I bet some eve fanboy is raging so bad this guy called it aura not aurum.

Ok its ok for new people coming to dust before 4:00 min... after 4min its TROLL city guys- get em....

LOL he doesnGÇÖt know what he is talking about! He probably downloaded the game played it for a day or two then made his ridiculous review!

Nice response btw!

Nice job with the video and commentary DS. I think I'll subscribe out of support.

If you haven't seen his review, here's a link. Try not to laugh at his crazy voice.
SmithCommaBenjamin's Review

It caught the attention of Reddit and Dust's Twitter team, so I made a response video to it.
My Response

Hope everyone enjoys!

the funny thing is, if you watch his first video of dust, he says he loves it, and recommends it.

Frankly, you sound like the biggest CCP fanboy I've ever heard. Nothing Benjamin said was wrong.

My connection is great, and I experience zero lag problems when I play BO2 and get horrible, horrible framerate lag on Dust 514(he said lag btw, not disconnecting from the host, smartass) and my PS3 will literally freeze when it gets at its worst.

Aurum doesn't buy SP? maybe you don't understand this, but getting MORE SP is buying SP, granted it doesn't give a massive advantage, but Aurum DOES buy SP to a degree.

The spawn system IS complete ****, I'm glad you were able to overcome your fanboyism long enough to admit that.

You seem to think beta is justification for this game failing at so many aspects. No.

I started your video thinking you actually believed what you were saying, not that you were a fanboy, but when you started making personal attacks against his gaming skill because you were raging so hard at his review tipped me off to your fanaticism.

5:52 of your review: "In conclusion, your entire review of the game kinda just made you seem kinda like an arrogant prick..."
Funny, I was thinking the same about yours.

Another thing, since CCP never stated exactly what 514 means, you can say it however the f*ck you want, five hundred four, five one four, five fourteen, it's all the same, which is one of my reasons for thinking you were an arrogant prick.

And I am telling you this, not some guy that joined up a week ago and has no idea about the game, I, who has played since Replication, someone who still thinks this game can be something, am saying that this review shitting on this game is true, and trying to make excuses is exactly why this things won't get fixed.

If I came off as an as*hole in this comment (and I know I did) then it was because I was copying exactly what you sounded like to me when I was hearing your rage anti-review. I am now ready for your response that will deny everything I said, blame my connection for my lag, and overall make you look more like a fanboy. (and I'm sure you make plenty of insults on me as well)

TL;DR for you lazy mercs, Benjamin represents the CoD kiddies that have joined Dust because they saw it's advertisement of open beta, he thinks it's ****, they think it's ****, then the player base drops, then funding to this game drops, then this game dies. Criticize the game to make it better, don't **** on anyone that doesn't like game made by the golden and legendary CCP just because you like CCP.

Someone mentioned MAG

This was hilarious, and saddening at the same time. This is how most new, especially COD/Battlefield players view this game.

Guess I'll just troll him in the comments section. I hope your response actually gets views, since his is skyrocketing.

I subscribed to mafiabrett's videos for his DUST content, and watched one of his MAG videos out of curiosity. DUST is my first FPS. MAG's UI is terrible. The scenery looks great, but holy kitten the rest looks like ****.

Aurum doesn't buy SP? maybe you don't understand this, but getting MORE SP is buying SP, granted it doesn't give a massive advantage, but Aurum DOES buy SP to a degree.

Setting a FRAGO, takes 1-2 seconds in MAG, can easily take twice the time in Dust if not more.

If you haven't seen his review, here's a link. Try not to laugh at his crazy voice.
SmithCommaBenjamin's Review

It caught the attention of Reddit and Dust's Twitter team, so I made a response video to it.
My Response

Hope everyone enjoys!

Lol best review of dust yet! So honest and free of fanboyism. Sorry CCP but that video was spot on, the tongue in cheek raspy voice and metal in the background was especially hilarious. Guy know his way around the game too , you could tell when he used game specific terms like head glitch.

I bet some eve fanboy is raging so bad this guy called it aura not aurum.

God forbid someone has a different opinion.

Lol best review of dust yet! So honest and free of fanboyism. Sorry CCP but that video was spot on, the tongue in cheek raspy voice and metal in the background was especially hilarious. Guy know his way around the game too , you could tell when he used game specific terms like head glitch.

I bet some eve fanboy is raging so bad this guy called it aura not aurum.

The whole pay-to-win argument is very finely balanced, until you consider the reduced CPU AUR options.

AUR complex Heavy damage mods with vastly reduced CPU to facilitate stacking - what's the non-AUR option there?

