DUST Search - My Response to the Worst Review of Dust 514

Logi Bro wrote:

Frankly, you sound like the biggest CCP fanboy I've ever heard. Nothing Benjamin said was wrong.

My connection is great, and I experience zero lag problems when I play BO2 and get horrible, horrible framerate lag on Dust 514(he said lag btw, not disconnecting from the host, smartass) and my PS3 will literally freeze when it gets at its worst.

Aurum doesn't buy SP? maybe you don't understand this, but getting MORE SP is buying SP, granted it doesn't give a massive advantage, but Aurum DOES buy SP to a degree.

The spawn system IS complete ****, I'm glad you were able to overcome your fanboyism long enough to admit that.

You seem to think beta is justification for this game failing at so many aspects. No.

I started your video thinking you actually believed what you were saying, not that you were a fanboy, but when you started making personal attacks against his gaming skill because you were raging so hard at his review tipped me off to your fanaticism.

5:52 of your review: "In conclusion, your entire review of the game kinda just made you seem kinda like an arrogant prick..."
Funny, I was thinking the same about yours.

Another thing, since CCP never stated exactly what 514 means, you can say it however the f*ck you want, five hundred four, five one four, five fourteen, it's all the same, which is one of my reasons for thinking you were an arrogant prick.

And I am telling you this, not some guy that joined up a week ago and has no idea about the game, I, who has played since Replication, someone who still thinks this game can be something, am saying that this review shitting on this game is true, and trying to make excuses is exactly why this things won't get fixed.

If I came off as an as*hole in this comment (and I know I did) then it was because I was copying exactly what you sounded like to me when I was hearing your rage anti-review. I am now ready for your response that will deny everything I said, blame my connection for my lag, and overall make you look more like a fanboy. (and I'm sure you make plenty of insults on me as well)

TL;DR for you lazy mercs, Benjamin represents the CoD kiddies that have joined Dust because they saw it's advertisement of open beta, he thinks it's ****, they think it's ****, then the player base drops, then funding to this game drops, then this game dies. Criticize the game to make it better, don't **** on anyone that doesn't like game made by the golden and legendary CCP just because you like CCP.

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DS 10 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 10	Posted - 2013.03.12 01:55:00 - [1] - Quote If you haven't seen his review, here's a link. Try not to laugh at his crazy voice. SmithCommaBenjamin's Review It caught the attention of Reddit and Dust's Twitter team, so I made a response video to it. My Response Hope everyone enjoys!
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 400	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:08:00 - [2] - Quote This was hilarious, and saddening at the same time. This is how most new, especially COD/Battlefield players view this game. Guess I'll just troll him in the comments section. I hope your response actually gets views, since his is skyrocketing.
Chi-Chi Chikubi On The Brink 11	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:08:00 - [3] - Quote LOL he doesnGÇÖt know what he is talking about! He probably downloaded the game played it for a day or two then made his ridiculous review! Nice response btw!
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 173	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:12:00 - [4] - Quote Lol best review of dust yet! So honest and free of fanboyism. Sorry CCP but that video was spot on, the tongue in cheek raspy voice and metal in the background was especially hilarious. Guy know his way around the game too , you could tell when he used game specific terms like head glitch. I bet some eve fanboy is raging so bad this guy called it aura not aurum.
Torr Wrath Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 83	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:24:00 - [5] - Quote The first video hurt my brain.. please tell me that the first video is a troll.. no one is that dumb right? ... guys? right? :(
DS 10 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 13	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:33:00 - [6] - Quote He got views because CCP's Twitterers caught wind of it and tweeted out the link and someone posted it on Reddit. What's sad is he has 400+ subscribers and 300ish views, most of which came from us. I don't care though. And Torr, he was serious. Read the comments of the video.
Thrawn01 Aldeland Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 15	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:39:00 - [7] - Quote Firestorm Zulu wrote: I bet some eve fanboy is raging so bad this guy called it aura not aurum. no rage just saddened. Aurum is Latin for gold. Why the symbol for gold is Au. I actually thought it was clever when CCP selected it for the name of currency. However they did not create the word.
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 93	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:39:00 - [8] - Quote Ok its ok for new people coming to dust before 4:00 min... after 4min its TROLL city guys- get em....
DS 10 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 17	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:50:00 - [9] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: Ok its ok for new people coming to dust before 4:00 min... after 4min its TROLL city guys- get em.... I'd like to think he was trolling, but if you read his comments you'll see he really hates the game
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 362	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:53:00 - [10] - Quote Chi-Chi Chikubi wrote: LOL he doesnGÇÖt know what he is talking about! He probably downloaded the game played it for a day or two then made his ridiculous review! Nice response btw! I tried helping him learn the game. I have been a friend of Ben's for awhile, and I shouldnt of shed light on his review video not thinking about the hate that would follow lol. But I explained to him today that there is loyal followers of Dust 514 including myself,and that if something is broke,we will be the first to agree that yes....its broke,but in this case the points he broight up is null and void.

Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 192	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:59:00 - [11] - Quote Nice job with the video and commentary DS. I think I'll subscribe out of support.
DS 10 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 17	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:05:00 - [12] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: Nice job with the video and commentary DS. I think I'll subscribe out of support. Awesome! If only more people thought like you! It was my first true commentary ever.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 919	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:19:00 - [13] - Quote Frankly, you sound like the biggest CCP fanboy I've ever heard. Nothing Benjamin said was wrong. My connection is great, and I experience zero lag problems when I play BO2 and get horrible, horrible framerate lag on Dust 514(he said lag btw, not disconnecting from the host, smartass) and my PS3 will literally freeze when it gets at its worst. Aurum doesn't buy SP? maybe you don't understand this, but getting MORE SP is buying SP, granted it doesn't give a massive advantage, but Aurum DOES buy SP to a degree. The spawn system IS complete ***, I'm glad you were able to overcome your fanboyism long enough to admit that. You seem to think beta is justification for this game failing at so many aspects. No. I started your video thinking you actually believed what you were saying, not that you were a fanboy, but when you started making personal attacks against his gaming skill because you were raging so hard at his review tipped me off to your fanaticism. 5:52 of your review: "In conclusion, your entire review of the game kinda just made you seem kinda like an arrogant prick..." Funny, I was thinking the same about yours. Another thing, since CCP never stated exactly what 514 means, you can say it however the fck you want, five hundred four, five one four, five fourteen, it's all the same, which is one of my reasons for thinking you were an arrogant prick. And I am telling you this, not some guy that joined up a week ago and has no idea about the game, I, who has played since Replication, someone who still thinks this game can be something, am saying that this review shitting on this game is true, and trying to make excuses is exactly why this things won't get fixed. If I came off as an ashole in this comment (and I know I did) then it was because I was copying exactly what you sounded like to me when I was hearing your rage anti-review. I am now ready for your response that will deny everything I said, blame my connection for my lag, and overall make you look more like a fanboy. (and I'm sure you make plenty of insults on me as well) TL;DR for you lazy mercs, Benjamin represents the CoD kiddies that have joined Dust because they saw it's advertisement of open beta, he thinks it's *, they think it's , then the player base drops, then funding to this game drops, then this game dies. Criticize the game to make it better, don't ** on anyone that doesn't like game made by the golden and legendary CCP just because you like CCP.
Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 192	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:09:00 - [14] - Quote Come now LogiBro. Breathe. I am a DUST vet. Granted, I joined at the end of replication, so I'm not as old as you. I have long outgrown my 'passion' for DUST. I currently grind much more out of habit than enjoyment. That being said I think DS deserves some credit. I have played DUST for almost a year and haven't experienced many instances of extreme lag. I agree that my PS3 has experienced more hard freezes on DUST than on any other game. My connection, however, is pretty good. I'm not going to blame your connection for your lag. I will offer some possible solutions. Your game play could be a bit slower if you haven't uninstalled and re-installed DUST in a while. I did that a month or so ago and things have been a little better since. Secondly, I disagree with the way you phrased the argument: "Aurum buys SP", at least in the way that you described it. When you pay money for skill boosters, you don't get any more SP for the purchase. You increase the potential for SP growth - that was paid for with cash. However, all you have truly purchased with an active SP booster is greater potential for you to either live up to or squander. This may come off as "a matter of syntax" or "saving the appearance", but I would truly argue the difference. Passive SP boosters, on the other hand, do purchase SP. Your post has made me realize that. I believe that is a fair point, but it is slightly less relevant. I don't think any competitive DUST player relies on passive SP, "relies" being the key word. I think that most competitive DUST players utilize passive SP, but that is because most of them play very actively and would like to maximize their time-effectiveness. I believe that it's bad practice to speak extensively on something you haven't done, so I will be the first to admit that I do use both passive and active SP boosters. But I use them because I can be a bit impatient when it comes to starting video games. I want to come out of the gate strong. I believe that boosters will become more and more irrelevant as time goes on. Once most people are around 11 million SP, they're primary class will be fully fleshed out. Why pay money to speed up your secondary skills? You already have a well built primary to fall back on. That's my plan anyway. I don't think that "Beta" is a good excuse for the slow development of this game. I hardly think "Beta" is an excuse at all. But I do that that DS shed light on the commentary the original video made. I think that deserves some credit.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative 30	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:17:00 - [15] - Quote DS 10 wrote: If you haven't seen his review, here's a link. Try not to laugh at his crazy voice. SmithCommaBenjamin's Review It caught the attention of Reddit and Dust's Twitter team, so I made a response video to it. My Response Hope everyone enjoys! Wow I loved that response man! +1
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.03.12 05:14:00 - [16] - Quote the funny thing is, if you watch his first video of dust, he says he loves it, and recommends it.
Doc Kok Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 91	Posted - 2013.03.12 05:43:00 - [17] - Quote This dude dumb..
Kalante Schiffer UnReaL. 189	Posted - 2013.03.12 05:44:00 - [18] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: the funny thing is, if you watch his first video of dust, he says he loves it, and recommends it. i think he got stomped by a corp badly enough to make him do a video hating on dust
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 41	Posted - 2013.03.12 05:52:00 - [19] - Quote Yo DS thanks for the video response someone had to set that guy straight.. Some damn good commentary even though that guy was an ignorant pos you still kept it pretty humble +1
Tex Mex Aztec Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 6	Posted - 2013.03.12 05:59:00 - [20] - Quote God forbid someone has a different opinion.

Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 296	Posted - 2013.03.12 06:08:00 - [21] - Quote The original reviewer was pretty spot on with a lot of his points. It's pretty weird how defensive people get over very valid criticisms of this game and the sort of BS arguments they come up with. The reviewer was a little off about aurum but nevertheless it's still a pay-to-win system and he made valid points. It's mechanics aren't typical of a pay-to-win system but Dust 514's design makes it P2W. In almost any other FPS a system similar to Aurum wouldn't be an issue as high-end abilities don't take long to earn anyways, but in Dust where high level builds take a very long time to grind out (compared to other shooters) Aurum boosts you months ahead of a non-aurum user in SP which can earn you significant health/damage bonuses and far superior equipment to non-aurum users with them having little chance of catching up, giving you a great advantage over them forever, even after you run out of aurum (as long as you remain active). You are directly buying SP...you're just not getting it all at once...it builds and builds. Months worth of SP is a lot and makes a difference. The framerate and hit detection in Dust is not even remotely comparable to the most recent COD game. Black Ops 2 easily destroys Dust in this regard and I guarantee you that if you try comparing the two you will be very disappointed with the results. There is zero argument to be made here. Reloading / other animations are clunky, awkward, and slow and make the gameplay slow and tedious. The quality of the spawns are and have always been terrible. The gameplay brings little satisfaction. The reaction from some of the community to these sorts of criticisms really is disturbing. You are living in lala land...try and face reality. These complaints have been repeated over and over again and are clearly big issues with the average casual/core gamers who try out this game. Out of a million downloads this game has only managed to retain a tiny fraction of a percent of players. Rather than defend broken mechanics and poor design choices and try to force people to like the game, let's come up with solutions so that the game can earn a good rep on it's own...
Vash- Akura Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2013.03.12 06:28:00 - [22] - Quote This game isnt suppose to be like COD, COD does FPS different than DUST and that is good for both. COD is an arena shooter, where DUST will hopefully follow in MAGs direction and be on a much larger scale. Yes COD does the twitch shooter well and it isn't what Dust is, you have to choose your target and use a good amount of ammo to put them down. You wont be killing 4-5 equally fitted opponents in Dust with a single clip. Yes there are many things that Dust can learn from COD but it is a totally different FPS experience.
SERPENT-Adamapple Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2013.03.12 06:41:00 - [23] - Quote Don't forget that he complained about hit-detection which IMO is spot on, LEARN TO AIM. I'm a BF vet and hear the same BS about that games hit-detection when their stupid asses won't even compensate for bullet drop. You want to see bad hit -detection? Play any COD, and you will see that you can drop someone just by shooting their aura...
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 44	Posted - 2013.03.12 06:57:00 - [24] - Quote I thought he was pretty dead on with his review. This game is getting worst every day. I demand my SP back cause Scout suit is ******* worthless.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2398	Posted - 2013.03.12 07:21:00 - [25] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Frankly, you sound like the biggest CCP fanboy I've ever heard. Nothing Benjamin said was wrong. My connection is great, and I experience zero lag problems when I play BO2 and get horrible, horrible framerate lag on Dust 514(he said lag btw, not disconnecting from the host, smartass) and my PS3 will literally freeze when it gets at its worst. Aurum doesn't buy SP? maybe you don't understand this, but getting MORE SP is buying SP, granted it doesn't give a massive advantage, but Aurum DOES buy SP to a degree. The spawn system IS complete ***, I'm glad you were able to overcome your fanboyism long enough to admit that. You seem to think beta is justification for this game failing at so many aspects. No. I started your video thinking you actually believed what you were saying, not that you were a fanboy, but when you started making personal attacks against his gaming skill because you were raging so hard at his review tipped me off to your fanaticism. 