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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:40:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
I will say fanfest is the rare time ccp overhypes their games.
I cannot agree with this at all. The marketing department at CCP has consistently oversold Dust, and routinely talks about features that are nowhere near ready for primetime. It is perhaps the most frustrating thing about being involved with this beta.
To the OP, do not expect anything before Fanfest. If you do, you will be sorely disappointed.
Everyone should just cross their fingers that CCP isn't going to try and release 0.8 with the summer expansion due for EVE. That would be a colossal mistake IMO, because the last thing you want to do is have your new build try to retain players when The Last of Us drops in mid June.
The casuals are already drying up right now, they will perform a mass exodus for a few we
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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Version 0.8 has many many things inbound because all the things ccp was unable to test on the test severs are no longer affected. They have been furoisly mad logging all the stresses the game has had on ccp's tranqulility severs.
I don't completely agree with Steadyhand, but this sentence seems to me as you must know something we don't.
The only thing confirmed by the Devs so far for 0.8 is PC. Other than that I have not seen any rock solid confirmation of anything else in 0.8. Just a lot of speculation and half promises.
If the Devs are giving you information that we, as a community, are not getting, then either you need to tell us, or they need to stop sharing with just you.
Even if you are just a CCP alt, the manner in which this is conducted is really screwed. Are CCP so incapable of scheduling to know what is or is not going to be in the next build?
The only reason to not elaborate on what you plan for the next build is because you are deeply afraid of making any commitments, because you don't have the confidence to complete it on time, or with what you promise.
If CCP has so little faith in their Dev team to stay on schedule, or not break the game, then why are we even here? Why should I invest anymore money into amateur hour in Iceland/Shanghai? Just because they are making promises of an interesting game?
The really sad thing is, that the committed Eve fans are still buying Merc packs right now. They still need to get their 30 day actives, and spend Aurum on passive boosters to not become disadvantaged.
They are essentially paying a subscription for the beta, and as long as that remains the case, CCP does not need to advance any further. They will have no incentive for pushing forward as long as they are getting their small sliver of reliable income.
So if you want this game to move forward, show CCP that they don't deserve more of your money until they can start to get onto a committed schedule, and actually deliver.
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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.03.20 16:15:00 -
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Kitten Commander wrote:God help CCP if they announce a Summer launch for the build at Fanfest because you will see people walk away in droves as they are already tired of the vague hype.
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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.03.20 16:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
I fully agree its marketing's fault but they're only doing it to get money for the company... There is still a faction warfare update on the way though, blog should be out in the month along with possible other blogs such as the map guys doing a blog on game types and going beyond the clone out and launcher games, and they will hit lightly on map design during that.
There is only one Dev blog I want to see, the one about the new build and its features. Not anything further in the future than that.
You know what would be better than a blog about new maps? New maps! Sound blog? New sounds!
CCP needs to stop making promises, and start delivering. Everything else is just BS. And that BS is getting to the point of making me say F it and just walking away from the game.
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
The word to use now a days is Soon
and not
Soon(tm)
They know the schedule, just that way scrum works is mostly alot of planning and researching first then sprinting like a mad rabbit getting away from a Cheetah.
Maybe I am cynical, maybe I am a skeptic, or maybe I am a pessimist. This all reads like, we don't want to tell people how far out the actual update is, because if we did, then most of the playerbase would take a long break, and the sales of merc packs would dry up overnight.
People need to stop supporting this with their wallets until CCP gives the players something worth their cash. Considering the content on offer right now, they have been grossly overcompensated for what they have produced thus far. |
GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.03.20 18:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Writing a dev blog is a complicated process. Requires peer reviews and editing and editors it also consumes quite a bit of developer's time. Best time to write blogs is right after majority of the feature completion and before the team gets reassigned to help other teams behind on tasks.
And every second of that time spent on a dev blog, could have been better spent on something else. If they spent even 5 hours putting together the sound blog, it was a massive waste of time. Same goes for the VFX one.
I stand by my point, that the Dev blogs are nothing more than CCP wanting a pat on the back for work they haven't finished yet.
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
0.7 was promised to be a stability build, Devs championed it as a fix build and everyone that was mostly in the know in knew it was a fix build and a non content build.
0.8 is promised to be a major massive content build more so than most of the previous builds combined. From the things I have been seeing so far. Its going to deliver at least something, it wont be an empty build that 0.7 was I can grantee that. I would like to say though that in the future updates similar to 0.7 that is all fixes and no content are likely to happen again. While you will celebrate it for the first week, its benifits get quickly forgotten. Please stop proving marketing right on this aspect the fix patches do not draw in newer players like a new feature build does.
0.8 is promised as a major content build.
Promised.
All we know is that there will be maps on which we can fight, that will have one of three installations on a relatively featureless map to represent which of the 250 districts we are fighting in.
Nothing else has been confirmed to be in 0.8, except from some vague dev post or tweet.
So we are getting essentially three new maps(one for each type of installation), and the rest is all supposition. If that is a major content build, I am out of here.
Maybe we get weapons, maybe we get those long promised racial suits, maybe we get a player to player trading feature, and so on. That is too many maybes to hope for the future on. It is absolutely too many maybes for me to put another dime into this game.
IWS, I know that you are deeply committed to seeing the franchise succeed. Please stop glad handing for CCP though.
I find it offensive that they put you out front to speak for them instead of speaking for themselves. Either you are a dev alt, or they use you as a front to hide behind. Either way, let them speak about what is coming, because I can't get mad at you for their failings, and that is why they let you be their mouthpiece.
Stop helping them screw us. Please.
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