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Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
26
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:04:00 -
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I am sure all of you are aware that Shamrock Vurture (aka VK Deathslayer) has gone rouge. He kick everyone from my corp and stole about 170mill ISK from the corp wallet. But I can tell you that this just a minor setback. Its true that I trusted him when I shouldn't have as well as having knowledge of his shady dealings in the past, which I chose to overlook due to his abilities in New Eden.
But what was he really trying to accomplish? (Besides as branding himself a traitor, thief and turncoat.) Did he think we would just fall apart and scatter into the cosmic wind? That you would never hear from us again? What he did was bring us together and stronger then ever. What his one tract mind wasn't able to comprehend is that Tritan Industries has evolved from a Dust corporation, to a gaming community which has been expanded to many game of may genres. We offer more than just a single game as well as build friendships, in which I account you all as. In my opinion what he did this early on in the game was premature. He should of waited. Did more of a long con which is what New Eden is famed for. Not to smart if you ask me.
Tritan will always exist. What they did is give us some great PR and have given us a chance to rise up from the proverbial ashes which I assure we will.
He took a pathetic amount of isk that we can make in an hour and a name.
Jaww Cloud |
bluescreenodeath
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:05:00 -
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rogue* |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
194
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:07:00 -
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Going%20Rouge
Damn, that sounds bad. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1896
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:16:00 -
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Jaww Cloud wrote:I am sure all of you are aware that Shamrock Vurture (aka VK Deathslayer) has gone rogue. He kicked everyone from my corp and stole about 170mill ISK from the corp wallet. But I can tell you that this just a minor setback. It's true that I trusted him when I shouldn't have despite having knowledge of his shady dealings in the past, which I chose to overlook due to his abilities in New Eden.
But what was he really trying to accomplish? (Besides branding himself a traitor, thief and turncoat.) Did he think we would just fall apart and scatter into the cosmic wind? That you would never hear from us again? What he did was bring us together and stronger then ever. What his one-track mind wasn't able to comprehend is that Tritan Industries has evolved from a Dust corporation to a gaming community which has been expanded to many games of many genres. We offer more than just a single game as well as build friendships, in which I count you all. In my opinion what he did this early on in the game was premature. He should have waited and done more of a long con, which is what New Eden is famed for. Not too smart if you ask me.
Tritan will always exist. What they did is give us some great PR and have given us a chance to rise up from the proverbial ashes which I assure we will.
He took a pathetic amount of isk that we can make in an hour and a name.
Jaww Cloud Some people are pointing to one small typo, and missing the bigger picture.
Fixed.
You're welcome.
Now that the silliness is dealt with, glad to hear you guys are all well and nothing serious has come of this. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
235
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:18:00 -
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Damn man, that sucks. He tried to lead a coup against our CEO months and months ago and ended up getting kicked for it. Didn't think he'd go that far though. Ouch |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
27
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:19:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:I am sure all of you are aware that Shamrock Vurture (aka VK Deathslayer) has gone rogue. He kicked everyone from my corp and stole about 170mill ISK from the corp wallet. But I can tell you that this just a minor setback. It's true that I trusted him when I shouldn't have despite having knowledge of his shady dealings in the past, which I chose to overlook due to his abilities in New Eden.
But what was he really trying to accomplish? (Besides branding himself a traitor, thief and turncoat.) Did he think we would just fall apart and scatter into the cosmic wind? That you would never hear from us again? What he did was bring us together and stronger then ever. What his one-track mind wasn't able to comprehend is that Tritan Industries has evolved from a Dust corporation to a gaming community which has been expanded to many games of many genres. We offer more than just a single game as well as build friendships, in which I count you all. In my opinion what he did this early on in the game was premature. He should have waited and done more of a long con, which is what New Eden is famed for. Not too smart if you ask me.
Tritan will always exist. What they did is give us some great PR and have given us a chance to rise up from the proverbial ashes which I assure we will.
He took a pathetic amount of isk that we can make in an hour and a name.
Jaww Cloud Some people are pointing to one small typo, and missing the bigger picture. Fixed. You're welcome.
Now that the silliness is dealt with, glad to hear you guys are all well and nothing serious has come of this.
+1
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:22:00 -
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I'm glad to notice support, I would like to thank you for your support and while I can't talk for our board I'm sure they appreciate this as much as I do.
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Julius Vindice
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
43
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:29:00 -
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Now THAT's a corporation with heart, a mission, and true dedication. (tips hat)
(EDIT) I messed up the sentence a bit |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:30:00 -
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*Eating sunflower seeds*
This is hilarious. I love the spin too. He is making it look like he did something crazy by stealing so much money. Now you guys are on trying to make it look like he didnt do nearly as much as he did. Trying to make your PR look good for this loss.
OH and where is the Dustblog on this??? The first actual well known corp espionage and embezzlement and nothing from them so far......but man they were on the mark when they called a corp battle theft on a massive scale (20 mill). LOL |
PAs Capone
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:37:00 -
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GÇ£O that a soldier so glorious, ever victorious in fight, Passed from a daylight of honor into the terrible night; Fell as the mighty archangel, ere the earth glowed in space, fell-- Fell from the patriot's heaven down to the loyalist's hell!GÇ¥ Arnold at Stillwater
Enjoy your day VK/ Sham-wow. Pace the halls of your nightmare, you have just yet decended to the first level of hell, the days will be dark, the nights cold, the light of your becon dimmed.
Your true self has been shown, the disfigured form lay out for all to see. Enjoy your day VK, and veiw what TRITAN will rise to be!
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
3037
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:40:00 -
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Congradulations.
May I hope this will inspire your corporation to start a counter intel program or at least a security policy.
I keep warning people, they do not heed the shark infested waters.
As for reaction, good job admitting it happened, further good job on restating your resolve to build and grow past this set back and lauding the theif in the most proper way, he should have waited I would have agreed. |
Osydisious
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
35
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:42:00 -
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Wow, I think this is the worst attempt in the whole of New Eden to crush a corp. Glad to see that it hasn't affected you in the slightest and you are already bouncing back. You guys and great and keep up the work you do. Remember you aren't alone, if you need anything (which I sincerely doubt) then give TCD a shout, always there for the LRA. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
310
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:43:00 -
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I see you're no longer in Legacy Rising. You get booted from that too. dang that's harsh.
I laugh but perhaps i shouldnt cause i can sense the spies in our alliance plotting ready to "break us" |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries
359
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:44:00 -
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The best part is, in his weak attempt to "vanquish" us, he has effectively reunited the community under the Tritan flag. So far, everyone has shown up in force on our website to show support. We have a great community and I am proud to be a part of it. Stay tuned for the rise of a better, stronger, more united Tritan.
Like I said earlier, I P*ss 500 million isk, all he took was a name and our current spot on the Dust leaderboard (which is meaningless). Plus he could have played the long-con and maybe done some real damage. But instead went for an immediate "Hey, look at me, look what I did, I'm great!" while failing to break us at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. |
Medic 1879
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:45:00 -
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Bumpage to show support for Jaw and all my fellow Tritans whats the old saying "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger." I admit its a setback and disappointing but its only going to ensure we all stick together and come back from this stronger than ever before.
Oh and about the guy who did this didn't know him myself but you have to wonder at his motives yes he has made a name for himself doing this to a big corp but now everyone knows him as a turncoat would you really want him in your corp even if you knew he was going to do this would you want a proven traitor in your midst. Second old saying of the day "A leopard doesn't change his spots." (Internet cookie to who gets the reference of the altered version "A leopard doesn't change his shorts.")
