yeah..because blueberrys all turn on team chat before the game starts.

why do they let stupid people on the internet?

So what makes you think someone not on comms would turn on proxy chat then?

Proxy chat is fine... as long as it's entirely optional.

Simple solution, make it mandatory but I'm impartial to proxy chat because despite the "usefulness" of proxy chat it's mainly going to be used for trolling

I'm impartial to proxy chat because despite the "usefulness" of proxy chat it's mainly going to be used for trolling

Firing at someone can't be the default communication method.

Firing at someone can't be the default communication method. Besides being a waste of ammo, it will be viewed as aggressive when FF gets here. Wars between friendlies because some guy wanted a ride? sigh....

I've rarely seen proxy chat used for trolling.

Night at the Roxbury'ing a female model.

I still say that turning voice on by default is much, MUCH more important than prox chat.

And that prox chat doesn't have enough benefits to balance out the additional lag it would cause, and the illogical fact that enemies will be able to hear your encrypted voice transmissions while your acual voice is sealed inside an armoured suit.

If you had the option of an "open channel" broadcast where anyone in range could hear, that might be cool, but it should be something you trigger manually, not an automated system. You should be required to hold a button down to transmit.

Also, because they've already got enough functions to fill up the PS3 controller, we'd either need a rewrite of the control scheme or custom controls that let you drop functions you don't use off the controller (like push to talk).

You guys kill me. Both are important IMO.

For the last GD time: If I can hear bullets whiz past my head and explosions? I can hear a guy 5m away talking. Turn it off on non-air planets for all I care. But as long as I can hear SFX?

I can hear voices.

Don't use the realism card when it doesn't make any sense.

That realism statement is too dumb to warrant a response.

Some of you shoot down useful features witht weighin_g positives/negatives. Keep in mind right now Dust is an average shooter and very bland game. Its calling card is its persistence, depth and connection to EVE.

I'm not a graphics ***** by any means, but its "look" is below average. It NEEDS features that enhance its communication, connects players and make it stand out because of this. On several occasions people have commented that it "looks like a PS2 game."

Right now its also a game almost TOTALLY DEPENDENT on teamwork where players are almost totally cut-off from friendlies. Does that even compute?

This game NEEDS to make communication easy, and probably needs a killer social aspect more than any other in recent memory.

I hope the devs are more open-minded than the naysayers who've never played a game with proximity chat but of course, are certified experts on why it shouldn't be in the game.

For the last GD time: If I can hear bullets whiz past my head and explosions? I can hear a guy 5m away talking. Turn it off on non-air planets for all I care. But as long as I can hear SFX?

I can hear voices.

Guys, guys, guys.
See, sound only works in one direction. It's science. Realism.

You can hear what's going on outside of your helmet, but there's no way your voice could be heard going out.

Realism.

The helmets could have external mics that transfer any outside noise to the wearer....

I honestly don't understand why people are SO adamantly against proxy chat. The realism argument is stupid. (it always is, for anything related to videogames, unless you're playing a simulator)

Proxy chat would:
Make it easier to communicate with someone who isn't in your squad, and perhaps isn't in team chat. Besides, wouldn't it be faster to stand near a guy and talk, vs searching to find whatever channel they're in?

It would also add an element of depth to the game. Spying on opponents. Being able to stealthily get near (within 10m) an enemy and hear what their plans are. Or even just know they are around a corner because they can't shut their mouth. This would also give a little more reason for players to level up their stealth (using profile dampening skills and mods)

For those that say that the spying is a BS mechanic, I'd tell you to just shut your mouth ... problem solved. Or as many Eve guys would say... HTFU.

Regarding the trolling argument as it being the only thing players would do. You can say the same thing about LAVs and even guns. I've seen players purposefully TK others using the "runaway LAV" trick. I've also seen players spend SEVERAL minutes following a guy around just shooting hundreds of rounds into their back... just to be annyoing.

If someone is going to troll, they'll find a way. You cant keep out a useful tool for communication, because someone MIGHT use it to troll.

I honestly don't understand why people are SO adamantly against proxy chat. The realism argument is stupid. (it always is, for anything related to videogames, unless you're playing a simulator)

Proxy chat would:
Make it easier to communicate with someone who isn't in your squad, and perhaps isn't in team chat. Besides, wouldn't it be faster to stand near a guy and talk, vs searching to find whatever channel they're in?

It would also add an element of depth to the game. Spying on opponents. Being able to stealthily get near (within 10m) an enemy and hear what their plans are. Or even just know they are around a corner because they can't shut their mouth. This would also give a little more reason for players to level up their stealth (using profile dampening skills and mods)

For those that say that the spying is a BS mechanic, I'd tell you to just shut your mouth ... problem solved. Or as many Eve guys would say... HTFU.

Regarding the trolling argument as it being the only thing players would do. You can say the same thing about LAVs and even guns. I've seen players purposefully TK others using the "runaway LAV" trick. I've also seen players spend SEVERAL minutes following a guy around just shooting hundreds of rounds into their back... just to be annyoing.

If someone is going to troll, they'll find a way. You cant keep out a useful tool for communication, because someone MIGHT use it to troll.

Right, because everyone takes the game super seriously and is constantly talking about tactics. You're assuming that everything that goes into a mic is valuable information, which makes me assume you've never actually listened to people on teamchat. Go on, the amount of people there bumping country music, or watching a movie, or just saying stupid **** is surprising. because of that, I insist that it should be a push to talk only feature. If that means no spying, then too bad.

I agree with you, 75% of the time you have either idiots jabbering on about crap, or somebody blasting bad music. With proxy chat, it STILL wouldn't affect you. You just walk away so that you are outside of the 5/10/15m (whatever CCP decides)range, and the sound fades and stops.

You haven't really played a game with proxy chat...have you?

In NO way does the inclusion of proxy chat make the current crap that is on team/squad chat any worse.

I keep hearing from all the pro-proxy people that there is no reason not to implement it, but I hear no good reason TO implement it. The "talking to blueberries" argument is flimsy at best considering blueberries all leave their voice chat in the defaulted "off" position, trash talking is just for trolls, and learning the location of enemies that won't shut their mouth is just ridiculous. Are you telling me my advanced technology can't stop my voice from reaching across a vacuum? (Even if there isn't a vacuum I'm still going to stick with my "advanced technology stopping my voice" argument.)