5:52 of your review: "In conclusion, your entire review of the game kinda just made you seem kinda like an arrogant prick..." Funny, I was thinking the same about yours. Another thing, since CCP never stated exactly what 514 means, you can say it however the fck you want, five hundred four, five one four, five fourteen, it's all the same, which is one of my reasons for thinking you were an arrogant prick. And I am telling you this, not some guy that joined up a week ago and has no idea about the game, I, who has played since Replication, someone who still thinks this game can be something, am saying that this review shitting on this game is true, and trying to make excuses is exactly why this things won't get fixed. If I came off as an ashole in this comment (and I know I did) then it was because I was copying exactly what you sounded like to me when I was hearing your rage anti-review. I am now ready for your response that will deny everything I said, blame my connection for my lag, and overall make you look more like a fanboy. (and I'm sure you make plenty of insults on me as well) TL;DR for you lazy mercs, Benjamin represents the CoD kiddies that have joined Dust because they saw it's advertisement of open beta, he thinks it's *, they think it's , then the player base drops, then funding to this game drops, then this game dies. Criticize the game to make it better, don't ** on anyone that doesn't like game made by the golden and legendary CCP just because you like CCP. lol fanboys dont wanna do that they dont realize criticism is whats gonna push the game forward not making CCP feel what we currently have is acceptable, +1 btw
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 222	Posted - 2013.03.12 07:35:00 - [26] - Quote Someone mentioned MAG... and most things that I agree with on this subject has already been said but this: MAG still has better shooting mechanisms than Dust, which, for everyone that loves MAG and has played it any, will know that this is NOT a compliment to MAG in it's current state. CCP has two more launches to attract people, and the builds better be good by then! The first being official launch, the second being the port to the PS4. I really really hope CCP doesn't go with the Gaikai option, leaving us with a PS3 game on the PS4.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 220	Posted - 2013.03.12 07:44:00 - [27] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: Someone mentioned MAG I subscribed to mafiabrett's videos for his DUST content, and watched one of his MAG videos out of curiosity. DUST is my first FPS. MAG's UI is terrible. The scenery looks great, but holy kitten the rest looks like ****.
dazlb72 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N 5	Posted - 2013.03.12 07:56:00 - [28] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: This was hilarious, and saddening at the same time. This is how most new, especially COD/Battlefield players view this game. Guess I'll just troll him in the comments section. I hope your response actually gets views, since his is skyrocketing. Why not i thought. So i did
Exardor Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.03.12 08:00:00 - [29] - Quote He has valid points.. .and misses other completely. (he never mentioned PowerGrid imho). But the Fanboy attitude is getting really out of hand. And stop playing the "Beta" - Card in this discussions. CCP is taking money for this Perpetual Beta (German Name for that is much better "Banana-Beta" or "Banana Principle"), so every little bit of criticism is valid.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 222	Posted - 2013.03.12 08:08:00 - [30] - Quote Full Metal Kitten wrote: Gauder Berwyck wrote: Someone mentioned MAG I subscribed to mafiabrett's videos for his DUST content, and watched one of his MAG videos out of curiosity. DUST is my first FPS. MAG's UI is terrible. The scenery looks great, but holy kitten the rest looks like ****. That's your view. But the fact of the matter is that the differences where it counts: Setting a FRAGO, takes 1-2 seconds in MAG, can easily take twice the time in Dust if not more. Opening a map, takes less than a second in MAG, takes a second or two in Dust. Switching to team chat, takes less than a second in MAG, takes 2-3 seconds easily in Dust. It's all these little things and more that STILL makes MAG a better game than Dust, mechanics wise. And don't get me started on framerate issues... It's not so much lag in Dust, but framerate that annoys me. Lag is "acceptable" in it's current state.



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