The whole pay-to-win argument is very finely balanced, until you consider the reduced CPU AUR options.

AUR complex Heavy damage mods with vastly reduced CPU to facilitate stacking - what's the non-AUR option there?

If you haven't seen his review, here's a link. Try not to laugh at his crazy voice.
SmithCommaBenjamin's Review

It caught the attention of Reddit and Dust's Twitter team, so I made a response video to it.
My Response

Hope everyone enjoys!

True, at least until we get the market going.

I am just glad the game is filtering out idiots.

This is typical of the elitist attitude that will surely kill this game dead if it ever gets an official release.

The small subset of player who figure that anyone who doesn't "get it" must be stupid, or a CoD fanboy, is really starting to get on my nerves.

I enjoy Dust, and I am really hopeful for where the game might end up in the future, but that does not make me blind to the fact that most of the people I have pushed to try Dust have not stayed with it, and their complaints all have merit to some degree or another.

The game has problems, and is not at all welcoming to new players. The community, especially the upper echelon players, have this elitist mindset that serves only to make this worse. If all new players can expect to find if they bring up any sort of complaint is to be told to HTFU, or QQ more, or "get gud scrub", then soon enough there won't even be a need for a launch, they can just call it pubstars 514 and leave the 1000 players that stay to throw Aurum at the wall for their "elite" lobby shooter.

Too many people judging what they expect to receive from CCP over the next year, instead of looking at what we have now. What you can download from the PSN store is what counts, not what CCP is promising. And the package you can download today is a five map, two mode lobby shooter with a ridiculously high level progression, and dated graphics.

Some people just want to play. This is not the super serious EvE bunch. It's the guys who just want to have some fun. They're not interested in being taught how to play. They want a game which is accessible and fun. Dust fails on those 2. It's why my friends played replication, and 1 day of each build since. Replication was fun.

We're so far from where this game started, and no closer (from Dust perspective) to what was promised. FUBAR.

This is typical of the elitist attitude that will surely kill this game dead if it ever gets an official release.

The small subset of player who figure that anyone who doesn't "get it" must be stupid, or a CoD fanboy, is really starting to get on my nerves.

I enjoy Dust, and I am really hopeful for where the game might end up in the future, but that does not make me blind to the fact that most of the people I have pushed to try Dust have not stayed with it, and their complaints all have merit to some degree or another.

The game has problems, and is not at all welcoming to new players. The community, especially the upper echelon players, have this elitist mindset that serves only to make this worse. If all new players can expect to find if they bring up any sort of complaint is to be told to HTFU, or QQ more, or "get gud scrub", then soon enough there won't even be a need for a launch, they can just call it pubstars 514 and leave the 1000 players that stay to throw Aurum at the wall for their "elite" lobby shooter.

Too many people judging what they expect to receive from CCP over the next year, instead of looking at what we have now. What you can download from the PSN store is what counts, not what CCP is promising. And the package you can download today is a five map, two mode lobby shooter with a ridiculously high level progression, and dated graphics.

Actually from what I have seen your entire argument is wrong. People are more than wiling to help players learn the ins and outs of this game. When you see people say the HTFU or QQ more is when new players get on and ask to be babied by CCP. IE I want permalocks on my tanks/lavs/dropships I call in so that only I can drive it since I called it in and spent the money. Or I want snipers to do more dmg as I cant 1 shot kill someone from the hill behind my redline unless I hit them in the head.

Its usually these types of posts that create alot of the HTFU or QQ more type of posts. If a new player gets on and tries to write a review based on their opinion and they dont understand several aspects of the game or missed things then usually most of the posters will discuss it with them (yes there is always some trolling in all threads but if you discount those the majority of posts either discuss the issue or try to help the OP)

The biggest problem with todays gamers is that most gamers want the dev to hold their hand to help them win. They dont want to feel like they are bad at a game when they are....instead if they can get the dev to help them maintain at least a 1:1 KDR they are happy. Although CCP has noobed up alot of things this game is still more hardcore than the majority of games on the market. As a result we have more people getting on the forums wanting training wheels to assist in their bad playing.

In MAG, if you're not familiar with the system, it can easily take twice as long as you're claiming.
In DUST, if you're familiar with the system, you can easily set a squad order in 1 - 2 seconds.

I can, at least.

Yes let's compare the two like that

Gunplay and controls are better in MAG than DUST, faster, smoother, better.

It wasn't his opinion that made me do the video. It was the misinformation he had in the video. I made sure to back up my statements with some sort of proof.