PS Was ment to be a small support post but I have a tendency to ramble had to force myself to limit it to two sayings only. |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
29
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:48:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:I see you're no longer in Legacy Rising. You get booted from that too. dang that's harsh. I laugh but perhaps i shouldnt cause i can sense the spies in our alliance plotting ready to "break us"
No we did not get booted. Zion and the rest of the alliance are behind us and always will be. I couldn't have picked better guys to stand next to. |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries
360
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:53:00 -
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double post |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
199
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:00:00 -
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Nothing like a little adversity to strengthen bonds and give a sense of shared experience. An attack which fails to destroy a Corp makes the memberGÇÖs commitment to the Corp that much stronger. It also shows everyone that your Corp has the strength to wether adversity and will not fall apart at the first bump in the road. I think in the long run this guy did you a favour. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
3038
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:01:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:I see you're no longer in Legacy Rising. You get booted from that too. dang that's harsh. I laugh but perhaps i shouldnt cause i can sense the spies in our alliance plotting ready to "break us"
You migh want to start taking a log of thier usual play times (thus creating a window), and see if any these guys consistently mysteriously dissapears during thier normal playtime when a corp battle against a rival pops up....
but why should I be giving free advice on corp protection? |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
30
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Congradulations.
May I hope this will inspire your corporation to start a counter intel program or at least a security policy.
I keep warning people, they do not heed the shark infested waters.
As for reaction, good job admitting it happened, further good job on restating your resolve to build and grow past this set back and lauding the theif in the most proper way, he should have waited I would have agreed.
He isn't the brightest bulb in the box. |
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Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries
25
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:03:00 -
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It was a calculated risk, giving the Sham the reigns of T-I. He had a history of pirating and scamming in New Eden and we were warned. That being said, he did have an extensive knowledge of PvP and EVE, which we needed to tap into for our expansion efforts into the New Eden universe. It's not everyday a "day 1" EVE player offers to join and teach. To compromise on this gamble he was only given limited access to our website, so he doesn't even have secrets or anything "Classified". He made what amounts to a dent in the corp in New Eden and a scratch on Tritan Industries as a whole.
I assure you all, that this is not "spinning" a story. This is the truth. He stole what amounts to chump-change and he booted most people out of the corporation by somehow generating stock, despite there being none issued because the mechanic does not exist in DUST514, when a corp is formed within Dust.
Shamrock is driven by ego, as well as is his cohort, Exmaple Core (btw, they know each other and are close friends IRL). He will up-play his successes as if they were acts of god, when in fact he moved prematurely and hardly accomplished anything in the grand scheme. I leave you with a thought from Sun Tzu:
Subtle and insubstantial, the expert leaves no trace; divinely mysterious, he is inaudible. Thus he is master of his enemy's fate. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
3038
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:04:00 -
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Jaww Cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Congradulations.
May I hope this will inspire your corporation to start a counter intel program or at least a security policy.
I keep warning people, they do not heed the shark infested waters.
As for reaction, good job admitting it happened, further good job on restating your resolve to build and grow past this set back and lauding the theif in the most proper way, he should have waited I would have agreed. He isn't the brightest bulb in the box.
Well if I was doing this gig (dont worry I am not in your corp) I would have thrown the guy away as a distraction while using the guy who expressed concerns over the other guy to get put into a security position at least after the dust settles. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
257
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:10:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Damn man, that sucks. He tried to lead a coup against our CEO months and months ago and ended up getting kicked for it. Didn't think he'd go that far though. Ouch
I hope rift is doing well! I remember the old days! Completely forgot he was in rift with us.
I agree it does suck, A bit of advice, corporations CEO's and directors should always know each others real identity's. Keeps people allot more honest.
Its allot harder to pull a "I will find you and kill you move" when people know where you live and who you are :P |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
3038
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:12:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Django Quik wrote:Damn man, that sucks. He tried to lead a coup against our CEO months and months ago and ended up getting kicked for it. Didn't think he'd go that far though. Ouch I hope rift is doing well! I remember the old days! Completely forgot he was in rift with us. I agree it does suck, A bit of advice, corporations CEO's and directors should always know each others real identity's. Keeps people allot more honest.
Speaking form Experince. It little to nothing for smaller groups or small time spies.
To large profiling groups, its a career ender.
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DustMercsBlog
Galactic News Network
16
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:12:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:*Eating sunflower seeds* This is hilarious. I love the spin too. He is making it look like he did something crazy by stealing so much money. Now you guys are on trying to make it look like he didnt do nearly as much as he did. Trying to make your PR look good for this loss. OH and where is the Dustblog on this??? The first actual well known corp espionage and embezzlement and nothing from them so far......but man they were on the mark when they called a corp battle theft on a massive scale (20 mill). LOL
u may want to check our twitter feed, we ran the story hours ago. |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
30
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:14:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Django Quik wrote:Damn man, that sucks. He tried to lead a coup against our CEO months and months ago and ended up getting kicked for it. Didn't think he'd go that far though. Ouch I hope rift is doing well! I remember the old days! Completely forgot he was in rift with us. I agree it does suck, A bit of advice, corporations CEO's and directors should always know each others real identity's. Keeps people allot more honest.
He was the only one of my directors that I didn't fully trust. He acted like he was gods gift to any corp and i should grovel at his high heels |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
257
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:17:00 -
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Jaww Cloud wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Django Quik wrote:Damn man, that sucks. He tried to lead a coup against our CEO months and months ago and ended up getting kicked for it. Didn't think he'd go that far though. Ouch I hope rift is doing well! I remember the old days! Completely forgot he was in rift with us. I agree it does suck, A bit of advice, corporations CEO's and directors should always know each others real identity's. Keeps people allot more honest. He was the only one of my directors that I didn't fully trust. He acted like he was gods gift to any corp and i should grovel at his high heels
I hear ya man, but looking to the far future of your corp, realize that people can change, and information is the best insurance policy you can probably have against this sort of thing. |
Zahle Undt
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:17:00 -
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Tritan and its memebers are all still alive and well, as our leadership has posted, this attack has utterly failed in its attempt to break us apart. We are still in contact, stil playing Dust and other games together. All Shamrock and those others complicit in this act have done is shown their true nature for all to behold and paint a target on their own backs. So for a little bit you may not see our corp tag by our name, but we are still out there, still working as a team, still working with our alliance, but with renewed drive and focus.
So thanks Shamrock/VK whatever, your name will surely be forgotten, but we will always remember you as that dumbass who thought he could easily break our corp.
BTW also thanks to LRA corps and others for their support, see you guys on the battlefield. |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:22:00 -
[29] - Quote
As others have said, it is beyond laughable that he would think this would have any effect on our resolve to stay together as a gaming community.
I am a Tritan, and I'm still here. |
Cody Sietz
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:23:00 -
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We won't break so easily. |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
558
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:24:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Tritan and its memebers are all still alive and well, as our leadership has posted, this attack has utterly failed in its attempt to break us apart. We are still in contact, stil playing Dust and other games together. All Shamrock and those others complicit in this act have done is shown their true nature for all to behold and paint a target on their own backs. So for a little bit you may not see our corp tag by our name, but we are still out there, still working as a team, still working with our alliance, but with renewed drive and focus. So thanks Shamrock/VK whatever, your name will surely be forgotten, but we will always remember you as that dumbass who thought he could easily break our corp. BTW also thanks to LRA corps and others for their support, see you guys on the battlefield. no problem we all needed a laugh |
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:24:00 -
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Tritan-Industries
You have my Sword, and before I return to my corp I will gladly donate 5 000 000 to your cause.
Let this be message to thieves and scum that these Injustices will not stand. |
Panoscape
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
112
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:28:00 -
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Sorry to hear abut this, but glad you're on the mend.
I have to ask, why keep so much ISK in your corp wallet? We have a set limit on what can be in the corp wallet and everything else gets put into the CEO toon wallet. That way, if a director goes rogue, they can only steal a very small amount. It keeps temptation at bay.
