They actually do very well. The reason you see HAVs isn't because they are overpowered, it's because they serve a role in the game. If everyone was running around in a HAV, that would be kind of pointless. HAVs are not overpowered. If anything, the often urban environment of the districts frequently gives them the finger. Vehicle physics are especially bad, and trying to move through an urban environment with a HAV is like a fat guy squeezing through a hole in the wall.

Either way, there is no reason to remove vehicles, and this has been suggested many times too many.

For Christ's sake, just get some AV grenades. Those things are devastating.

Stop whining. I paid for it, build it, and skilled for it. If you ***** and complain, either A: you don't adapt and I will constantly buttfuck you, or B: You adapt, get a AV fit, and give me a hard time buttfucking the rest of your team. GL mate.

make it happen CCP.. no more hiding in tanks lets see how the big boys do without their metal shelters

if I'm not hiding I'm my metal shelter, I'm hiding in another I call my heavy suit

Guys be men, stop crying, nowadays have a lot of way to kill tanks and the best way = teamwork !

I'm saying keep the other game modes but have a mode for just gun fights

I know what you are saying, and it doesn't matter. This is war. In war, we use weapons. Vehicles are a weapon. Such a game mode would be similar to a game mode that removes Sniper Rifles and Shotguns, or one that removes Heavy Machine Guns and Laser Rifles. There are roles in the battlefield, and removing multiple roles, let alone one, threatens the balance of things.

I know what you are saying, and it doesn't matter. This is war. In war, we use weapons. Vehicles are a weapon. Such a game mode would be similar to a game mode that removes Sniper Rifles and Shotguns, or one that removes Heavy Machine Guns and Laser Rifles. There are roles in the battlefield, and removing multiple roles, let alone one, threatens the balance of things.

if I'm not hiding I'm my metal shelter, I'm hiding in another I call my heavy suit

true but we are talking about 4k+ of shield/ armor with 3~4 hits to kill infantry vs like standard 200+ hp rifles maniacs

I agree with this... to an extent. There shouldn't be a game mode that bans tanks, however, I would like to see some maps that no idiot would bring a tank in on (in a forest, on a mountain, in caves or catacombs, basically anything catered to close quarters).

As a MAG fan, I'd like to see Dust use the concept of anti-aircraft artillery to shoot down RDV's. In MAG, the defending team had a AAA which would shoot down any incoming planes automatically, forcing the attacking team to blow it up first, then call in their support. Personally I think this would be a great concept for Dust, if you don't want to face tanks, better get your butt to the AAA and ensure it doesn't get blown up.

They actually do very well. The reason you see HAVs isn't because they are overpowered, it's because they serve a role in the game. If everyone was running around in a HAV, that would be kind of pointless. HAVs are not overpowered. If anything, the often urban environment of the districts frequently gives them the finger. Vehicle physics are especially bad, and trying to move through an urban environment with a HAV is like a fat guy squeezing through a hole in the wall.

Either way, there is no reason to remove vehicles, and this has been suggested many times too many.

For Christ's sake, just get some AV grenades. Those things are devastating.

Lastly, the only antitank is another tank. You really have too little experience with Dust if you have not come to understand that.

Until CCP gives us bombers and jets, !

Oh the Derpa derp tears will be flowing then.

I agree with this... to an extent. There shouldn't be a game mode that bans tanks, however, I would like to see some maps that no idiot would bring a tank in on (in a forest, on a mountain, in caves or catacombs, basically anything catered to close quarters).

You obviously are not a good HAV player, as it stands right now, folks trying to skill up, or just get some training have to deal with good players who use HAV as their 'Drop suit'.

What does that get a good HAV player(not you, because of what you said above, maybe you spoke too fast)
- (Can easily get out of dodge, because they know/are aware of good cover.) You cannot headshot/OHK a HAV. Good players cannot be killed without focus fire from multiple players. Not true for any other player with exception of Heavy suit much better with 2 attackers but surprise will let you kill one on one.
- Have unlimited ammo requiring no/little support. They thought it important for Heavy Drop suits to have limits... Not HAV drop suit.. Those players are OK to be fully self sufficient for their 8 minutes of fun.
- move faster than players when they need to. Talking about good players, who are situationaly aware not to be in stupid area.
- Immune to anti-infantry weapons. You come in one suit, and never have to adapt. But the infantry needs to die to your gun, or get to Supply Depot and change to be almost helpless against infantry so he can hurt the player in HAV drop suit. Again, talking about all good players out on the field. So HAV kills everything, but you have to take serious penalty.

I can go on, because I've actually played the game like OP, but to my point. Killing tanks is just not worth the reward for all the risks that you take as infantry AV. You come out as net loss, all the time the HAV player is getting better in his self sufficient kill everyone, immune to most weapons Drop suit. So everyone else takes serious negative for supposed advantage while HAV because of 'Isk' cost have none. In reality, there is no balance between such players during their 8 minute fight. And that is the point of OP.

Again, think about all competent/good players on field before you talk.

Lastly, the only antitank is another tank. You really have too little experience with Dust if you have not come to understand that.