I'm not saying everything is equal, or that DUST is a finished product. Just that with the specific example used, the system in DUST is actually not bad.

Some people just want to play. This is not the super serious EvE bunch. It's the guys who just want to have some fun. They're not interested in being taught how to play. They want a game which is accessible and fun. Dust fails on those 2. It's why my friends played replication, and 1 day of each build since. Replication was fun.

We're so far from where this game started, and no closer (from Dust perspective) to what was promised. FUBAR.

tbh, this game (like eve) isn't intended for nublets without the will to learn. as CCP said in their interviews, this is to get people clued up into getting into EVE - A much more complex arena. The attitude stays the say, you either learn it, or you don't. COD caters for the far end of the scale "plug 'n play" gamer, which is about as deep on game play as cup of ****.

tbh, this game (like eve) isn't intended for nublets without the will to learn. as CCP said in their interviews, this is to get people clued up into getting into EVE - A much more complex arena. The attitude stays the say, you either learn it, or you don't. COD caters for the far end of the scale "plug 'n play" gamer, which is about as deep on game play as cup of ****.

That target audience will never get the game from day 1.....2... week 3 and given up by month 4. It's not the game at fault, it's their lack of investment to understand the game. He probably didn't even know there were chat rooms where he could ask people questions :p and as a result, half of his information is made up.

To the bolded:

You do realize this is a game right? A free download that doesn't come with a warning that you have to be prepared to invest time and much mental faculties into it?

Does the description in the PS store tell people that before they download they should HTFU?

Saying that as a prerequisite for someone daring to try the game that they should be prepared for a serious investment of time to not suck is one hell of a hurdle to ask people to cross, for a game

Right now, the game that is asking people to jump that hurdle is a mess. No content, bad matchmaking, incomplete documentation, and more, and you want people to saddle up, book off a weekend and get down to it? For what? To get ready for some potential space war that might start at the end of the year? Or to not be behind the guys out front if this game ever gets it act together?

And Le douche

The dude makes some good points on the video (along with the replies of some other people) but the game doesn't suck. The game is pretty good. A lot of people want to compare this game to COD and call it bad. He exaggerated a little with the pay-to-win angle.1. this game isn't pay to win. He said that you would have to play 100 games to make the same amount of Sp as someone who has Aurum. That's not true. Aurum just gives you the ability to buy boosters and blueprint items and some aurum only items*. Also, i don't know if any of you noticed but the Aurum dropsuits are the same dropsuits you can buy with isk, just with a different name (along with other items. The only advantage that Aurum gives is that you can buy boosters, and blueprint items so you can use your isk somewhere else. But the game is NOT pay to win.

* A lot of aurum only items have the same type item sold for isk.

P.S: If you don't like this game, please just stop playing and don't try to convince other people to leave. The people who like this game want a big community, not a one that doesn't like the game. We aren't gonna be crying if you leave. Nobody cares if you like this game or not, just don't try to tell people that the game sucks because you got spawn killed.

There are certain things that are P2W, without a doubt. The complex damage mods with lower requirements being the biggest one. Then there are things like pay to get ahead, and even those come in different quantities. However we are reaching a point where those that have used boosters now have a massive SP lead on non-boosters, and an order of magnitude more SP than noobs. This is fine, but don't pretend that it isn't a tiered subscription model.

So then it becomes pay to catch up, or pay to not get stomped. Neither of which are effective business models. Especially in the FPS genre.

Your post script is insulting though. I don't know how you came to be here, but I paid to get into the closed beta. I'm here because I want to be here, and I want the game to be good. I really support CCP in their vision, and I hope they can reach the lofty goals they have set for themselves. So yes, CCP should care if I like the game or not, because I am the exact type of customer they are looking for, someone who wants to be involved with Dust for years, and is eager to see it live up to its potential.

Why is it that if you are critical of something people assume you dislike it? If I don't think the EU fishing policy accurately represents the best interests of Scottish fisheries that does not mean I think the EU sucks.

Lol best review of dust yet! So honest and free of fanboyism. Sorry CCP but that video was spot on, the tongue in cheek raspy voice and metal in the background was especially hilarious. Guy know his way around the game too , you could tell when he used game specific terms like head glitch.

I bet some eve fanboy is raging so bad this guy called it aura not aurum.

Nice to see these forums are still completely over run with ccp fanboy pole smokers.

I've stopped telling my friends to play this game bc I'm too tired defending it bc deep down I know it's not worth defending at this point . Maybe one day it will be good but I won't stop criticizing this game bc some arrogant fanboy things htfu is the solution to all the games problems. The truth is this game is not complicated either, it just had a terrible user interface. The delay in the menus of the neocom is enough to make anyone quit. The terrible delay and clunkinness in every menu is damning upon itself. Why is it when I access the market the first thing I have to do is press left on the d pad so I can actually scroll through the list? Every damn time you have to do that, I don't think I've ever clicked a damn thing in the store front

The game is t complicated, it's the user interface and horrible delay in virtually everything you do (including reloading) that makes this game such a chore!

There are certain things that are P2W, without a doubt. The complex damage mods with lower requirements being the biggest one.

What? You mean less skill to use? That's how all the AUR items are.

Do you ever press triangle and compare guns or equipment?

So far i havent seen any "cosmetic" product being sold without some advantage attached to it.

Of course one AUR weapon doesnt do much but a whole AURUM fitting does.

David Reid knows nothing , he just repeats some lies coming down from CCP because he has the tongue to spin your little heads.

Wow, that review was....complete and utter ****. He didn't actually explain how the dropsuit mechanics work, made a completely terrible point that "you HAVE to use Aurum" to win, which you don't. I've rolled over people that use Aurum fits in militia gear. You can play this game with pure ISK and do fine.

Also, his point that it takes 6-7 seconds to reload your gun...jesus christ man, that's a more realistic time than say 1-2 seconds like CoD...and his point about Skirmish...

But still, his opinion is his own, regardless of if I like it and all that. Dug your 'counter review' though man o7

Did you notice the reloading while sprinting?
Me neither.
Ten months and we are still missing basic and core gameplay elements.

Because we want what was offered. What we have now is not even as persistent as MAG. Because you can't see ANYTHING about the universe you are in. You can't see what systems in FW are good targets, or anything. Atleast in MAG the reds were the bad guys, the objectives were the only way to win games, and winning games gave you rewards for your whole faction.

I get that this "game/beta" isn't finished. SOONtm / being looked at / has been tested ISN'T enough though.
Here is a good example of my concerns:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Walking_in_stations
Something's just take too long... We just want what attracted us to Dust in the first place.

Where did my star map go? :(