Hopefully the next update will include an officer role, which would be a position between Director and the private and can not kick people. |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
31
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:36:00 -
[34] - Quote
Panoscape wrote:Sorry to hear abut this, but glad you're on the mend.
I have to ask, why keep so much ISK in your corp wallet? We have a set limit on what can be in the corp wallet and everything else gets put into the CEO toon wallet. That way, if a director goes rogue, they can only steal a very small amount. It keeps temptation at bay.
Hopefully the next update will include an officer role, which would be a position between Director and the private and can not kick people.
He didn't steal from he dust wallet. He stole from the eve wallet. And 170mil is change you find between the seat cushion of your pilot chair.. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
558
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:37:00 -
[35] - Quote
Panoscape wrote:Sorry to hear abut this, but glad you're on the mend.
I have to ask, why keep so much ISK in your corp wallet? We have a set limit on what can be in the corp wallet and everything else gets put into the CEO toon wallet. That way, if a director goes rogue, they can only steal a very small amount. It keeps temptation at bay.
Hopefully the next update will include an officer role, which would be a position between Director and the private and can not kick people. but what happens if the CEO goes rogue?... |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
3039
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:38:00 -
[36] - Quote
gbghg wrote:Panoscape wrote:Sorry to hear abut this, but glad you're on the mend.
I have to ask, why keep so much ISK in your corp wallet? We have a set limit on what can be in the corp wallet and everything else gets put into the CEO toon wallet. That way, if a director goes rogue, they can only steal a very small amount. It keeps temptation at bay.
Hopefully the next update will include an officer role, which would be a position between Director and the private and can not kick people. but what happens if the CEO goes rogue?...
Well depends how fast you can act and outvote.
The option would be to raise more stocks (and if you and your fellow 'directors' have more votes than he does) than the ceo does then pass a new voter resolution to remove ceo and get 51% of the vote on. But if CEO has like majority enough to prevent stock raise vote from passing then well you're screwed. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
558
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:gbghg wrote:Panoscape wrote:Sorry to hear abut this, but glad you're on the mend.
I have to ask, why keep so much ISK in your corp wallet? We have a set limit on what can be in the corp wallet and everything else gets put into the CEO toon wallet. That way, if a director goes rogue, they can only steal a very small amount. It keeps temptation at bay.
Hopefully the next update will include an officer role, which would be a position between Director and the private and can not kick people. but what happens if the CEO goes rogue?... Well depends how fast you can act and outvote. The option would be to raise more stocks (and if you and your fellow 'directors' have more votes than he does) than the ceo does then pass a new voter resolution to remove ceo and get 51% of the vote on. But if CEO has like majority enough to prevent stock raise vote from passing then well you're screwed. my question was if the ceo already has the majority of the wallet what would your response be, your response would only work if you had most of the directors online at once |
Panoscape
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
112
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:48:00 -
[38] - Quote
@Jaww, gotcha, now I see why it's little beans. In Dust, that's a lot of change but in EVE, it's nothing.
in Dust, the CEO owns the corp, so they can do anything they want, it's their corp. Just like any business, the owner calls the shots and if they want to end business then that's their prerogative. You're signing up to be with that Corp and CEO, the two go hand in hand. If you can't trust your CEO, then time to move on and find a new corp. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
3039
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:49:00 -
[39] - Quote
Panoscape wrote:The CEO owns the corp, so they can do anything they want, it's their corp. Just like any business, the owner calls the shots and if they want to end business then that's their prerogative. You're signing up to be with that Corp and CEO, the two go hand in hand. If you can't trust your CEO, then time to move on and find a new corp.
Titans4U CEO was on of the most trusted CEO's out there... |
Vexen Krios
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:52:00 -
[40] - Quote
Tritan. Together we stand. Together we fight. Together we conquer.
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Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
488
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:35:00 -
[41] - Quote
Well, I guess have even one more reason to hunt down Maple in randoms now...
Sucks that our name on the leaderboards was taken.
Oh well, I guess this means that I won't have to switch out my old character now. Thanks for saving me a few minutes of navigating menus, Maple. |
Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
72
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:42:00 -
[42] - Quote
Jotun Hiem wrote:Well, I guess have even one more reason to hunt down Maple in randoms now...
Sucks that our name on the leaderboards was taken.
Oh well, I guess this means that I won't have to switch out my old character now. Thanks for saving me a few minutes of navigating menus, Maple.
Remember this is a sand box, so have fun killing the culprit with LAV ejecting, or MLT grenade cooking. |
Lunamaria Hawkeye
SyNergy Gaming
97
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:54:00 -
[43] - Quote
Hey man I feel your pain. We got robbed once right in the middle of a corp match. It sucks. |
Eudenn Nedme
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
Jaww, your post was spot on and well received. Much as I was thinking also; not a bright action on his part and good tempering of our edge. Hear hear!
-Martzel Viteri (EVE) |
Cadar Windfall
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:19:00 -
[45] - Quote
I'm with you guys, here to help however I can :)
-Pascal Viteri (EVE) |
Sev Alcatraz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:51:00 -
[46] - Quote
Tritan for life in. 3 days none will even know or care who even did this |
Eero Vesisaari
Expert Intervention Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:18:00 -
[47] - Quote
I am with Tritan, and I am still here
Tritan's not just a name or corp - it's a way of life! |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
232
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:29:00 -
[48] - Quote
O.o
well........that sucks lol....... seems like a stupid way to bring down a corp...... |
tastzlike chicken
ROGUE SPADES
60
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:35:00 -
[49] - Quote
ADHD + Espionage = fail.
Props to Tritan for publicly owning this and moving on. They have just become a stronger better managed corporation with 1 less trustworthy person for what was either: a) a barely noteworthy theft, or b) a very expensive and overpriced freelance security consultation.
What's going to stick in my mind the most is that Dude who's-name-I-have-already-forgotten burned a deeply placed asset for 500 mil (or whatever) -no corp armory to empty, no billions of EVE-funnelled ISK.
Now if he perma-parks that character just to keep the Tritan Industries name tied up than kudos to him for an EVE-style #$%-move, but that's about all I can muster.
Tritan folks: Please don't take my apparent nonchalance about your predicament as indicative of any malice toward you; I have none. We all know you will survive this relatively cheap but annoying housecleaning. Good-luck to you, and see ya in game. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
undeadsoldier90 wrote:O.o
well........that sucks lol....... seems like a stupid way to bring down a corp...... It failed though, that's what's so funny, tritan are just using their forums to regroup. |
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undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
232
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:37:00 -
[51] - Quote
gbghg wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:O.o
well........that sucks lol....... seems like a stupid way to bring down a corp...... It failed though, that's what's so funny, tritan are just using their forums to regroup.
exactly my point..... thats not the way you do it..... target the website first then eve then dust....... |
Free Healing
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
240
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
Tritan FTW!
Tritan was one of the first Corporations to form in DUST 514 and really become big. If anything, I'd say Jaww did something upstanding by trusting a Capsuleer despite his reputation. All EVE Capsuleers have a bad reputation with Dusters and vice versa. It makes it hard to wade through the waters of who you can trust. EVE is a morally grey area, but I respect Jaww for making the decision to put faith in something for the sake of expanding his Corporation and trying to accomplish something that has yet to be established. Which is a DUST Original Corporation that has it's own Capsuleer presence. I can't understand the kind of mentality that someone must have to do what Shamrock did. Jaww offered Shamrock a chance to do something meaningful in the EVE community, to be a part of something meaningful, to bridge the gap between Dusters and Capsuleers, and he through it away for some quick fame and a small amount of pocket change?
If anything Shamrock's actions have hurt the EVE Community because now CEO's everywhere are going to be on to the fact that EVE side directors can potentially perform a cu de' ta. This is going to lead to a large amount of mistrust between EVE and Dust players. Well... larger than before.
