Ok, it's time to clear up some misconceptions.

Despite the half quote by the OP which lead to the conclusion that this is to segregate the community by controller input types (which is not case), there are a lot of good feedback, and suggestions about this topic and this is exactly what we want to hear from you, our player community.

What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it, which doesn't make much sense as many others have pointed out. If this is implemented into the Matchmaking system it will be done in a way that will not force a segregation of players who use different control inputs. And if this is implemented we will still allow mixed control input matches. To reinterate, this is about giving more choices to our players and not taking it away from you.

One more thing I would like to add is that Matchmaking will only affect high sec public matches and will not affect null sec matches.

We will continue to fine tune the controller sensitivity levels and work on balancing the game play.

I vote 5. Get rid of the KB&M option.

Everyone is equal, everyone knows the score and CCP owns the decision to go console only.

The only reason it's been left in from the original development of the game on PC was as a olive branch to the bitter vets in Eve who absolutely think that consoles have NO business in New Eden affairs.

It's a waste of resources trying to balance multiple input devices. Just use the one that comes in the box with the PS3, the dualshock. When a KB&M and mouse comes standard with a PS3 then fine. Till then stick to the dualshock only option.

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and don't give noobs the option to play only against other noobs using controllers.
lame.

You read his quote?

Think about it for a second

Match making aka matching players up,

Based on control input, either KB/M or joystick.

Its pretty obvious imo.

Are you really sure, i think you can make a match with DS3 and KBM in same squad, they just make a system to try to put same control together you still can play with your friend with different controller

Dragging it here from another thread as I feel it needs to be said here as well.

I go back and forth between the two regularly as sometimes I'm too lazy to set up the KB/M. Currently, and in the past, except for one or two builds, I can tell you that the max turn rate on the mouse is the same as the max turn rate on the DS3.

DS3 controller gives me a finer gradient of control over movement and I aim fairly well with it as well.

KB/M I give up that fine movement control to get better aim control, well for me anyway. The mouse also has a bit of a disadvantage as when using one, I have to pick up and readjust the mouse as I'm making wide sweeps which causes my aim to pause for that fraction of a second. You don't have to deal with that when using the DS3 and I can tell because no-body has brought it up either.

Still, I personally know some people who are much better shots than I am and they use controllers. If you're whole issue is that I can put the dot on a pro sniper with my mouse just as easily as he puts the dot on me with the controller he's very familiar with, then your just prejudiced against KB/M or ignorant of it's limitation.

So quit making up crap like KB/M turns faster. it doesn't. Quit saying it has better movement controls, because it doesn't. The reason some of us do well with it is because it's what we're accustomed to just like many of you are accustomed to the DS3.

And finally quit whining just because people can do just as well with the KB/M as others are obviously doing with the DS3. Seriously, the smart people are seeing that there are those who are trying to cut down on how much serious competition is out there for the Elitist DS3ers.

Segregation wont work. What happens if I squad up using my kb/m with 3 corp mates with controllers? This would cause more harm than good.

I vote 5. Get rid of the KB&M option.

Everyone is equal, everyone knows the score and CCP owns the decision to go console only.

The only reason it's been left in from the original development of the game on PC was as a olive branch to the bitter vets in Eve who absolutely think that consoles have NO business in New Eden affairs.

It's a waste of resources trying to balance multiple input devices. Just use the one that comes in the box with the PS3, the duelshock. When a KB&M and mouse comes standard with a PS3 then fine. Till then stick to the duelshock only option.

If you use the inferior control scheme against a player of equal skill you deserve to lose.

Just to repeat what Cmdr Wang said in the other thread, there is no intent to segregate players because of controller used, only for it to play a factor in matchmaking.

Just to repeat what Cmdr Wang said in the other thread, there is no intent to segregate players because of controller used, only for it to play a factor in matchmaking. Additionally, this only applies to high security public matches and does not apply to null sec or corp matches.

Just to repeat what Cmdr Wang said in the other thread, there is no intent to segregate players because of controller used, only for it to play a factor in matchmaking. Additionally, this only applies to high security public matches and does not apply to null sec or corp matches.

There may have been no intent, but it's obvious that's what the result would be. Furthermore, no one wants it (a few loudmouths want KMB removed from the game, hardly the same thing). Ignoring your customers' feedback is a dangerous road to walk.

It's funny, the game was a lot better before Instant Battle even existed. I still see it as wasted resources, it's not adding positive gameplay at a rate that merits all the dev attention.

Yeah, I still think all the work being done on matchmaking is wasted resources. Give the good players something better to do than "pub stomp for SP" and you won't see us in high sec instant battles anymore, and suddenly no need for the matchmaking system because the skilled are off doing something more worthwhile.

Like many other people have said ; If you feel the need to make any sort of changes to matchmaking, it indicates the input methods are not balanced. Currently, the bugs where turn speed limits were un-nerfed for mouse/keyboard, and the keyboard speed bug for armor tanks are really the only things that are imbalanced regarding the input methods.

Fix these, and there is no reason whatsoever to have any sort of filter or matchmaking changes because there will be no difference in performance other than player preference.

It's really that simple.

Dont give us any more options , keep everything as a HUGE clusterfuck.

Let Kb/M users **** DS3 users so they can feel better since they cant **** Kb/M users as easy as DS3 ones.

Perhaps I should really **** people off and go hybrid control using left stick to move and mouse to turn and aim. Then I'd have the best of both worlds.

Wait... There are players already doing that. LOL