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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:11:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:Personally i think keyboard and mouse does not belong in any PS game. The keyboard and mouse gives the user an advantage over a controller user by allowing them more precise aiming and control which is not possible with a standard controller. We know why CCP put K&M option into the game, to attract EVE players from PC to PS3 but that is not a strong reason to create a divide within the game.
Why create a divide within the game? When we can all use our controllers which would make the game equal and give a chance for everyone to have a fair gun fight and not get dumped on by K&M users. Controllers have some advantages over the K&M but they do not outweigh the K&M advantages.
Take away keyboard and mouse. There is no need for it.
Its merely a playstyle, i am pretty good with KB/M but those that are good with their controller can still kill me.
Not everyone grew up with a controller, taking KB/M away will make all of us quit, there is no way i am going to re-do 20 years of KB/M gunplay to fiddle with a controller over 1 single game, its already bad enough my Nvidia 680 GTX vid card is being used just to type this on a forum.
PS4 moves closer to the PC platform, then staying a console my guess is we will be seeing more KB/M games in the future if they want a slice of the PC market.
Summary: A Bad player will always lose to a good Pad or KB player.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:35:00 -
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AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Summary: A Bad player will always lose to a good Pad or KB player.
Gamepad - Inputlag, Mouse - nothing; Gamepad - Slow Sensitive, Mouse - Fast Sensitive... I can not resist a mouse in a near shootout - no chance. Google Translate
Wait ...
Mouse no input lag ?
Mouse fast Sensitivity ?
This game is so low in FPS that my input lag is just terrible sometimes, making some cqc fights impossible when the fps drops well below 15...aiming goes out the window, both close & long range.
Not sure what you are smoking but it takes 10-15cm mouse dragging, picking it up, placing it again to continue turning to eventually turn around, on pc it takes 1cm for me to make a 360 spin with a solid 100 FPS.
Not to mention we cannot tweak ADS aiming speed, witch on PC is always possible.
Scrollwheel inconsistent operation when trying to draw your secondary & 1-2 seconds delay pressing the ADS button have lead to allot of deaths for me, not to mention it is impossible to pull a grenade and walk to the right when holding it, because you need to hold the grenade with the finger you use to strafe right.
I would say that this game has barely operational mouse support, and i don't know if its intended or done to give mouse users a handicap.
Well see next build when FPS should be better.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:42:00 -
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AskuII Legend wrote:
I can not resist a mouse in a near shootout - no chance.
So basically, every player that bests you in cqc is using a M/KB setup? |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:43:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:
Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair.
Not everyone can play with a Controller.... |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:55:00 -
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AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Wait ...
Mouse no input lag ?
Mouse fast Sensitivity ?
15 FPS? We do the same! I connected the mouse and tried to play a couple of fights. I played as a God among mortals ...
If you have no experience playing with a M/KB setup, you do not become super awesome by using it once...so either you played FPS on PC and on console and can work both equally well.
I on the other hand don't know where Square, triangle, X or O is on my controller because i bought a console for 1 game.
and if you cannot feel the framerate we get on the PS3 as being very very bad FPS, then it is because you either have never experienced solid 60+ fps or are a person that is insensitive to FPS drops.
If you are the insensitive to FPs drops person, its actually a good thing and works in your favor, we on the other hand have to overcompensate to the game slowing down and speeding back up witch messes up our aim.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:56:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Twisted202 wrote:
Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair.
Not everyone can play with a Controller.... It comes with the PS3 how could you not
Because the PS3 came only with 1 game for me, Dust 514...and i doubt i will get any others on it. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:33:00 -
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AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Wait ...
Mouse no input lag ?
Mouse fast Sensitivity ?
15 FPS? We do the same! I connected the mouse and tried to play a couple of fights. I played as a God among mortals ... If you have no experience playing with a M/KB setup, you do not become super awesome by using it once...so either you played FPS on PC and on console and can work both equally well. I on the other hand don't know where Square, triangle, X or O is on my controller because i bought a console for 1 game. and if you cannot feel the framerate we get on the PS3 as being very very bad FPS, then it is because you either have never experienced solid 60+ fps or are a person that is insensitive to FPS drops. If you are the insensitive to FPs drops person, its actually a good thing and works in your favor, we on the other hand have to overcompensate to the game slowing down and speeding back up witch messes up our aim. I play on PS3 and PC. PC - Core i7, 670GTX+560GTX Ti PHysX, 16GB DDR3 1800 MHz, SSD... I play on consoles, following the rules ... The mouse and the controller - it's my management on different platforms ... With them, I do well. Mouse is not for consoles - is cheat. upd: http://s002.radikal.ru/i200/1304/db/1f46b0d23cde.png
Well, your PC should be fine, altough using a slow card just to run the physX engine is a weird choice, but if it works it works.