And as far as Legacy Rising is concerned, Tritan Industries will be gladly accepted back into Legacy Rising as soon as the option becomes available. At the VERY least Tritan Industries has the full support of Logistic Operations and Tactical Infantry Solutions. I personally look forward to seeing how Tritan Industries will grow to counter this injustice. And you can bet that I will support them for the entirety of their now, much more colorful, history.
And to Shamrock. Make no mistake. You will pay for these actions. That i promise you. EVERYTHING comes full circle.
Keep the faith. |
Vexen Krios
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
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LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
8
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:44:00 -
[54] - Quote
time to hunt down Shamrock Vurture!!! |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
359
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:49:00 -
[55] - Quote
Vexen Krios wrote:Tritan. Together we stand. Together we fight. Together we conquer.
Props to Tritan for weathering the storm!
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:56:00 -
[56] - Quote
LoveNewlooy wrote:time to hunt down Shamrock Vurture!!! If only you could see the LRA forum chat |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:57:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sounds like a really ****** situation. You better hope he didn't leave spies in your roster to repeat the same act in future. Stay aware. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
917
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:58:00 -
[58] - Quote
Was never really worried about you guys......situations like these only makes the clan stronger. And it builds morale and a stronger sense of unity amongst members of REAL clans.
Got your back, Tritan |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
232
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:14:00 -
[59] - Quote
Vexen Krios wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote: exactly my point..... thats not the way you do it..... target the website first then eve then dust....... you would be the one to know, right. Tritan is far from crumbling, if anyone had any idea of who we are would realize this. Tritan is strong as are our players. We shall not waiver.
No I wouldnt. I had no knowledge of this. What ever disagreements I had with tritans leadership I wish no ill will upon its members. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
224
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:18:00 -
[60] - Quote
That sucks, Jaww. Have had nothing but good dealings with T-I people. Hope this brings your people closer together! |
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Scrubby13
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:22:00 -
[61] - Quote
I am Tritan and I am still here. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
78
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:09:00 -
[62] - Quote
Isn't there a like a 24 hour waiting period before you can kick people? |
Zechs Kurshinada
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:11:00 -
[63] - Quote
We are still here we will become stronger because of this. |
Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
I truly admire Tritans stance of "Don't let the ******** get you down.." attitude.
*tips hat* |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
40
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:18:00 -
[65] - Quote
Thank you guys for all the support for my guys and cprporation. Means a lot. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
10
|
Posted - 2013.03.08 22:21:00 -
[66] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:Thank you guys for all the support for my guys and cprporation. Means a lot.
We will always be here. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
226
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:24:00 -
[67] - Quote
Coleman Gray wrote:Isn't there a like a 24 hour waiting period before you can kick people?
for directors. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
361
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:29:00 -
[68] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:I am sure all of you are aware that Shamrock Vurture (aka VK Deathslayer) has gone rogue. He kick everyone from my corp and stole about 170mill ISK from the corp wallet. But I can tell you that this just a minor setback. Its true that I trusted him when I shouldn't have as well as having knowledge of his shady dealings in the past, which I chose to overlook due to his abilities in New Eden.
But what was he really trying to accomplish? (Besides as branding himself a traitor, thief and turncoat.) Did he think we would just fall apart and scatter into the cosmic wind? That you would never hear from us again? What he did was bring us together and stronger then ever. What his one tract mind wasn't able to comprehend is that Tritan Industries has evolved from a Dust corporation, to a gaming community which has been expanded to many game of may genres. We offer more than just a single game as well as build friendships, in which I account you all as. In my opinion what he did this early on in the game was premature. He should of waited. Did more of a long con which is what New Eden is famed for. Not to smart if you ask me.
Tritan will always exist. What they did is give us some great PR and have given us a chance to rise up from the proverbial ashes which I assure we will.
He took a pathetic amount of isk that we can make in an hour and a name.
Jaww Cloud
Stay strong guys! I almost joined your corp, actually. Way back when it was forming Dust side. Anyways, hope everything comes out okay for you guys in the end! |
Sev Alcatraz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:42:00 -
[69] - Quote
The history of these days will be written in blood. By crushing the armies of our enemy, by seizing the weapons they thought to turn against us, On this day, as our enemy's ships burn away in orbit, as their bodies lie broken in our streets, we are once again reminded of the depths of their depravity, We will strike without warning and without mercy, fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, And as our last breath tears at their lungs;
Tritan forever
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Anticitizen2501
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
69
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:49:00 -
[70] - Quote
Yo!
To my Tritan brothers, I'm sorry this has happened to you, but it's great to see that you're not getting down about it. I know you'll all do just fine! Legacy Rising's got your back anyway!
Oh, and Shamrock... ............................................________ ....................................,.-'"...................``~., .............................,.-"..................................."-., .........................,/...............................................":, .....................,?......................................................, .................../...........................................................,} ................./......................................................,:`^`..} .............../...................................................,:"........./ ..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../ ............./__.(....."~-,_..............................,:`........../ .........../(_...."~,_........"~,_....................,:`........_/ ..........{.._$;_......"=,_......."-,_.......,.-~-,},.~";/....} ...........((.....*~_......."=-._......";,,./`..../"............../ ...,,,___.`~,......"~.,....................`.....}............../ ............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,-" ............/.`~,......`-...................................../ .............`~.*-,.....................................|,./.....,__ ,,_..........}.>-._...................................|..............`=~-, .....`=~-,__......`,................................. ...................`=~-,,.,............................... ................................`:,,...........................`..............__ .....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==`` ........................................_..........._,-%.......` ..................................., |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
565
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:51:00 -
[71] - Quote
something a tritan member posted on the LRA forums http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ap-BKvG2D80#! |
Otto Golaso
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:53:00 -
[72] - Quote
Our swords are our guides. Vengeance is our destination. Time is our friend... As big as New Eden is, it gets a lot smaller when you gank your friends ... |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
232
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:54:00 -
[73] - Quote
Corp battle! When you guys are ready. |
Starshine Etherium
Greywolf Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:56:00 -
[74] - Quote
Sounds like LOCKON was nothing more than practice for him. |
Zig Zag Zan
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:57:00 -
[75] - Quote
We are Tritan and we will always be here |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
290
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:00:00 -
[76] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I see you're no longer in Legacy Rising. You get booted from that too. dang that's harsh. I laugh but perhaps i shouldnt cause i can sense the spies in our alliance plotting ready to "break us" No we did not get booted. Zion and the rest of the alliance are behind us and always will be. I couldn't have picked better guys to stand next to. Just glad this happened early on. He could have waited and used this to put you out of commission when you are trying to defend planets, making you focus on re-forming the corp and re-funding the corp wallet instead of keeping up a proper defense of your territory. Really not to much of a strategist, is he? That said, if he had thought of it, we'd have your back. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
565
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:02:00 -
[77] - Quote
Baal Omniscient wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I see you're no longer in Legacy Rising. You get booted from that too. dang that's harsh. I laugh but perhaps i shouldnt cause i can sense the spies in our alliance plotting ready to "break us" No we did not get booted. Zion and the rest of the alliance are behind us and always will be. I couldn't have picked better guys to stand next to. Just glad this happened early on. He could have waited and used this to put you out of commission when you are trying to defend planets, making you focus on re-forming the corp and re-funding the corp wallet instead of keeping up a proper defense of your territory. Really not to much of a strategist, is he? That said, if he had thought of it, we'd have your back. After all, we are the solution |
Doc Kok
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
82
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:07:00 -
[78] - Quote
Its been a while I would love to play with some of you Tritan guys! good bunch of guys. |
Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
208
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:08:00 -
[79] - Quote
I say this shamrock guy deserves an award. Shamrock you have officially accomplished the worst corp hijack anyone In new Eden has ever seen. While pissing off an entire alliance pat yourself on the back shamrock you sir are worthless an deserve to be publicly hung, keep looking over your shoulder karma is a ***** but Jesse Jayne is worse. Hey shamrock hold my ****.
