I fully agree its marketing's fault but they're only doing it to get money for the company... There is still a faction warfare update on the way though, blog should be out in the month along with possible other blogs such as the map guys doing a blog on game types and going beyond the clone out and launcher games, and they will hit lightly on map design during that.

The word to use now a days is Soon
and not
Soon(tm)

They know the schedule, just that way scrum works is mostly alot of planning and researching first then sprinting like a mad rabbit getting away from a Cheetah.

I fully agree its marketing's fault but they're only doing it to get money for the company... There is still a faction warfare update on the way though, blog should be out in the month along with possible other blogs such as the map guys doing a blog on game types and going beyond the clone out and launcher games, and they will hit lightly on map design during that.

Defiance isnt that much of a threat. CCPs only real enemy right now is CCP. People are just tired of being jerked around with a promise to give you a promise about a tease in the future.

How do u get the defiance beta?

There is only one Dev blog I want to see, the one about the new build and its features. Not anything further in the future than that.

You know what would be better than a blog about new maps? New maps! Sound blog? New sounds!

CCP needs to stop making promises, and start delivering. Everything else is just BS. And that BS is getting to the point of making me say F it and just walking away from the game.




Maybe I am cynical, maybe I am a skeptic, or maybe I am a pessimist. This all reads like, we don't want to tell people how far out the actual update is, because if we did, then most of the playerbase would take a long break, and the sales of merc packs would dry up overnight.

People need to stop supporting this with their wallets until CCP gives the players something worth their cash. Considering the content on offer right now, they have been grossly overcompensated for what they have produced thus far.

The problem is that once you put money into the equation, you have to realize that the situation has completely changed. You are now responsible for delivering a product that people are paying for. CCP needs to realize that most players are not buying Merc Packs or AUR for the game as it is now, they are investing in what they hope that the game will become. The more disenfranchised people become as to when that date will be, the less they are willing to invest and the more bitter they will become that they put money into promises that always just seem to be on the horizon.

Look at what you posted. Its all about blogs that should be coming out promising things that will be out at another time. Its just more teases to promises about dates. Im not faulting you or the DEV team about this as its obvious that you cannot release information without the marketing seal of approval, but it is just the same ol same ol as far as players are concerned.

After fanfest CCP has a vacation im pretty sure. (2 weeks I think) so it would probably be late may before we get the build.

Considering that most devs dont have weekends in the launch rush or work overtime or at home after hours... yeah a short vacation after successful build launch does not surprise me to get over the hangovers.

Writing a dev blog is a complicated process. Requires peer reviews and editing and editors it also consumes quite a bit of developer's time. Best time to write blogs is right after majority of the feature completion and before the team gets reassigned to help other teams behind on tasks.

0.7 was promised to be a stability build, Devs championed it as a fix build and everyone that was mostly in the know in knew it was a fix build and a non content build.

0.8 is promised to be a major massive content build more so than most of the previous builds combined. From the things I have been seeing so far. Its going to deliver at least something, it wont be an empty build that 0.7 was I can grantee that. I would like to say though that in the future updates similar to 0.7 that is all fixes and no content are likely to happen again. While you will celebrate it for the first week, its benifits get quickly forgotten. Please stop proving marketing right on this aspect the fix patches do not draw in newer players like a new feature build does.

0.7 was promised to be a stability build, Devs championed it as a fix build and everyone that was mostly in the know in knew it was a fix build and a non content build.

0.8 is promised to be a major massive content build more so than most of the previous builds combined. From the things I have been seeing so far. Its going to deliver at least something, it wont be an empty build that 0.7 was I can grantee that. I would like to say though that in the future updates similar to 0.7 that is all fixes and no content are likely to happen again. While you will celebrate it for the first week, its benifits get quickly forgotten. Please stop proving marketing right on this aspect the fix patches do not draw in newer players like a new feature build does.

On the flip side problems and issues create a bad stigma over time and eventually while you may not get as many new players as new shiney features they can easily still just as leave if the game was still having an appox 25% fail to battle rate.

The general consensus is that stuff will be announced at EVE FanFest which is is April 25-27.

Hopefully they'll announce something like "New build out today!" but you can be sure they won't be announcing "New build out last week!"

you could be right, but at the same time CCP could release it a week before fanfest and then talk about how great dust is going to be using the new build as an example at fanfest. To me.... Fanfest should be a time for CCP to actually start selling the idea of dust to the eve community. Too many eve players go on saying stuff like "what does dust mean to me?" "whats the point in caring about it if it doesn't benefit me?" well..... hopefully the new build will open the way to more interaction between us and eve players, and therefore create a great selling point for CCP to capitolize on and build up some hype about the game!

Of course just it took hammering after hammering and incarna riots to get ccp convinced to make a fix it patch.

After fanfest CCP has a vacation im pretty sure. (2 weeks I think) so it would probably be late may before we get the build.

BTW Wolf - I would like to say thanks for the intelligent and non-PR slanted conversation. Not once have I seen you blow things out of proportion or treat any of this as a personal attack. So, cheers to you.

^ Personally I dont want them to draw in new players until they make match making pug ganes friendly to new players.
(IE dont put them in games with me!)

We have probably lost enough new players because of the horrible game progression and learning curve.

would rather keep them out until i was proud to show them the game