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AskuII Legend
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:42:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:
Wait ...
Mouse no input lag ?
Mouse fast Sensitivity ?
15 FPS? We do the same! I connected the mouse and tried to play a couple of fights. I played as a God among mortals ...
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Twisted202
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
5
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:43:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:I have both pc and ps3. On the ps3 is play all my racing, gta etc. I play FPSs only on the PC. Why, because I played shooters a long time before analog controllers where invented. It's what me and a a lot of other dust players are used to. However I know a lot of top players how quite easily mow down K&M players. So in short HTFU.  PS is not PC Sorry don't get what you mean. If dust 514 was on the PC obviously I wouldn't be playing it on a piece of outdated tech like a ps3. You want everyone to play with a controller because you can't handle pc users using what they like to. Its not on PC its on PS3, bringing M&K only puts other people at a disadvantage. Im in SI im sure i can handle myself when it comes to K&M players If you've got the skills to handle the KBM user's then why are you here QQ about your "disadvantage"?
You clearly only seeing what you want to, just because i can handle does not mean everyone can. Stop. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
125
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:43:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:
Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair.
Not everyone can play with a Controller.... |
Twisted202
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:45:00 -
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Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:I have both pc and ps3. On the ps3 is play all my racing, gta etc. I play FPSs only on the PC. Why, because I played shooters a long time before analog controllers where invented. It's what me and a a lot of other dust players are used to. However I know a lot of top players how quite easily mow down K&M players. So in short HTFU. PS is not PC Sorry don't get what you mean. If dust 514 was on the PC obviously I wouldn't be playing it on a piece of outdated tech like a ps3. You want everyone to play with a controller because you can't handle pc users using what they like to. Its not on PC its on PS3, bringing M&K only puts other people at a disadvantage. Im in SI im sure i can handle myself when it comes to K&M players Yes it is on ps3 a console that allows for multiple input methods. If you wish to use an inferior method that's up to you. You moan that not everyone can use a K&M well the use of a pad for an fps is just as alien to me. It won't matter soon anyway once Dust has moved to the PC.
When they have a 7year+ plan with PS3 good one mate |
Twisted202
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:46:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Twisted202 wrote:
Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair.
Not everyone can play with a Controller....
It comes with the PS3 how could you not |
AskuII Legend
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:46:00 -
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This is a video game console, not a PC. In the future, all of the players on the controller will run away and will not play ... Will fight each other, because we 70.000.000, no one wants to play against players who have the advantage. |
Crash Monster
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:50:00 -
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I think the point of the OP, with respect to pinpoint accuracy, really plays a role in sniper action. As a sniper I'm considering getting a KB/M to even the playing field a bit. |
Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:50:00 -
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AskuII Legend wrote:This is a video game console, not a PC. In the future, all of the players on the controller will run away and will not play ... Will fight each other, because we 70.000.000, no one wants to play against players who have the advantage.
I'd be willing to speculate that console controllers are going to evolve from current setup quite a bit, especially if consoles march towards being not just gaming platforms but evolve into home entertainment platforms.
edit: not saying that mouse/keyboard is by any means optimal in this given scenarion. |
Zhar Ptitsaa
The Red Guards
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:53:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:Personally I don't get, current type of console, controllers in a FSP games. Why would one wan't to use something as a inpud device that has poor accuracy on aiming and presice movement? Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair.
What? all you have to do is plug it into the ps3 and your good to go! if you don't have a kb/m, here's both for under -ú10 if you can't afford that you should wonder why you have a ps3
Twisted202 wrote: Its not about the price, its the fact not everyone will have M&K
Again what? as pretty much everyone has said they still prefer to use a controller to the kb/m because it's what they're used to, saying everyone will have a kb/m is pretty stupid.
AskuII Legend wrote: no one wants to play against players who have the advantage.
it's not an advantage it's a playstyle |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
125
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:55:00 -
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AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Wait ...
Mouse no input lag ?
Mouse fast Sensitivity ?
15 FPS? We do the same! I connected the mouse and tried to play a couple of fights. I played as a God among mortals ...
If you have no experience playing with a M/KB setup, you do not become super awesome by using it once...so either you played FPS on PC and on console and can work both equally well.
I on the other hand don't know where Square, triangle, X or O is on my controller because i bought a console for 1 game.
and if you cannot feel the framerate we get on the PS3 as being very very bad FPS, then it is because you either have never experienced solid 60+ fps or are a person that is insensitive to FPS drops.