*Any statements made by Jesse Jayne do not express the views or opinions of Zion TCD or Legacy Rising, they are the views of Jesse Jayne, anyone has a problem with it they can go **** themselves. That's is all
stay tough tritan I got your back till the end |
Alenivan Caldare
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:12:00 -
[80] - Quote
Oh, look...some people who don't know how the world works. You call Sham a fool, an idiot, a turncoat? Your CEO Jaw gave Sham Director and then insulted him. Any person who would be that idiotic deserves what he gets. Honestly Jaw, when I joined the corp, it took me a month to even hear your name, let alone know you as CEO. On the EVE side, Sham was already our leader. He organized us, he taught us, he led us, and what did you do? You tried to control EVE without having even played the game. You called Shamrock a pirate, by your definition everyone in the EVE universe is a pirate. A pawn is what you are, and pawns are to be sacrificed. A pawn may be well utilized, but can never be the king. |
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Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
208
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:14:00 -
[81] - Quote
Alenivan Caldare wrote:Oh, look...some people who don't know how the world works. You call Sham a fool, an idiot, a turncoat? Your CEO Jaw gave Sham Director and then insulted him. Any person who would be that idiotic deserves what he gets. Honestly Jaw, when I joined the corp, it took me a month to even hear your name, let alone know you as CEO. On the EVE side, Sham was already our leader. He organized us, he taught us, he led us, and what did you do? You tried to control EVE without having even played the game. You called Shamrock a pirate, by your definition everyone in the EVE universe is a pirate. A pawn is what you are, and pawns are to be sacrificed. A pawn may be well utilized, but can never be the king. Awwww how cute someone made an alt to post with ^
*Any statements made by Jesse Jayne do not express the views or opinions of Zion TCD or Legacy Rising, they are the views of Jesse Jayne, anyone has a problem with it they can go **** themselves. That's is all |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
42
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:24:00 -
[82] - Quote
undeadsoldier90 wrote:Corp battle! When you guys are ready.
Are you serious? You come after us like this after what happened? Now? REALLY? Since when did Unreal become the new Imperfects..?
(Not all imperfects just the dbags and we as a community know who they are, speaking merely from statistics people) |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
42
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:25:00 -
[83] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Corp battle! When you guys are ready. Are you serious? You come after us like this after what happened? Now? REALLY? Since when did Unreal become the new Imperfects..? (Not all imperfects just the dbags and we as a community know who they are, speaking merely from statistics people)
Do you think we are in any shape to do a corp battle right now? My god use your brain. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2073
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:30:00 -
[84] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Corp battle! When you guys are ready. Are you serious? You come after us like this after what happened? Now? REALLY? Since when did Unreal become the new Imperfects..? (Not all imperfects just the dbags and we as a community know who they are, speaking merely from statistics people) Do you think we are in any shape to do a corp battle right now? My god use your brain. 1. Chill out broseph it's just a corp battle offer.
2. unReal would never challenge a corp if they are prepared for it, so go easy on him
3. Do not compare this swine to the level of the Imperfects douche baggery |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
42
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:33:00 -
[85] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Corp battle! When you guys are ready. Are you serious? You come after us like this after what happened? Now? REALLY? Since when did Unreal become the new Imperfects..? (Not all imperfects just the dbags and we as a community know who they are, speaking merely from statistics people) Do you think we are in any shape to do a corp battle right now? My god use your brain. 1. Chill out broseph it's just a corp battle offer. 2. unReal would never challenge a corp if they are prepared for it, so go easy on him 3. Do not compare this swine to the level of the Imperfects douche baggery
very true and very good point. He is in no way at their level. |
VK deathslaer
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:36:00 -
[86] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Congradulations.
May I hope this will inspire your corporation to start a counter intel program or at least a security policy.
I keep warning people, they do not heed the shark infested waters.
As for reaction, good job admitting it happened, further good job on restating your resolve to build and grow past this set back and lauding the theif in the most proper way, he should have waited I would have agreed. He isn't the brightest bulb in the box.
But i managed to take your corp, then take CEO from you, proved how ineffective a leader Jaww Cloud really is. By having an eve contingent and totally ignoring the responsibilities of taking care of your pilots. Not only that he shoulders the main responsibilities of his corp on the rest of his directors and gives them no direction. While at his leisure he sat back and did nothing to help his corp.
Every now ex-tritan member says they have strength because of my actions. The strength of an organization is the strength of its leader. Now that leader is weak and has no power also through dissonance he tries to ignore the real problems withn his organization. Planet vikings will always be planet vikings dull, unintelligent, and with much hubris. It is because of this hubris his corp is dead and I suspect rebuilding is highly unlikely. You have shown the community that you aren't capable at leading even sheep into battle. Your corp battles are always total defeats, your pub matches aren't much better. Tritan will never be more then a shadow of what it was so have fun playing cod and battlefield because you aren't good enough to play dust.
This should be a stark reminder to the other corps out in the community how not to lead your corp. Insulting and flexing your epeen every chance is just the mentality that brings on insurrection. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
290
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:39:00 -
[87] - Quote
Jesse Jayne wrote:Alenivan Caldare wrote:Oh, look...some people who don't know how the world works. You call Sham a fool, an idiot, a turncoat? Your CEO Jaw gave Sham Director and then insulted him. Any person who would be that idiotic deserves what he gets. Honestly Jaw, when I joined the corp, it took me a month to even hear your name, let alone know you as CEO. On the EVE side, Sham was already our leader. He organized us, he taught us, he led us, and what did you do? You tried to control EVE without having even played the game. You called Shamrock a pirate, by your definition everyone in the EVE universe is a pirate. A pawn is what you are, and pawns are to be sacrificed. A pawn may be well utilized, but can never be the king. Awwww how cute someone made an alt to post with ^ *Any statements made by Jesse Jayne do not express the views or opinions of Zion TCD or Legacy Rising, they are the views of Jesse Jayne, anyone has a problem with it they can go **** themselves. That's is all If Sham's a king he must get checkmated constantly, because this was the most laughable point in time he could have possibly made such a move. He's done nothing but give himself up and buy himself a few weeks worth of gear. Hardly worth being impressed by. The only thing this did was give Tritan a short lived inconvenience.
There are numerous things he could have done to harm Titan that would have been much worse. In fact I can name several right now without ever having played Eve. For example:
He could have waited until you are able to control planets. Started his own corp in secret on an alt. Kicked all of the target corp. Had his real corp move in on their territories, moved in spies from his real corp into the target corp, made half directors so they couldn't be kicked for 24 hours, and forced the target corp to lose those battles. Donated the entirety of the corps funds and armory to the spies in his real corp to be moved to his real corp's stores. Auctioned off the target corps MCC's for dirt cheap. And all of this but the battles themselves could be done in the space of a few hours from what I understand.
Hmm.... perhaps I shouldn't be sharing tactics for espionage with the community.... I'll stop there, that's enough to give you an idea of how big a fail this attempt was.
Anyway, Sham is a.... sham.... of a king |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2073
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:40:00 -
[88] - Quote
VK deathslaer wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Congradulations.
May I hope this will inspire your corporation to start a counter intel program or at least a security policy.
I keep warning people, they do not heed the shark infested waters.
As for reaction, good job admitting it happened, further good job on restating your resolve to build and grow past this set back and lauding the theif in the most proper way, he should have waited I would have agreed. He isn't the brightest bulb in the box. This game is my life
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Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
43
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:43:00 -
[89] - Quote
VK deathslaer wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Congradulations.
May I hope this will inspire your corporation to start a counter intel program or at least a security policy.
