You might want to start losing it right away then. What pointed you out to that date anyway?

New build on April 16th with smaller, non-client updates on a regular basis until then.

Source?

Ive heard a lot of rumors it'll be before April 2...if not, i might lose my mind

If anything it should have been before April 2nd to keep people interested. After that good luck getting people away from Defiance (provided it doesn't suck).

it's actually fun and good shooter mechanics too.

Ive heard a lot of rumors it'll be before April 2...if not, i might lose my mind

Really? Just played beta 3 for a few hours, unless its beta like a CCP beta it's kind of slow and dull, hate the auto aim, and the fighting did not get to frantic level like some corp matches...

why the kitten even get into this?

You know that only CCP knows/has plans for when the next build is.
You know that Not A Single regular player knows anything about timing of the next build.
You know that any players privy to such information would be subject to an NDA.

Stop bothering with these rumors, and just accept that the next build is released when it is released.

I will say fanfest is the rare time ccp overhypes their games.

Ccp is yet to deliver anything promised put frankly even if they do deploy a new build at this point I have no faith it will work and it will take another 6 month's for anything else new to come along. I'm positive in a year or twos time this game will be awsome but I'm afired by that point it will be too late. They can't treat this game like EvE the markets are very diffrent to how eve was when it started they won't have a core base of players to build off if they keep fumbling along like they are.... Others. Companys are fair better at their phases. If dust had kept the NDA shield people are far more forgiving but this is been treated as a finished product and even as a free game its sub par as shown by Sony lack of intrest in promoting the game

Version 0.8 has many many things inbound because all the things ccp was unable to test on the test severs are no longer affected. They have been furoisly mad logging all the stresses the game has had on ccp's tranqulility severs.

I know its hard to belive in that ccp has the best desires for dust to succeede to the point it is a passion. Right now a few teams from eve online are helping with system design. For example plaetary conquest was an eve team feature.

Version 0.8 has many many things inbound because all the things ccp was unable to test on the test severs are no longer affected. They have been furoisly mad logging all the stresses the game has had on ccp's tranqulility severs.

While I have to agree at this time dust could be better and the lack of upcomming updates is leaving more questions than I could safely answer. (though devs talking to is at an all time high) . Time is their enemy as in they do not have enough of it. If you saw that skybox that we are not supposed to see yet you can get a somewat better appreciation for the game as that sky box is near final asset.

God help CCP if they announce a Summer launch for the build at Fanfest because you will see people walk away in droves as they are already tired of the vague hype.

Its not the DEVs that people have issues with, its the marketing team. The DEV team has been quite active on the forums and relaying information that they are allowed to give out. On the other hand, the marketing of this game has been awful at best. SOONGäó has been the biggest botch in customer communication in a long time. Its the proverbial carrot dangling in front of you that you will never get.

Hell, even if they said that the next build would be an April/May timeframe, people would at least calm down a little since they know it will come in a certain slot. God help CCP if they announce a Summer launch for the build at Fanfest because you will see people walk away in droves as they are already tired of the vague hype.

I don't completely agree with Steadyhand, but this sentence seems to me as you must know something we don't.

The only thing confirmed by the Devs so far for 0.8 is PC. Other than that I have not seen any rock solid confirmation of anything else in 0.8. Just a lot of speculation and half promises.

If the Devs are giving you information that we, as a community, are not getting, then either you need to tell us, or they need to stop sharing with just you.

Even if you are just a CCP alt, the manner in which this is conducted is really screwed. Are CCP so incapable of scheduling to know what is or is not going to be in the next build?

The only reason to not elaborate on what you plan for the next build is because you are deeply afraid of making any commitments, because you don't have the confidence to complete it on time, or with what you promise.

If CCP has so little faith in their Dev team to stay on schedule, or not break the game, then why are we even here? Why should I invest anymore money into amateur hour in Iceland/Shanghai? Just because they are making promises of an interesting game?

The really sad thing is, that the committed Eve fans are still buying Merc packs right now. They still need to get their 30 day actives, and spend Aurum on passive boosters to not become disadvantaged.

They are essentially paying a subscription for the beta, and as long as that remains the case, CCP does not need to advance any further. They will have no incentive for pushing forward as long as they are getting their small sliver of reliable income.

So if you want this game to move forward, show CCP that they don't deserve more of your money until they can start to get onto a committed schedule, and actually deliver.

I fully agree its marketing's fault but they're only doing it to get money for the company... There is still a faction warfare update on the way though, blog should be out in the month along with possible other blogs such as the map guys doing a blog on game types and going beyond the clone out and launcher games, and they will hit lightly on map design during that.

The word to use now a days is Soon
and not
Soon(tm)

They know the schedule, just that way scrum works is mostly alot of planning and researching first then sprinting like a mad rabbit getting away from a Cheetah.

