DUST Search - [Vote] Kb/m Joystick segregate

Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:

Dragging it here from another thread as I feel it needs to be said here as well.

I go back and forth between the two regularly as sometimes I'm too lazy to set up the KB/M. Currently, and in the past, except for one or two builds, I can tell you that the max turn rate on the mouse is the same as the max turn rate on the DS3.

DS3 controller gives me a finer gradient of control over movement and I aim fairly well with it as well.

KB/M I give up that fine movement control to get better aim control, well for me anyway. The mouse also has a bit of a disadvantage as when using one, I have to pick up and readjust the mouse as I'm making wide sweeps which causes my aim to pause for that fraction of a second. You don't have to deal with that when using the DS3 and I can tell because no-body has brought it up either.

Still, I personally know some people who are much better shots than I am and they use controllers. If you're whole issue is that I can put the dot on a pro sniper with my mouse just as easily as he puts the dot on me with the controller he's very familiar with, then your just prejudiced against KB/M or ignorant of it's limitation.

So quit making up crap like KB/M turns faster. it doesn't. Quit saying it has better movement controls, because it doesn't. The reason some of us do well with it is because it's what we're accustomed to just like many of you are accustomed to the DS3.

And finally quit whining just because people can do just as well with the KB/M as others are obviously doing with the DS3. Seriously, the smart people are seeing that there are those who are trying to cut down on how much serious competition is out there for the Elitist DS3ers.


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Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 247	Posted - 2013.03.02 11:17:00 - [1] - Quote anyone who says dont segregate must be using kb/m. Its far superior in alot of situations, and similar in all other. Ive been playing War Thunder lately (like world of warplanes) and people are moaning their heads off about kb/m users being far too effective compared to those going out and buying joysticks. AND THATS A PC GAME! The control that you get with a kb/m compared to a ds3 is not insane, but its eaiser to twitch to target and land on it rather than pass it. Its far easier for sniping. and awesome for point and click tanking. only place id rather have my ds3 is my dropship. every other scenario kb/m is either on par, better, or comparatively awesome
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:24:00 - [2] - Quote Shijima Kuraimaru wrote: Dragging it here from another thread as I feel it needs to be said here as well. I go back and forth between the two regularly as sometimes I'm too lazy to set up the KB/M. Currently, and in the past, except for one or two builds, I can tell you that the max turn rate on the mouse is the same as the max turn rate on the DS3. DS3 controller gives me a finer gradient of control over movement and I aim fairly well with it as well. KB/M I give up that fine movement control to get better aim control, well for me anyway. The mouse also has a bit of a disadvantage as when using one, I have to pick up and readjust the mouse as I'm making wide sweeps which causes my aim to pause for that fraction of a second. You don't have to deal with that when using the DS3 and I can tell because no-body has brought it up either. Still, I personally know some people who are much better shots than I am and they use controllers. If you're whole issue is that I can put the dot on a pro sniper with my mouse just as easily as he puts the dot on me with the controller he's very familiar with, then your just prejudiced against KB/M or ignorant of it's limitation. So quit making up crap like KB/M turns faster. it doesn't. Quit saying it has better movement controls, because it doesn't. The reason some of us do well with it is because it's what we're accustomed to just like many of you are accustomed to the DS3. And finally quit whining just because people can do just as well with the KB/M as others are obviously doing with the DS3. Seriously, the smart people are seeing that there are those who are trying to cut down on how much serious competition is out there for the Elitist DS3ers. If there's no difference between ds3 and kb/m then: 1: why go the the trouble of moving your ps3 from the lounge/bedroom/wherever to a desk. 2: struggling with a mouse on the couch 3: if you thought there was no advantage over ds3 users or even that ds3 users had an advantage over kb/m, why would you care about being segregated from them in the first place. If your worse than them because of kb/m why would you put yourself at a disadvantage. If your the same, there's no difference. It's pub matches they're talking about anyway. 4: finally everyone is insane who thinks that kb/m =/< ds3 for control. That's why you'd rather pay -ú150 quid or more for an elite gaming kb/m for your pc and or ps3. Rather than using your already purchased console controler for your console and pc, which by admission of everyone here complaining about possible segregation that they are the same anyway
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:28:00 - [3] - Quote Doshneil Antaro wrote: Segregation wont work. What happens if I squad up using my kb/m with 3 corp mates with controllers? This would cause more harm than good. Then you would play with players who don't care about what input is being used and haven't ticked the box saying prefer DS3 players/prefer kb/m players.
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:32:00 - [4] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: I vote 5. Get rid of the KB&M option. Everyone is equal, everyone knows the score and CCP owns the decision to go console only. The only reason it's been left in from the original development of the game on PC was as a olive branch to the bitter vets in Eve who absolutely think that consoles have NO business in New Eden affairs. It's a waste of resources trying to balance multiple input devices. Just use the one that comes in the box with the PS3, the duelshock. When a KB&M and mouse comes standard with a PS3 then fine. Till then stick to the duelshock only option. It's a bit late for that now I think as clearly the most vocal players are kb/m. It shouldn't have been introduced in the first place. As I warned about like 6 months ago with many many others. But again ds3 players aren't as vocal as kb/m players on the forums and if you don't make your mind known, your wants and needs aren't assessed.
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:55:00 - [5] - Quote These sort of idea's are why we are having this argument right now; #12Posted: 2012.07.05 19:35 \| Report 2 EDIT: just realised that these topics have been locked, no gm/dev post saying why but I assume its so no one who faught against it originally can say 'I told you so' like I was just about to. But those threads are still they're and a quick search will enlighten you to the sheer idiocy of some people. To not quote but to paraphrase one of the ones I'd found that I'd replied to: M/kb users: ds3 users are a minority, kb/m is an advantage and it should be. The few ds3 users should stop being stubborn and go and get a m/kb. Game pad users are holding back the game. Ds3 users: are you high? And the threads continue on in that fashion for some time. I was going to quote some other posts from before the kb/m became available, but since they're all locked So I can't quote or post links there really is no point continuing. All that's left to say is: I told you so
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.03.04 10:56:00 - [6] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: If you use the inferior control scheme against a player of equal skill you deserve to lose. This is a console. See my above post to as why your the root cause of this whole argument. Or atleast your way of thinking is