As far as comparing CoD to Dust, I only did that because that's what the original video did. I know the two games are different.

Thanks to everyone for the support!

There won't be a market as people seem more than happy to P2W.

I have called it 5 14 from the time they announced its inception. Why is it even a big deal?

I'm not saying everything is equal, or that DUST is a finished product. Just that with the specific example used, the system in DUST is actually not bad.

Some people just want to play. This is not the super serious EvE bunch. It's the guys who just want to have some fun. They're not interested in being taught how to play. They want a game which is accessible and fun. Dust fails on those 2. It's why my friends played replication, and 1 day of each build since. Replication was fun.

We're so far from where this game started, and no closer (from Dust perspective) to what was promised. FUBAR.

tbh, this game (like eve) isn't intended for nublets without the will to learn. as CCP said in their interviews, this is to get people clued up into getting into EVE - A much more complex arena. The attitude stays the say, you either learn it, or you don't. COD caters for the far end of the scale "plug 'n play" gamer, which is about as deep on game play as cup of ****.

tbh, this game (like eve) isn't intended for nublets without the will to learn. as CCP said in their interviews, this is to get people clued up into getting into EVE - A much more complex arena. The attitude stays the say, you either learn it, or you don't. COD caters for the far end of the scale "plug 'n play" gamer, which is about as deep on game play as cup of ****.

That target audience will never get the game from day 1.....2... week 3 and given up by month 4. It's not the game at fault, it's their lack of investment to understand the game. He probably didn't even know there were chat rooms where he could ask people questions :p and as a result, half of his information is made up.

To the bolded:

You do realize this is a game right? A free download that doesn't come with a warning that you have to be prepared to invest time and much mental faculties into it?

Does the description in the PS store tell people that before they download they should HTFU?

Saying that as a prerequisite for someone daring to try the game that they should be prepared for a serious investment of time to not suck is one hell of a hurdle to ask people to cross, for a game

Right now, the game that is asking people to jump that hurdle is a mess. No content, bad matchmaking, incomplete documentation, and more, and you want people to saddle up, book off a weekend and get down to it? For what? To get ready for some potential space war that might start at the end of the year? Or to not be behind the guys out front if this game ever gets it act together?

And Le douche

The dude makes some good points on the video (along with the replies of some other people) but the game doesn't suck. The game is pretty good. A lot of people want to compare this game to COD and call it bad. He exaggerated a little with the pay-to-win angle.1. this game isn't pay to win. He said that you would have to play 100 games to make the same amount of Sp as someone who has Aurum. That's not true. Aurum just gives you the ability to buy boosters and blueprint items and some aurum only items*. Also, i don't know if any of you noticed but the Aurum dropsuits are the same dropsuits you can buy with isk, just with a different name (along with other items. The only advantage that Aurum gives is that you can buy boosters, and blueprint items so you can use your isk somewhere else. But the game is NOT pay to win.

* A lot of aurum only items have the same type item sold for isk.

P.S: If you don't like this game, please just stop playing and don't try to convince other people to leave. The people who like this game want a big community, not a one that doesn't like the game. We aren't gonna be crying if you leave. Nobody cares if you like this game or not, just don't try to tell people that the game sucks because you got spawn killed.

There are certain things that are P2W, without a doubt. The complex damage mods with lower requirements being the biggest one. Then there are things like pay to get ahead, and even those come in different quantities. However we are reaching a point where those that have used boosters now have a massive SP lead on non-boosters, and an order of magnitude more SP than noobs. This is fine, but don't pretend that it isn't a tiered subscription model.

So then it becomes pay to catch up, or pay to not get stomped. Neither of which are effective business models. Especially in the FPS genre.

Your post script is insulting though. I don't know how you came to be here, but I paid to get into the closed beta. I'm here because I want to be here, and I want the game to be good. I really support CCP in their vision, and I hope they can reach the lofty goals they have set for themselves. So yes, CCP should care if I like the game or not, because I am the exact type of customer they are looking for, someone who wants to be involved with Dust for years, and is eager to see it live up to its potential.

Why is it that if you are critical of something people assume you dislike it? If I don't think the EU fishing policy accurately represents the best interests of Scottish fisheries that does not mean I think the EU sucks.

Lol best review of dust yet! So honest and free of fanboyism. Sorry CCP but that video was spot on, the tongue in cheek raspy voice and metal in the background was especially hilarious. Guy know his way around the game too , you could tell when he used game specific terms like head glitch.

I bet some eve fanboy is raging so bad this guy called it aura not aurum.