If you are the insensitive to FPs drops person, its actually a good thing and works in your favor, we on the other hand have to overcompensate to the game slowing down and speeding back up witch messes up our aim.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
125
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:56:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Twisted202 wrote:
Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair.
Not everyone can play with a Controller.... It comes with the PS3 how could you not
Because the PS3 came only with 1 game for me, Dust 514...and i doubt i will get any others on it. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:58:00 -
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Its not on PC its on PS3, M&K only puts other people at a disadvantage. Im i
Yes it is on ps3 a console that allows for multiple input methods. If you wish to use an inferior method that's up to you. You moan that not everyone can use a K&M well the use of a pad for an fps is just as alien to me.
It won't matter soon anyway once Dust has moved to the PC.[/quote]
When they have a 7year+ plan with PS3 good one mate[/quote]
If you have seen the road map I think you should share it with everyone. They haven't even confirmed that they will be on the PS4. All they would is that it will move onto better tech in the future.
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Twisted202
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:59:00 -
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Zhar Ptitsaa wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:Personally I don't get, current type of console, controllers in a FSP games. Why would one wan't to use something as a inpud device that has poor accuracy on aiming and presice movement? Not everyone can play with K&M which makes it unfair. What? all you have to do is plug it into the ps3 and your good to go! if you don't have a kb/m, here's both for under -ú10 if you can't afford that you should wonder why you have a ps3 Twisted202 wrote: Its not about the price, its the fact not everyone will have M&K Again what? as pretty much everyone has said they still prefer to use a controller to the kb/m because it's what they're used to, saying everyone will have a kb/m is pretty stupid. AskuII Legend wrote: no one wants to play against players who have the advantage. it's not an advantage it's a playstyle
you dont understand. |
Disposable Meatbag
Inertial Defense Systems
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:05:00 -
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Not everyone likes kb/m,I personally do,but my buddy hates the kb/m and cant use it as well as controller. I do personally feel that aiming is better than the controller but the kb/m has it flaws. It cant move at a 45 degree angle easily and melee is awkward as well as throwing grenades. I wish the ps3 could run my 15 button mouse software. |
Zhar Ptitsaa
The Red Guards
EoN.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:06:00 -
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If i don't understand it explain it to me |
AskuII Legend
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:07:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Wait ...
Mouse no input lag ?
Mouse fast Sensitivity ?
15 FPS? We do the same! I connected the mouse and tried to play a couple of fights. I played as a God among mortals ... If you have no experience playing with a M/KB setup, you do not become super awesome by using it once...so either you played FPS on PC and on console and can work both equally well. I on the other hand don't know where Square, triangle, X or O is on my controller because i bought a console for 1 game. and if you cannot feel the framerate we get on the PS3 as being very very bad FPS, then it is because you either have never experienced solid 60+ fps or are a person that is insensitive to FPS drops. If you are the insensitive to FPs drops person, its actually a good thing and works in your favor, we on the other hand have to overcompensate to the game slowing down and speeding back up witch messes up our aim.
I play on PS3 and PC. PC - Core i7, 670GTX+560GTX Ti PHysX, 16GB DDR3 1800 MHz, SSD...
I play on consoles, following the rules ... The mouse and the controller - it's my management on different platforms ... With them, I do well. Mouse is not for consoles - is cheat. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
559
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:10:00 -
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Amazing how often this topic comes up and its always the same, someone butt hurt about getting killed by an alleged KB/M user, get used to KB/M in console games consoles are moving towards being user friendly PCs that plug into the TV and *can* be used with a controller.
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Disposable Meatbag
Inertial Defense Systems
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:28:00 -
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Yeah I think they should get used to it. I believe the future holds more kb/m in console gaming. The ps4 is pc based and there is no denying the functionality of a kb/m in most gaming. I could not have played WoW on a controller. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
125
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:33:00 -
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AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:AskuII Legend wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:
Wait ...
Mouse no input lag ?
Mouse fast Sensitivity ?
