Proxy chat is a ton of fun. Nothing beats hearing fallen enemies try to put together insults through their tears.
It's also good for guiding those pesky blue dots though.

Funny how the biggest complaint is that enemies would be able to hear your tactics. God forbid you have to shut your mouth once in a while

People against proxy are obviously nerds with lisps trying to deny me my fun.

The way it worked in MAG was pretty simple. The people in your squad would come through your headset. Just as it is in Dust now. But everyone else would come through your tv (for example, if you're playing Dust with your headset turned off while in a squad of people who are using mics), but only if you were close enough to them.

It works pretty well for a few reasons. First, imagine every time you have a repair tool, start repairing someone, then they run away. You could easily just say "Hey xXsnatchslayer69Xx, let me repair you." xXsnatchslayer69Xx would hear his own name through the tv, even without owning a mic, turn and see you shooting the magic yellow glow in his direction and wait for it. Or vice versa.

It can be applied in dozens of ways (ammo, calling out enemy positions, coordinating through squads, etc., etc.). But the ability to hear your name specifically from a stranger, even who doesn't have a mic, makes them act differently than being totally shut off from each other. It also works wonders since its totally temporary and location specific. It's not like you have this constant chat buzz coming through your screen.

I'm still amazed that proxy chat in FPS hasn't become more of a gold standard.

For the last GD time: If I can hear bullets whiz past my head and explosions? I can hear a guy 5m away talking. Turn it off on non-air planets for all I care. But as long as I can hear SFX?

I can hear voices.

Guys, guys, guys.
See, sound only works in one direction. It's science. Realism.

You can hear what's going on outside of your helmet, but there's no way your voice could be heard going out.

Realism.

I honestly don't understand why people are SO adamantly against proxy chat. The realism argument is stupid. (it always is, for anything related to videogames, unless you're playing a simulator)

Proxy chat would:
Make it easier to communicate with someone who isn't in your squad, and perhaps isn't in team chat. Besides, wouldn't it be faster to stand near a guy and talk, vs searching to find whatever channel they're in?

It would also add an element of depth to the game. Spying on opponents. Being able to stealthily get near (within 10m) an enemy and hear what their plans are. Or even just know they are around a corner because they can't shut their mouth. This would also give a little more reason for players to level up their stealth (using profile dampening skills and mods)

For those that say that the spying is a BS mechanic, I'd tell you to just shut your mouth ... problem solved. Or as many Eve guys would say... HTFU.

Regarding the trolling argument as it being the only thing players would do. You can say the same thing about LAVs and even guns. I've seen players purposefully TK others using the "runaway LAV" trick. I've also seen players spend SEVERAL minutes following a guy around just shooting hundreds of rounds into their back... just to be annyoing.

If someone is going to troll, they'll find a way. You cant keep out a useful tool for communication, because someone MIGHT use it to troll.

I agree with you, 75% of the time you have either idiots jabbering on about crap, or somebody blasting bad music. With proxy chat, it STILL wouldn't affect you. You just walk away so that you are outside of the 5/10/15m (whatever CCP decides)range, and the sound fades and stops.

You haven't really played a game with proxy chat...have you?

In NO way does the inclusion of proxy chat make the current crap that is on team/squad chat any worse.

Yeah like Dave said, why would you want any fun in a video game.

This dull trash is just great the way it is.

People like you remind me of children who automaticaly say ''I don't like it'' but have never tried it.

Is your "type" paying attention? I've been reading responses to all of the stupid all over this thread but guys aren't getting it. I have to tolerate additions like iron sights with no attachments, FF just to allow spies to TK, weapon damage flattening, etc...but one thing that will help improve gameplay and be useful on the battlefield....half the community shoots down.

I tell you what....download the MAG demo and play a few games and see if proxy chat is harmful in any way. Most of the time, you don't hear people.

Unbelievable...that we have to defend something so fundamental! You mean to tell me that if we're in squad chat...and there's a red dot that just spawned in behind us....that we should stop, press select, go to teamchat and hope that the blue is there just to warn him?? I am no longer underestimating the bluedot stupid