Nice to see these forums are still completely over run with ccp fanboy pole smokers.

I've stopped telling my friends to play this game bc I'm too tired defending it bc deep down I know it's not worth defending at this point . Maybe one day it will be good but I won't stop criticizing this game bc some arrogant fanboy things htfu is the solution to all the games problems. The truth is this game is not complicated either, it just had a terrible user interface. The delay in the menus of the neocom is enough to make anyone quit. The terrible delay and clunkinness in every menu is damning upon itself. Why is it when I access the market the first thing I have to do is press left on the d pad so I can actually scroll through the list? Every damn time you have to do that, I don't think I've ever clicked a damn thing in the store front

The game is t complicated, it's the user interface and horrible delay in virtually everything you do (including reloading) that makes this game such a chore!

There are certain things that are P2W, without a doubt. The complex damage mods with lower requirements being the biggest one.

What? You mean less skill to use? That's how all the AUR items are.

Do you ever press triangle and compare guns or equipment?

So far i havent seen any "cosmetic" product being sold without some advantage attached to it.

Of course one AUR weapon doesnt do much but a whole AURUM fitting does.

David Reid knows nothing , he just repeats some lies coming down from CCP because he has the tongue to spin your little heads.

Wow, that review was....complete and utter ****. He didn't actually explain how the dropsuit mechanics work, made a completely terrible point that "you HAVE to use Aurum" to win, which you don't. I've rolled over people that use Aurum fits in militia gear. You can play this game with pure ISK and do fine.

Also, his point that it takes 6-7 seconds to reload your gun...jesus christ man, that's a more realistic time than say 1-2 seconds like CoD...and his point about Skirmish...

But still, his opinion is his own, regardless of if I like it and all that. Dug your 'counter review' though man o7

Did you notice the reloading while sprinting?
Me neither.
Ten months and we are still missing basic and core gameplay elements.

Because we want what was offered. What we have now is not even as persistent as MAG. Because you can't see ANYTHING about the universe you are in. You can't see what systems in FW are good targets, or anything. Atleast in MAG the reds were the bad guys, the objectives were the only way to win games, and winning games gave you rewards for your whole faction.

I get that this "game/beta" isn't finished. SOONtm / being looked at / has been tested ISN'T enough though.
Here is a good example of my concerns:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Walking_in_stations
Something's just take too long... We just want what attracted us to Dust in the first place.

Where did my star map go? :(

Nah, there's some with lower CPU and PG requirements.

Like what? I hear people talking about them but I've never seen any that are like that.

Seismic Complex Heavy damage modifier
Sliver Complex Sidearm damage modifier

Both use 23 CPU and 4 PG less than the ISK counter parts.

Tether Complex Shield Regulator uses 11 less CPU and 1 less PG

Schism Viziam Repair Tool uses 16 CPU and 4 PG less

Now, it isn't that big a deal, but those items are absolutely pay to win, if only because you cannot under any circumstances get a similar item for ISK, at least until we have P2P trading. Even then, I doubt those items w

Bug report them.

Seismic Complex Heavy damage modifier
Sliver Complex Sidearm damage modifier

Both use 23 CPU and 4 PG less than the ISK counter parts.

Tether Complex Shield Regulator uses 11 less CPU and 1 less PG

Schism Viziam Repair Tool uses 16 CPU and 4 PG less

Now, it isn't that big a deal, but those items are absolutely pay to win, if only because you cannot under any circumstances get a similar item for ISK, at least until we have P2P trading. Even then, I doubt those items w

How in the holy hell did I miss those? Have they always been there? Guess I just didn't look all the way down once I hit Weaponry V.

At least since the open started.

Go forth, and enjoy P2W.

The video had valid points, although slightly misninformed

The fanboyism present here is a bad omen for the future of this game.

It isnt a tough game, but simply clunky and without any real meat to it right now.

Too many people judging what they expect to receive from CCP over the next year, instead of looking at what we have now. What you can download from the PSN store is what counts, not what CCP is promising. And the package you can download today is a five map, two mode lobby shooter with a ridiculously high level progression, and dated graphics.

I admire CCPs presence in the community, but making this far-from-finished game an open beta has already tainted far too many experiences. And even worse, they are accepting money for an unfinished product.

I really dont think that this game isnt all the complicated although the fitting system , skill system , and market system is probably the reasons new players thinks it is, but on the ground there's nothing special about it besides losing your stuff every time you die , but since you buy everything in mass and since money can be easy to come buy it real doesnt mean all that much imo. I been playing since replication and I fail to see how this game is close to as "harsh" as Eve online.