15 FPS? We do the same! I connected the mouse and tried to play a couple of fights. I played as a God among mortals ... If you have no experience playing with a M/KB setup, you do not become super awesome by using it once...so either you played FPS on PC and on console and can work both equally well. I on the other hand don't know where Square, triangle, X or O is on my controller because i bought a console for 1 game. and if you cannot feel the framerate we get on the PS3 as being very very bad FPS, then it is because you either have never experienced solid 60+ fps or are a person that is insensitive to FPS drops. If you are the insensitive to FPs drops person, its actually a good thing and works in your favor, we on the other hand have to overcompensate to the game slowing down and speeding back up witch messes up our aim. I play on PS3 and PC. PC - Core i7, 670GTX+560GTX Ti PHysX, 16GB DDR3 1800 MHz, SSD... I play on consoles, following the rules ... The mouse and the controller - it's my management on different platforms ... With them, I do well. Mouse is not for consoles - is cheat. upd: http://s002.radikal.ru/i200/1304/db/1f46b0d23cde.png
Well, your PC should be fine, altough using a slow card just to run the physX engine is a weird choice, but if it works it works.
The rule allows the use of KB/M.... but you suddenly posting and quoting me about KB/M, you still b*tthurt from that last 7/6 us KB/M users gave you and your team?
First 13ear starts mailing me after we plug him 4 times (he ussualy quits after 2 though, so props for staying that long 13ear), like 12 times in a few hours, now you quoting...
That 2-3m SP advantage is starting to shows cracks, so now its whining about the controller types eh ?
SP is Fine, Heavies R fine, Tanks R fine!
KB/M = CHEAT!
yeah .....not really.. |
AskuII Legend
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:34:00 -
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Disposable Meatbag wrote:Yeah I think they should get used to it. I believe the future holds more kb/m in console gaming. The ps4 is pc based and there is no denying the functionality of a kb/m in most gaming. I could not have played WoW on a controller.
Sony will be promoting its new controller, nor any talk of supporting mouse and keyboard and can not be ... |
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Jebus McKing
DUST University
Ivy League
43
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:04:00 -
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KB/M doesn't give you much of an advantage if you are not used to using it.
This game is slow as kitten. If this was as fast as, lets say, Quake, then DS3 users would be facing... uhm... a huge disadvantage. But at the moment there's not much of an advantage over a decent DS3 user.
Coming up next: PS Move users want KB/M and DS3 removed. |
Jayquan18
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:06:00 -
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Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:I have both pc and ps3. On the ps3 is play all my racing, gta etc. I play FPSs only on the PC. Why, because I played shooters a long time before analog controllers where invented. It's what me and a a lot of other dust players are used to. However I know a lot of top players how quite easily mow down K&M players. So in short HTFU. PS is not PC Sorry don't get what you mean. If dust 514 was on the PC obviously I wouldn't be playing it on a piece of outdated tech like a ps3. You want everyone to play with a controller because you can't handle pc users using what they like to.
The PS3 is not a PC. IF you want to play games thats compatible with K&M then move to the PC. |
Jayquan18
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:09:00 -
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Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:I have both pc and ps3. On the ps3 is play all my racing, gta etc. I play FPSs only on the PC. Why, because I played shooters a long time before analog controllers where invented. It's what me and a a lot of other dust players are used to. However I know a lot of top players how quite easily mow down K&M players. So in short HTFU. PS is not PC Sorry don't get what you mean. If dust 514 was on the PC obviously I wouldn't be playing it on a piece of outdated tech like a ps3. You want everyone to play with a controller because you can't handle pc users using what they like to. Its not on PC its on PS3, bringing M&K only puts other people at a disadvantage. Im in SI im sure i can handle myself when it comes to K&M players Yes it is on ps3 a console that allows for multiple input methods. If you wish to use an inferior method that's up to you. You moan that not everyone can use a K&M well the use of a pad for an fps is just as alien to me. It won't matter soon anyway once Dust has moved to the PC.
"it won't matter soon anyway once Dust has moved to the PC" LMFAO you keep thinking that. |
Twisted202
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:10:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Amazing how often this topic comes up and its always the same, someone butt hurt about getting killed by an alleged KB/M user, get used to KB/M in console games consoles are moving towards being user friendly PCs that plug into the TV and *can* be used with a controller.
I have not posted this because I was killed by someone wity K&M. Dont assume. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
125
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:11:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Amazing how often this topic comes up and its always the same, someone butt hurt about getting killed by an alleged KB/M user, get used to KB/M in console games consoles are moving towards being user friendly PCs that plug into the TV and *can* be used with a controller.
I have not posted this because I was killed by someone wity K&M. Dont assume.
Its not like you are a psychic and know when they are using KB/M or a controller...