I keep warning people, they do not heed the shark infested waters.
As for reaction, good job admitting it happened, further good job on restating your resolve to build and grow past this set back and lauding the theif in the most proper way, he should have waited I would have agreed. He isn't the brightest bulb in the box. But i managed to take your corp, then take CEO from you, proved how ineffective a leader Jaww Cloud really is. By having an eve contingent and totally ignoring the responsibilities of taking care of your pilots. Not only that he shoulders the main responsibilities of his corp on the rest of his directors and gives them no direction. While at his leisure he sat back and did nothing to help his corp. Every now ex-tritan member says they have strength because of my actions. The strength of an organization is the strength of its leader. Now that leader is weak and has no power also through dissonance he tries to ignore the real problems withn his organization. Planet vikings will always be planet vikings dull, unintelligent, and with much hubris. It is because of this hubris his corp is dead and I suspect rebuilding is highly unlikely. You have shown the community that you aren't capable at leading even sheep into battle. Your corp battles are always total defeats, your pub matches aren't much better. Tritan will never be more then a shadow of what it was so have fun playing cod and battlefield because you aren't good enough to play dust. This should be a stark reminder to the other corps out in the community how not to lead your corp. Insulting and flexing your epeen every chance is just the mentality that brings on insurrection.
All it proves is that your a **** who gets butt hurt when people say they dont trust them. Many people have said that about sham wow |
Gertronis Krytan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:52:00 -
[90] - Quote
VK/Sham, leave your utter ignorance and do not underestimate the leadership of Jaw and all our great leaders. I will not hither as many of my fellow camaraderie to discuss mere nonsense any longer.
Tritan. Together we stand. Together we fight. Together we conquer |
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Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
43
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:55:00 -
[91] - Quote
Unfortunately there was an exploit in the game and shamwow found it. The corp was created in dust and not eve. So the Dust merc was the CEO but he had no access to the shares that were floating. The connection between dust and eve are so minimal that I should have taken better precautions. So it is my fault.
He had no idea that I didnt have the shares and he saw an opportunity to hurt us and he did. I told him that I would make him a director in Eve because I had no other choice. But Sake Monster would always be in control. He got upset and wanted to play god. And teach us a lesson. And he did. He did teach me that the men women I can trust is very few. And this should be a reminder to all corps out there.
We as a community would have gotten closer regardless of what feeble attempt he presented. But in the end the only thing he really accomplished was branding himself and traitor who easily gets his feelings hurt. Trust is gained and you never deserved it., and for, well obvious reason, I doubt you'll never have anyones trust again. |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:55:00 -
[92] - Quote
@VK deathslaer (who I'll just skip quoting because of his long post:
Have you not read any of the rest of this thread? No one is taking you seriously, so your continued deadpan seriousness just makes you all the more laughable.
I know I'm laughing. |
Zig Zag Zan
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:57:00 -
[93] - Quote
Tritan will not falter, we will rise again to the top! |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
43
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:01:00 -
[94] - Quote
You say the strength of the corporation is the strength of its leader???
You'll never be a leader. The strength of a corporation is the strength of its MEMBERS. And I have great members. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2074
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:04:00 -
[95] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:You say the strength of the corporation is the strength of its leader???
You'll never be a leader. The strength of a corporation is the strength of its MEMBERS. And I have great members. Your yelling these words at your monitor right now I can tell. |
Zahle Undt
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:05:00 -
[96] - Quote
VK deathslaer wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Congradulations.
May I hope this will inspire your corporation to start a counter intel program or at least a security policy.
I keep warning people, they do not heed the shark infested waters.
As for reaction, good job admitting it happened, further good job on restating your resolve to build and grow past this set back and lauding the theif in the most proper way, he should have waited I would have agreed. He isn't the brightest bulb in the box. But i managed to take your corp, then take CEO from you, proved how ineffective a leader Jaww Cloud really is. By having an eve contingent and totally ignoring the responsibilities of taking care of your pilots. Not only that he shoulders the main responsibilities of his corp on the rest of his directors and gives them no direction. While at his leisure he sat back and did nothing to help his corp. Every now ex-tritan member says they have strength because of my actions. The strength of an organization is the strength of its leader. Now that leader is weak and has no power also through dissonance he tries to ignore the real problems withn his organization. Planet vikings will always be planet vikings dull, unintelligent, and with much hubris. It is because of this hubris his corp is dead and I suspect rebuilding is highly unlikely. You have shown the community that you aren't capable at leading even sheep into battle. Your corp battles are always total defeats, your pub matches aren't much better. Tritan will never be more then a shadow of what it was so have fun playing cod and battlefield because you aren't good enough to play dust. This should be a stark reminder to the other corps out in the community how not to lead your corp. Insulting and flexing your epeen every chance is just the mentality that brings on insurrection.
You used a game glitch to be a griefing ***hole, an insurrectionist has supporters. If you hadn't noticed, Tritan's membership isn't scurrying to other corps and certainly isn't following you. Most of the Dusters in the corp barely knew who you were. You don't have a corp, you have a name (for now), some ISK, and a bunch of new enemies. Good for you d-bag! You for now have stunted us on the leaderboards, that may hurt a corp without a reputation or that's actively recruiting, we're neither. So as for rebuilding, we'll be just fine pumpkin, thanks |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
233
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:05:00 -
[97] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Corp battle! When you guys are ready. Are you serious? You come after us like this after what happened? Now? REALLY? Since when did Unreal become the new Imperfects..? (Not all imperfects just the dbags and we as a community know who they are, speaking merely from statistics people) Do you think we are in any shape to do a corp battle right now? My god use your brain.
I am sure I said "when you are ready".... maybe I didnt let me check.... yep I did. (Its at the top)
Also I dont know why you are so hostile..... I had nothing to do with this pathetic attempt on dismantling tritan.
Anyways have fun. |
Doc Audio
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:06:00 -
[98] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:You say the strength of the corporation is the strength of its leader???
You'll never be a leader. The strength of a corporation is the strength of its MEMBERS. And I have great members. Your yelling these words at your monitor right now I can tell.
I only yell at the monitor when your sniping on the opposite team!
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Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
44
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:10:00 -
[99] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:You say the strength of the corporation is the strength of its leader???
You'll never be a leader. The strength of a corporation is the strength of its MEMBERS. And I have great members. Your yelling these words at your monitor right now I can tell.
You better believe it!! +1 |
Zahle Undt
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:15:00 -
[100] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Jaww Cloud wrote:You say the strength of the corporation is the strength of its leader???
You'll never be a leader. The strength of a corporation is the strength of its MEMBERS. And I have great members. Your yelling these words at your monitor right now I can tell. You better believe it!! +1 lol I wouldn't want to be on the other end of Jaww's AR tonight if he plays...I can feel the rage from here |
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Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
44
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:19:00 -
[101] - Quote
Right now I just keep getting DCed EVERY SINGLE TIME I go to the neocom and pull up the corp menu. I just wanted that fixed. The game dosnt even know how to process this lol. Does not compute... |
steve killmore
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:23:00 -
[102] - Quote
This corp has had problems sense I started. as soon as I got in the corp I could sense discontent with the way the way jaw was running things. One of the first things I noticed is that was constantly trying to limit what the corp could do. His power hunger attitude is what led to the fall of this corporation. Your CEO is lost he is in checkmate and doesn't know it. the Tritan industries we knew and loved is gone, and the blame lies solely with your once great CEO. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
530
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:23:00 -
[103] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:This corp has had problems sense I started. as soon as I got in the corp I could sense discontent with the way the way jaw was running things. One of the first things I noticed is that was constantly trying to limit what the corp could do. His power hunger attitude is what led to the fall of this corporation. Your CEO is lost he is in checkmate and doesn't know it. the Tritan industries we knew and loved is gone, and the blame lies solely with your once great CEO. Sounds like Alt talk |
Freshticles
Commando Perkone Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:25:00 -
[104] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:This corp has had problems sense I started. as soon as I got in the corp I could sense discontent with the way the way jaw was running things. One of the first things I noticed is that was constantly trying to limit what the corp could do. His power hunger attitude is what led to the fall of this corporation. Your CEO is lost he is in checkmate and doesn't know it. the Tritan industries we knew and loved is gone, and the blame lies solely with your once great CEO. Obvious alt |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
44
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:26:00 -
[105] - Quote
He isnt an alt . Just a member who was never on. Never on the site and never spent time with us. He really has no idea. |
Zahle Undt
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:27:00 -
[106] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:This corp has had problems sense I started. as soon as I got in the corp I could sense discontent with the way the way jaw was running things. One of the first things I noticed is that was constantly trying to limit what the corp could do. His power hunger attitude is what led to the fall of this corporation. Your CEO is lost he is in checkmate and doesn't know it. the Tritan industries we knew and loved is gone, and the blame lies solely with your once great CEO.
