Gun play is the heart and soul of any FPS. Vehicles are added to give a little variety so things don't get boring

People actually play vanilla Ambush?

This is the fundamental disagreement behind this issue, I think. I'm a person that couldn't give a good gorram about "gun play". To me there are plenty of things other than assault rifles that contribute to the fun. In fact I find the circle-strafing and bunny-hopping of "gun play" to be moronic and unfun.

Which, whatever, everyone's idea of fun is different and all that after school special crap. But I'm not interested in being forced into that playstyle just because the people who like it won't adapt to mine.

This is the fundamental disagreement behind this issue, I think. I'm a person that couldn't give a good gorram about "gun play". To me there are plenty of things other than assault rifles that contribute to the fun. In fact I find the circle-strafing and bunny-hopping of "gun play" to be moronic and unfun.

Which, whatever, everyone's idea of fun is different and all that after school special crap. But I'm not interested in being forced into that playstyle just because the people who like it won't adapt to mine.

I hate bunny hopping. It is silly, unrealistic, and in no way a practical way to advance on an enemy while firing a weapon.

Same with side to side quick strafing. No one does this in reality, it is only in FPS's and I wish it too could die in New Eden.

I hate bunny hopping. It is silly, unrealistic, and in no way a practical way to advance on an enemy while firing a weapon.

Same with side to side quick strafing. No one does this in reality, it is only in FPS's and I wish it too could die in New Eden.

yea everyone should stand still like statues and shoot each other in the face until one dies. Sounds fun.

Eventually people will finish optimizing their primary fits and start skilling into their AV fits. Then the Tank dynamic will change a bit.

Because removing bunny hopping = standing still.

Go watch our military units (Seals, Recon, hell any unit at all) advance / retreat in combat. None of them jump up and down like morons while advancing and firing. Doing this is ridiculous, unrealistic, and would cause you to fall over due to recoil / losing your balance. It's stupid, and the only reason it exists is because the controls allow it. Just make it so you can either jump or fire. Not both.

Because removing bunny hopping = standing still.

Go watch our military units (Seals, Recon, hell any unit at all) advance / retreat in combat. None of them jump up and down like morons while advancing and firing. Doing this is ridiculous, unrealistic, and would cause you to fall over due to recoil / losing your balance. It's stupid, and the only reason it exists is because the controls allow it. Just make it so you can either jump or fire. Not both.

are you for real with this "real life" crap? In case you haven't noticed, this is a game. Want to play real life games join the army.

There's "suspension of disbelief for the sake of balance" and there's "completely immersion breakingly ridiculous." Dropsuits and spaceships and giant lasers from the sky fall into the former category because, while impossible, they at least fit into the theme of the universe where they're set. Circle-strafing and bunny-hopping are the latter, because they don't fit into any universe.

That said, I haven't the foggiest idea what would help to fix it. Cover mechanics don't work in a game where it takes this many bullets to die.

There's "suspension of disbelief for the sake of balance" and there's "completely immersion breakingly ridiculous." Dropsuits and spaceships and giant lasers from the sky fall into the former category because, while impossible, they at least fit into the theme of the universe where they're set. Circle-strafing and bunny-hopping are the latter, because they don't fit into any universe.

That said, I haven't the foggiest idea what would help to fix it. Cover mechanics don't work in a game where it takes this many bullets to die.

This is what I was trying to say, albeit poorly.

Future or not, bunny hopping is just ridiculous. And to say it isn't is just... wow.

bump! really interested to see a dev comment on this.

yea everyone should stand still like statues and shoot each other in the face until one dies. Sounds fun. Can't make the game too difficult for the scrubs.

I'm not an FPS player, there's no FPS for me to go back to. It's also largely transparent to me, since thank god DUST gives me the option of using vehicles pretty much exclusively. Then, behold, a thread pops up calling for infantry-only game modes. This translates to a game mode that all non AV infantry will use, because it's easy mode for them. So what happens to me and my dropship? I'm stuck either in infantry game mode with you ground pounders or in the vehicles mode with other HAVs and AV infantry. Given the extreme cost of vehicles it'd be impossible to support that playstyle with such a division. In other words, an infantry only game mode could very easily result in the obsolescence of vehicles outside of corp battles.

So, to pull a complete 180 and bring this topic back where it started, infantry only game modes are bad.