I fully agree its marketing's fault but they're only doing it to get money for the company... There is still a faction warfare update on the way though, blog should be out in the month along with possible other blogs such as the map guys doing a blog on game types and going beyond the clone out and launcher games, and they will hit lightly on map design during that.

Defiance isnt that much of a threat. CCPs only real enemy right now is CCP. People are just tired of being jerked around with a promise to give you a promise about a tease in the future.

How do u get the defiance beta?

There is only one Dev blog I want to see, the one about the new build and its features. Not anything further in the future than that.

You know what would be better than a blog about new maps? New maps! Sound blog? New sounds!

CCP needs to stop making promises, and start delivering. Everything else is just BS. And that BS is getting to the point of making me say F it and just walking away from the game.




Maybe I am cynical, maybe I am a skeptic, or maybe I am a pessimist. This all reads like, we don't want to tell people how far out the actual update is, because if we did, then most of the playerbase would take a long break, and the sales of merc packs would dry up overnight.

People need to stop supporting this with their wallets until CCP gives the players something worth their cash. Considering the content on offer right now, they have been grossly overcompensated for what they have produced thus far.

The problem is that once you put money into the equation, you have to realize that the situation has completely changed. You are now responsible for delivering a product that people are paying for. CCP needs to realize that most players are not buying Merc Packs or AUR for the game as it is now, they are investing in what they hope that the game will become. The more disenfranchised people become as to when that date will be, the less they are willing to invest and the more bitter they will become that they put money into promises that always just seem to be on the horizon.

Look at what you posted. Its all about blogs that should be coming out promising things that will be out at another time. Its just more teases to promises about dates. Im not faulting you or the DEV team about this as its obvious that you cannot release information without the marketing seal of approval, but it is just the same ol same ol as far as players are concerned.

After fanfest CCP has a vacation im pretty sure. (2 weeks I think) so it would probably be late may before we get the build.

Considering that most devs dont have weekends in the launch rush or work overtime or at home after hours... yeah a short vacation after successful build launch does not surprise me to get over the hangovers.

Writing a dev blog is a complicated process. Requires peer reviews and editing and editors it also consumes quite a bit of developer's time. Best time to write blogs is right after majority of the feature completion and before the team gets reassigned to help other teams behind on tasks.

0.7 was promised to be a stability build, Devs championed it as a fix build and everyone that was mostly in the know in knew it was a fix build and a non content build.

0.8 is promised to be a major massive content build more so than most of the previous builds combined. From the things I have been seeing so far. Its going to deliver at least something, it wont be an empty build that 0.7 was I can grantee that. I would like to say though that in the future updates similar to 0.7 that is all fixes and no content are likely to happen again. While you will celebrate it for the first week, its benifits get quickly forgotten. Please stop proving marketing right on this aspect the fix patches do not draw in newer players like a new feature build does.

0.7 was promised to be a stability build, Devs championed it as a fix build and everyone that was mostly in the know in knew it was a fix build and a non content build.

0.8 is promised to be a major massive content build more so than most of the previous builds combined. From the things I have been seeing so far. Its going to deliver at least something, it wont be an empty build that 0.7 was I can grantee that. I would like to say though that in the future updates similar to 0.7 that is all fixes and no content are likely to happen again. While you will celebrate it for the first week, its benifits get quickly forgotten. Please stop proving marketing right on this aspect the fix patches do not draw in newer players like a new feature build does.

On the flip side problems and issues create a bad stigma over time and eventually while you may not get as many new players as new shiney features they can easily still just as leave if the game was still having an appox 25% fail to battle rate.

The general consensus is that stuff will be announced at EVE FanFest which is is April 25-27.

Hopefully they'll announce something like "New build out today!" but you can be sure they won't be announcing "New build out last week!"

you could be right, but at the same time CCP could release it a week before fanfest and then talk about how great dust is going to be using the new build as an example at fanfest. To me.... Fanfest should be a time for CCP to actually start selling the idea of dust to the eve community. Too many eve players go on saying stuff like "what does dust mean to me?" "whats the point in caring about it if it doesn't benefit me?" well..... hopefully the new build will open the way to more interaction between us and eve players, and therefore create a great selling point for CCP to capitolize on and build up some hype about the game!

Of course just it took hammering after hammering and incarna riots to get ccp convinced to make a fix it patch.

After fanfest CCP has a vacation im pretty sure. (2 weeks I think) so it would probably be late may before we get the build.

BTW Wolf - I would like to say thanks for the intelligent and non-PR slanted conversation. Not once have I seen you blow things out of proportion or treat any of this as a personal attack. So, cheers to you.

^ Personally I dont want them to draw in new players until they make match making pug ganes friendly to new players.
(IE dont put them in games with me!)

We have probably lost enough new players because of the horrible game progression and learning curve.

would rather keep them out until i was proud to show them the game