Who the hell are you? If you're actually a former member then come out from behind your alt. |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
45
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:33:00 -
[107] - Quote
Steve Killall in EVE he is a close friend of sham... Big surprise there right... |
Barnabas Wrex
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:41:00 -
[108] - Quote
We're still here, and always will be; we just have some turds to flush. |
Sev Alcatraz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:48:00 -
[109] - Quote
i love this, the second we get stabbed in the back everyone comes crawling out of the wood work to our aid, and when that flesh wound in our back heals we will be once again in the position to do the same for everyone else |
Vexen Krios
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:50:00 -
[110] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:This corp has had problems sense I started. as soon as I got in the corp I could sense discontent with the way the way jaw was running things. One of the first things I noticed is that was constantly trying to limit what the corp could do. His power hunger attitude is what led to the fall of this corporation. Your CEO is lost he is in checkmate and doesn't know it. the Tritan industries we knew and loved is gone, and the blame lies solely with your once great CEO.
And who are you again? Been with Tritan since close enough to the beginning since oh like 20 members. Lol your just another target at the bad end of my AR. Try to tear down a corp and discourage its members, who obviously aren't faltering. Good try though.
Jaw, ready to rock when you are, boss
Tritan. Together we stand. Together we fight. Together we conquer. |
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steve killmore
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:57:00 -
[111] - Quote
how can you call me an alt i played constantly this shows how little you know about your corp. not to mention you are changing the subject with this alt crap and insulting me as a person rather than arguing that facts behind what i said. |
Sev Alcatraz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:01:00 -
[112] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:how can you call me an alt i played constantly this shows how little you know about your corp. not to mention you are changing the subject with this alt crap and insulting me as a person rather than arguing that facts behind what i said.
iv been around since forever when there was about 10+ people in corp chat every day and i have never heard of you (whispers: alt) |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
233
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:06:00 -
[113] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:how can you call me an alt i played constantly this shows how little you know about your corp. not to mention you are changing the subject with this alt crap and insulting me as a person rather than arguing that facts behind what i said.
Seriously there is no point in arguing on the forums.... if you feel that tritan and jaww have smudged your name and honor just beat the **** out of them in game.... violence solves everything. |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
47
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:09:00 -
[114] - Quote
Steve your in teamspeak with sham right now. Jax told me and he heard shamrock bitching at you guys for leaving all your crap in the corp hanger.. Smart move... And I only forget those who make NO IMPRESSION on me. |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
47
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:10:00 -
[115] - Quote
Oh by the way guys. They will be flying there to pick this **** up. |
Doc Audio
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:12:00 -
[116] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:how can you call me an alt i played constantly this shows how little you know about your corp. not to mention you are changing the subject with this alt crap and insulting me as a person rather than arguing that facts behind what i said.
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I agree with Vex. If you were trying to be part of the community then those of us that have been around a bit would have at the very least run into you on occasion...either on the forums or in game.
Sounds to me like your friend was butthurt about something that happened with Jaw and instead of forming your own opinion of Tritan you absorbed his.
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Dante Dragonsguard
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:19:00 -
[117] - Quote
I remember Steve. He was one of our newer members. I remember him because his Eve character was in our recruitment chat and i tried helping him out. Hes only been in like 5 -6 days. and ive only ever seen him play once. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
290
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:29:00 -
[118] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:how can you call me an alt i played constantly this shows how little you know about your corp. not to mention you are changing the subject with this alt crap and insulting me as a person rather than arguing that facts behind what i said.
Actually, I did.
Baal Omniscient wrote:Jesse Jayne wrote:Alenivan Caldare wrote:Oh, look...some people who don't know how the world works. You call Sham a fool, an idiot, a turncoat? Your CEO Jaw gave Sham Director and then insulted him. Any person who would be that idiotic deserves what he gets. Honestly Jaw, when I joined the corp, it took me a month to even hear your name, let alone know you as CEO. On the EVE side, Sham was already our leader. He organized us, he taught us, he led us, and what did you do? You tried to control EVE without having even played the game. You called Shamrock a pirate, by your definition everyone in the EVE universe is a pirate. A pawn is what you are, and pawns are to be sacrificed. A pawn may be well utilized, but can never be the king. Awwww how cute someone made an alt to post with ^ *Any statements made by Jesse Jayne do not express the views or opinions of Zion TCD or Legacy Rising, they are the views of Jesse Jayne, anyone has a problem with it they can go **** themselves. That's is all If Sham's a king he must get checkmated constantly, because this was the most laughable point in time he could have possibly made such a move. He's done nothing but give himself up and buy himself a few weeks worth of gear. Hardly worth being impressed by. The only thing this did was give Tritan a short lived inconvenience. There are numerous things he could have done to harm Titan that would have been much worse. In fact I can name several right now without ever having played Eve. For example: He could have waited until you are able to control planets. Started his own corp in secret on an alt. Kicked all of the target corp. Had his real corp move in on their territories, moved in spies from his real corp into the target corp, made half directors so they couldn't be kicked for 24 hours, and forced the target corp to lose those battles. Donated the entirety of the corps funds and armory to the spies in his real corp to be moved to his real corp's stores. Auctioned off the target corps MCC's for dirt cheap. And all of this but the battles themselves could be done in the space of a few hours from what I understand. Hmm.... perhaps I shouldn't be sharing tactics for espionage with the community.... I'll stop there, that's enough to give you an idea of how big a fail this attempt was. Anyway, Sham is a.... sham.... of a king |
steve killmore
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:35:00 -
[119] - Quote
wow your level of stupidity is unmatched jaw your spy cant even get info to you right |
Barnabas Wrex
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:44:00 -
[120] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:wow your level of stupidity is unmatched jaw your spy cant even get info to you right
Who is this idiot who thinks he knows us? lol!
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Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
48
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:46:00 -
[121] - Quote
No spy No need. your 4 people. |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries
48
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:48:00 -
[122] - Quote
And is not true you guys left all your crap in the hanger? That was the only bit of info my "spy" over heard. Because I know for a fact you did. Im sorry you felt like your feelings got hurt because I have no idea who you are. |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:52:00 -
[123] - Quote
Bojo The Mighty wrote:steve killmore wrote:This corp has had problems sense I started. as soon as I got in the corp I could sense discontent with the way the way jaw was running things. One of the first things I noticed is that was constantly trying to limit what the corp could do. His power hunger attitude is what led to the fall of this corporation. Your CEO is lost he is in checkmate and doesn't know it. the Tritan industries we knew and loved is gone, and the blame lies solely with your once great CEO. Sounds like Alt talk What he sounds like is Zion's version of a SoTa PoP |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
489
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:56:00 -
[124] - Quote
steve killmore wrote:how can you call me an alt i played constantly this shows how little you know about your corp. not to mention you are changing the subject with this alt crap and insulting me as a person rather than arguing that facts behind what i said. I've been in the corp since closed beta and I've never even seen your name before.