The rule allows the use of KB/M.... but you suddenly posting and quoting me about KB/M, you still b*tthurt from that last 7/6 us KB/M users gave you and your team?
First 13ear starts mailing me after we plug him 4 times (he ussualy quits after 2 though, so props for staying that long 13ear), like 12 times in a few hours, now you quoting...
That 2-3m SP advantage is starting to shows cracks, so now its whining about the controller types eh ?
SP is Fine, Heavies R fine, Tanks R fine!
KB/M = CHEAT!
yeah .....not really.. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:11:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Amazing how often this topic comes up and its always the same, someone butt hurt about getting killed by an alleged KB/M user, get used to KB/M in console games consoles are moving towards being user friendly PCs that plug into the TV and *can* be used with a controller.
I have not posted this because I was killed by someone wity K&M. Dont assume.
Its not like you are a psychic and know when they are using KB/M or a controller...
You sound like all those guys that PM me on PC that i MUST be hacking, because otherwise i could not have beaten them... |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:20:00 -
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Jayquan18 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:I have both pc and ps3. On the ps3 is play all my racing, gta etc. I play FPSs only on the PC. Why, because I played shooters a long time before analog controllers where invented. It's what me and a a lot of other dust players are used to. However I know a lot of top players how quite easily mow down K&M players. So in short HTFU.  PS is not PC Sorry don't get what you mean. If dust 514 was on the PC obviously I wouldn't be playing it on a piece of outdated tech like a ps3. You want everyone to play with a controller because you can't handle pc users using what they like to. The PS3 is not a PC. IF you want to play games thats compatible with K&M then move to the PC.
if you want to play solely with Pad users, move to a game that dont support KB/M ...but then theres Eagle Eye...
You can make a calculated guess, but thats still a guess until you confirm it..
But whatever makes you sleep when you get killed... |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.06 14:05:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Amazing how often this topic comes up and its always the same, someone butt hurt about getting killed by an alleged KB/M user, get used to KB/M in console games consoles are moving towards being user friendly PCs that plug into the TV and *can* be used with a controller.
I have not posted this because I was killed by someone wity K&M. Dont assume. Its not like you are a psychic and know when they are using KB/M or a controller... You sound like all those guys that PM me on PC that i MUST be hacking, because otherwise i could not have beaten them... yeah thats what i was saying  i sound like that? no i dont, im not sending you no messages and i haven't accused you of hacking.
No, you haven't but, if you had reading comprehension, you would have read that i was talking in a general sense of it and that you sound like all those people that did pm or mail me about it after i was done facing them on a PC shooter.
This is me playing APB R on PC, i cannot get that kind of precision aim out of my mouse on the PS3, if i would i would get 5-8 mails each evening.
Quote:Good one, Rei Shepard. I especially loved the part when you told us all how terribad DUST is with KBM. It almost sounded like you were fighting uphill battle here and making the game harder for yourself by using KBM! Congrats on being hardcore, man! /s
Never said that, but its not like its the mouse from a PC shooter |
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:22:00 -
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Quote:I'm too old now, no longer play to compete so I don't need handicap. When I find time to play after days work I play to relax and have fun with my buddies. Otherwise I'd be on PC, playing Battlefield or Diablo.
And if your mouse is slow you might want to try another one or search the forums, and then stop the disinformation.
I am not going to replace a 120$ gaming mouse for another, if it has these specs on PC, if it doesnt have it on ps3 its because their support of it is crap.
5600dpi Razer Precision 3.5G Laser Sensor
1000Hz Ultrapolling / 1ms response time
200 inches per second max tracking speed
Until i get this response out of my mouse together with a smooth 60 FPS all day long, DS3 users don't need to worry about not being able to compete with these mouses. |
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