You sound like all those guys that PM me on PC that i MUST be hacking, because otherwise i could not have beaten them... |
Jayquan18
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:13:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Amazing how often this topic comes up and its always the same, someone butt hurt about getting killed by an alleged KB/M user, get used to KB/M in console games consoles are moving towards being user friendly PCs that plug into the TV and *can* be used with a controller.
I have not posted this because I was killed by someone wity K&M. Dont assume. Its not like you are a psychic and know when they are using KB/M or a controller... You sound like all those guys that PM me on PC that i MUST be hacking, because otherwise i could not have beaten them...
But I can... |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
125
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:20:00 -
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Jayquan18 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote:I have both pc and ps3. On the ps3 is play all my racing, gta etc. I play FPSs only on the PC. Why, because I played shooters a long time before analog controllers where invented. It's what me and a a lot of other dust players are used to. However I know a lot of top players how quite easily mow down K&M players. So in short HTFU. PS is not PC Sorry don't get what you mean. If dust 514 was on the PC obviously I wouldn't be playing it on a piece of outdated tech like a ps3. You want everyone to play with a controller because you can't handle pc users using what they like to. The PS3 is not a PC. IF you want to play games thats compatible with K&M then move to the PC.
if you want to play solely with Pad users, move to a game that dont support KB/M ...but then theres Eagle Eye...
You can make a calculated guess, but thats still a guess until you confirm it..
But whatever makes you sleep when you get killed... |
Twisted202
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
11
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:28:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Twisted202 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Amazing how often this topic comes up and its always the same, someone butt hurt about getting killed by an alleged KB/M user, get used to KB/M in console games consoles are moving towards being user friendly PCs that plug into the TV and *can* be used with a controller.
I have not posted this because I was killed by someone wity K&M. Dont assume. Its not like you are a psychic and know when they are using KB/M or a controller... You sound like all those guys that PM me on PC that i MUST be hacking, because otherwise i could not have beaten them...
yeah thats what i was saying  i sound like that? no i dont, im not sending you no messages and i haven't accused you of hacking. |
Banjo Robertson
The Tritan Industries
3
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:32:00 -
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TLDR at bottom.
Ever since microsoft, sony, and nintendo started adding USB ports to their consols, I have wondered when they would have games that allow mouse or keyboards to be used to control the game. I just see this as a natural progression of technology. Oddly enough, I don't think anyone has mentioned the PS Move controller in this thread yet, I have known a few people to use it, and they find that its pretty much equal to a mouse when you get used to it as far as aiming is concerned.
I welcome the fact that there are three different ways to have input for the game. Controller is easier because it requires less thought to set up and comes with the ps3, but you are right that it does not provide as precise control as kb/m or the ps move.
Kb/M does take a little more time to set up properly, you have to either get a wireless keyboard and mouse, or a usb keyboard and mouse. Then you also have to consider if the ps3 is sitting in the living room, or maybe you're the kind of person who has it next to your desk and connected to a smaller monitor on your desk, for the desk users a usb keyboard would not be that much of a problem because the cord doesnt have to be as long, and you have a comfy spot to place the kb/m. Living room people would have to think about something to do differently than the couch for kb/m.
Keyboards and mice are relatively cheap though, especially compared to a ps3 controller or the ps move controller and eye camera setup, so this really isnt a factor for the barrier of entry, the main problem I see is that USB cords would not be long enough, so you may have to find a USB extender, or a keyboard with a really long USB cord, that also has a USB port so you can plug a mouse into the keyboard.
PS move requires about the same amount of setup as a ps3 controller, so its pretty easy to get going with it and does provide better control than the ps controller, but may be a but more expensive.
Me personally I once tried just a mouse and the controller, it was a little tricky but I found it to be quite workable even though I was sitting on the floor infront of the TV because of my mouses short USB cable.
TLDR: I think its a great thing to have 3 different ways to play the game, and I also think all 3 ways are open to all player, don't look at is as something impossible to set up, because its not impossible, its very possible for you to use any of the 3 ways to play the game. You just have to plan out how to set up this method of control for your own situation. If you're playing on a military base and using a shared console maybe the KB/m isnt available, but the PS move might be an alternative, don't knock it til you try it, its basically a motion sensor mouse. |
DTOracle
Universal Allies Inc.
105
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:41:00 -
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I have been using a mouse on my PS3 for 5 years now. CCP removing in-game support for KB/M will NOT change that. |
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