller sensitivity) so you either have to settle for fast turning speed or more precise aim. Whereas a mouse simply can adjust DPI.

This however is an issue of poor controller optimization. (instead they need to improve turning speed on controllers and create a 90* and 180* fast turn option that can mimick a mouse flick. (maybe L1 and R3 combined each click is a quick 90? or maybe just set it to defualt 180 and adjust the turn speed so its on the dime?)

Addtionally seperate hipfire and ADS fire sensitivity is a must for DS3

for the life of me idk why FPS devs cant seem to figure that out when trying to program for controllers.

You do realize there various companies in business solely making mouse peripherals for consoles. There are many people myself included, that have been playing fps' before they became popular on consoles. If It's that much better, then use it. But this is simply not the case.

First off you assume im a child that has only played games on the PS3 and that's not true at all. I have been playing FPS games and other types of games since Atari when i was young. there is no excuse for not using a PS3 controller for PS3 game. We all have had to learn controllers from the NES,SNES,N64, Gensis, Xbox, Playstation, Wii, and Keyboard and Mouse while playing Doom and battlefield 1943. When i play over a friends house that owns a Xbox that I dont own, The last thing I do is scream this game sucks because I cant use my PS controller. Instead I slowly start to learn the Xbox controller, that to this day I still don't find comfortable but became pretty good at GTA 4 with it. I would never buy an Xbox on the logic that I wouldnt need to use the Xbox controller ever.

All I have seen from the forum over the months is that Eve players love to scream adapt , till they have to and that has only been the PS3 controller. That CCP ran in to fix faster than Menus, Spawning, Hit detection, or a purpose to play Dust without an Eve account.

We care because CCP told us that they were producing a MMOFPS for the PS3 exclusively and did nothing but turn Dust into a Eve minigame with terrible PS3 controls. They spent so much time trying to balance the keyboard and mouse to be equal that it turned away a lot of PS3 users with lack of improving the PS3 controller controls for the sake of keeping their Eve players at the cost of new PS3 players. Also to be honest buster you can have Dust on the PC , I dont think Dust is coming to the PS4 especially for the reason CCP will directly compete with Sony for microtransactions in Planetside 2 and lack of improvement to Dust

1. We care because CCP told us that they were producing a MMOFPS for the PS3 exclusively and did nothing but turn Dust into a Eve minigame with terrible PS3 controls. They spent so much time trying to balance the keyboard and mouse to be equal that it turned away a lot of PS3 users with lack of improving the PS3 controller controls for the sake of keeping their Eve players at the cost of new PS3 players.

2. Also to be honest buster you can have Dust on the PC , I dont think Dust is coming to the PS4 especially for the reason CCP will directly compete with Sony for microtransactions in Planetside 2 and lack of improvement to Dust.

Not everyone can afford to buy AUR so should that be scraped in favour of making things more fair?.

Hahaha!

well actually.... yeah :)

PS: I'm for KB/M. Cant do **** with a controller and typing in chats with a controller is JUST ******* **** but tbh how does it work? Can I just plug my computer keyboard/mouse into my PS3?

First off you assume im a child that has only played games on the PS3 and that's not true at all. I have been playing FPS games and other types of games since Atari when i was young. there is no excuse for not using a PS3 controller for PS3 game. We all have had to learn controllers from the NES,SNES,N64, Gensis, Xbox, Playstation, Wii, and Keyboard and Mouse while playing Doom and battlefield 1943. When i play over a friends house that owns a Xbox that I dont own, The last thing I do is scream this game sucks because I cant use my PS controller. Instead I slowly start to learn the Xbox controller, that to this day I still don't find comfortable but became pretty good at GTA 4 with it. I would never buy an Xbox on the logic that I wouldnt need to use the Xbox controller ever.

All I have seen from the forum over the months is that Eve players love to scream adapt , till they have to and that has only been the PS3 controller. That CCP ran in to fix faster than Menus, Spawning, Hit detection, or a purpose to play Dust without an Eve account.

PS4 moves closer to the PC platform, then staying a console my guess is we will be seeing more KB/M games in the future if they want a slice of the PC market.