You aren't fooling anyone, bud. |
Evil-Stuffed-Animal
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
7
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:04:00 -
[125] - Quote
Much love and respect for you guys at Tritan. I just hope that you guys are more careful about who you let into the "Executive Suite" next time. I hope that this show and prove that great dust corps can not just be "vanquished" by insignificant minions. Go back to Eve with that! |
Skihids
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1008
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:53:00 -
[126] - Quote
The active Tritan guys know that Jaw and the top leadership put in a great deal of work to make the corp a success for everyone and that they make themselves available to members in the event they have something to discuss. It's the least dictatorial organization I've been part of. Personally I don't want to work that hard and I'm glad he does.
I knew that I found a worthy home when I joined up and found a copy of my Dropship Flight school post on the site. A member had made the copy and Jaw told him to be sure to attribute the post to the original author (me). This was all before I put in my application, so I knew he had integrity. He has confirmed my initial assessment many times after that.
Tritan is a meritocracy. Prove yourself capable and you can go far. There is no cronyism. But you aren't going to get anything by demanding it and apparently that's what's got VK so upset.
Most importantly for me, Jaw and our leadership recognize this is a game and we play for fun. We aren't looking for a second job (though the SP grind feels like it now), and we don't want to be forced to listen to a bunch of drama from ego driven personalities who measure their entire self worth by their standing in a beta FPS. Setbacks are dealt with in a business like manner without raging, histrionics, or a blame game. I can't stress enough how refreshing that point is. We all strive to be the best and don't blame each other when things don't go our way. We just work together to improve.
That's why I call Tritan home. |
Raxsus Lannister
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.03.09 03:09:00 -
[127] - Quote
This is only a minor setback. I will stand behind Jaww and Tritan until the end, and I'll say it now so bookmark it for future reference. The end is nowhere in sight for Tritan. |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
160
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Posted - 2013.03.09 03:12:00 -
[128] - Quote
So can I have an official statement for the readers of the MRA publication. Do you plan to seek retribution for what has happened? Will war be declared on those who harbor this transgressor? Curious minds want to know these things. |
Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries
26
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Posted - 2013.03.09 04:34:00 -
[129] - Quote
Tritan has officially moved on. This event, like all events, is history. It's what makes us who we are, and what builds our brand. Seeking retribution, or war-dec'ing those who are somehow tied, would be counter-intuitive of a forward thinking and forward moving corporation. It would also be counter-productive, in that as the game is not even released yet, we need to continue to adapt and evolve as the game does. Our energies would be best spent internally.
I apologize to the trolls and readers of this thread and MRA that they will not get the excitement that is corp-drama and drama-fuelled wars. It is what it is.
See you on the battlefield. -Blue DeVille Chief Information Officer tritan-industries.com |
Snaps Tremor
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2013.03.09 05:30:00 -
[130] - Quote
Imagine how exciting all this is going to be when it actually means something! |
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Denak Kalamari
CrimeWave Syndicate
83
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Posted - 2013.03.09 07:14:00 -
[131] - Quote
On behalf of the CrimeWave Syndicate, we are deeply sorry of what has happened. We are aware how all this drama can cause quite a toll on a corporation, especially after betrayal. We extend our most sincere wishes of prosperity to the members of Tritan Industries, and hope to see the corporation rise back to it's former glory. We also guarantee that Shamrock Vulture will have reporcussions for his actions, and will be added to our blacklist indefinitely until further notice. We will also take extra effort to hunt him down and inflict great amounts of pain when with him or against him in battles.
Sincerely, Denak Calamari, representative of the CrimeWave Syndicate |
Mister0Zz
Commando Perkone Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.03.09 07:24:00 -
[132] - Quote
Many thanks Denak, its good to see Tritan's respect for crimewatve is mutual. In fact once the DUST has settled, feel free to hit me up if you need any help. My loyalties remain with Tritan, but i consider Crimewave to be fierce opponents and valued allies. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.03.09 08:59:00 -
[133] - Quote
What did i find here, Is this some kind of LARP meeting?
Is this what ladies talk about when they get their hair and nails done? |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1062
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Posted - 2013.03.09 09:04:00 -
[134] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:I am sure all of you are aware that Shamrock Vurture (aka VK Deathslayer) has gone rogue. He kick everyone from my corp and stole about 170mill ISK from the corp wallet. But I can tell you that this just a minor setback. Its true that I trusted him when I shouldn't have as well as having knowledge of his shady dealings in the past, which I chose to overlook due to his abilities in New Eden.
Good. There needs to be more of this in Dust 514. Welcome to New Eden mates |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
94
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Posted - 2013.03.09 09:35:00 -
[135] - Quote
I've heard instances of this happening before since I started playing last year but this instance is getting a lot of attention due to Tritan being noted as one of the biggest corps. I'm sure this is not the last we've heard of Tritan as it's been around quite a while now. What is uncertain is if CEOs will take this as a lesson learned or if this inspires more Directors to do the same as it is pretty easy to do with little consequence. |
Repe Susi
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
290
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Posted - 2013.03.12 08:14:00 -
[136] - Quote
And yet, on this thread I've seen what, one, maybe to mercs under the Tritan Industries corp. I hear all this fellowship and feeling of togetherness from Ex-Tritons but why haven't you rebuilt yet? I would think it would be imperative to members to join again but haven't seen that. Something's off. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
503
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Posted - 2013.03.12 08:18:00 -
[137] - Quote
Repe Susi wrote:And yet, on this thread I've seen what, one, maybe to mercs under the Tritan Industries corp. I hear all this fellowship and feeling of togetherness from Ex-Tritons but why haven't you rebuilt yet? I would think it would be imperative to members to join again but haven't seen that. Something's off. Jaww's still glitched into his role in the old corp and is working with CCP to find a way to leave.
We're all still here, but the exploitation of the EvE-DUST connection has made getting the in-game nametag a little difficult. |
boba's fetta
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers
11
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Posted - 2013.03.12 08:26:00 -
[138] - Quote
170 mill is that all? fail corp thief. even 1.7 bill is small fry in new eden. how embrassing my pi alts have more isk than he stole. |
Tien TheSecond
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
245
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Posted - 2013.03.12 09:28:00 -
[139] - Quote
Jotun Hiem wrote:Repe Susi wrote:And yet, on this thread I've seen what, one, maybe to mercs under the Tritan Industries corp. I hear all this fellowship and feeling of togetherness from Ex-Tritons but why haven't you rebuilt yet? I would think it would be imperative to members to join again but haven't seen that. Something's off. Jaww's been glitched into his role in the old corp for a couple of days and has been working with CCP to find a way to leave. We're all still here, but the exploitation of the EvE-DUST connection has made getting the in-game nametag a little difficult. Things are rolling along now, though. Then someone else form a Corp, and hand over reigns once Jaww is fixed. There's something seriously off about the failure to regroup here. FFS did nobody learn from BoB? |
Paladin Sas
Veldspar Incorporated The Big Dirty
5
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Posted - 2013.03.12 09:35:00 -
[140] - Quote
Soooo.... basically DUST bunnies are getting a taste of daily New Eden politics.... about time |
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
83
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Posted - 2013.03.12 10:40:00 -
[141] - Quote
170m is pocket money |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion
28
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Posted - 2013.03.13 09:08:00 -
[142] - Quote
Pathetic to hear this has happened.
Regardless of our history, Jaww, I'm sorry this happened and glad to hear you guys are kickin' on and stronger than ever. I've still got some good friends in Tritan and wish you guys all the best on the Battlefield.
Lookin' forward to a true battle with you guys some day. Should be epic. |
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