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Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:47:00 -
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Prepare for a some serious crying here. Trolls lick your lips.
The squad system sucks, sucks worst that the last system. Now, instead of complaining about a squad that's not full, I'm complaining about being squad leader of nobody.
Occasionally a person or two will join the squad and I think, awesome, an orbital is in the cards. Except these blue dots go 0-6 and possibly manage 100 war points each.
I often get around 2000 war points myself, and to be short changed by terrible blue dots is a kick in the pants. Then I try to be thankful that they even knew enough to join a squad. But only after I begged/ instructed them to join a squad.
I bet I know what some of you are thinking. Join a corp. On to part two: I hate corporations. I've tried two of them, but all corps are the same. Full of politics. And to be honest, I'm antisocial in real life, so I don't know how to climb the corp ladder over a microphone. My problem I guess.
My point is I don't want to join one if I don't have to. Hopefully CCP will offer individual merc contracts in the future.
Most corps are full of great players, but lack any decency when it comes to crushing non corp blue dots. They fiend the red line like they are so thirsty for blood and camp cru's like that is fun or fair. They will pull out two tanks and a drop ship in a random pub match with a victory in the bag, which, I guess isn't terrible, but I still hate them for it.
Funny thing is, if they are not in their corp squad, they don't try during games and sometimes even quit. Catching them alone is ten times different. Suddenly, their invincible magic is greatly reduced. I sometimes wonder if its the same person.
Back to orbitals . . . while I'm praying to get an orbital (sometimes I do, at the tail end of the match when the game is about to expire, so I barely have time to look at my map, let alone get somewhere safe to call one) . . . while I'm doing that some corp gets orbitals early and often. I've seen corp squads get three in a match while I'm can't even eek out one.
I'd understand if I got a lot of grief for this thread. The blue dots that don't join squads probably don't read the forums either.
Vent over. |
General John Ripper
Baltar Research
22
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:51:00 -
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HTFU |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
325
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:53:00 -
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I can understand your frustration. Find dudes in your local to squad up with that have mics. These guys are usually better than your typical newberry. If you don't like the ideals or way Corporations operate. Make a corp of your own and recruit people that share the same thought as you do, run it how you see fit. Though this may be hard considering your Emo, I mean antisocial and all that ...
You can't really complain about not getting an orbital when you shouldn't even be expecting one if you didn't setup or find a proper squad |
TITAN A-D
XERCORE R.E.P.O.
15
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:55:00 -
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Who the hell cares |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:55:00 -
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so... you want to play with other people in a squad but don't want to play with other people. How is this CCPs problem?
Get over yourself, join a corp. If it isn't working join another one. You think you'll get good teamwork by playing with randoms on a pub match?
This is a team-based shooter. Join a team and stop complaining. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:56:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:I can understand your frustration. Find dudes in your local to squad up with that have mics. These guys are usually better than your typical newberry. If you don't like the ideals or way Corporations operate. Make a corp of your own and recruit people that share the same thought as you do, run it how you see fit. Though this may be hard considering your Emo, I mean antisocial and all that ... You can't really complain about not getting an orbital when you shouldn't even be expecting one if you didn't setup or find a proper squad
Thanks for the advice. |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
231
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:57:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Prepare for a some serious crying here. Trolls lick your lips.
The squad system sucks, sucks worst that the last system. Now, instead of complaining about a squad that's not full, I'm complaining about being squad leader of nobody.
Occasionally a person or two will join the squad and I think, awesome, an orbital is in the cards. Except these blue dots go 0-6 and possibly manage 100 war points each.
I often get around 2000 war points myself, and to be short changed by terrible blue dots is a kick in the pants. Then I try to be thankful that they even knew enough to join a squad. But only after I begged/ instructed them to join a squad.
I bet I know what some of you are thinking. Join a corp. On to part two: I hate corporations. I've tried two of them, but all corps are the same. Full of politics. And to be honest, I'm antisocial in real life, so I don't know how to climb the corp ladder over a microphone. My problem I guess.
My point is I don't want to join one if I don't have to. Hopefully CCP will offer individual merc contracts in the future.
Most corps are full of great players, but lack any decency when it comes to crushing non corp blue dots. They fiend the red line like they are so thirsty for blood and camp cru's like that is fun or fair. They will pull out two tanks and a drop ship in a random pub match with a victory in the bag, which, I guess isn't terrible, but I still hate them for it.
Funny thing is, if they are not in their corp squad, they don't try during games and sometimes even quit. Catching them alone is ten times different. Suddenly, their invincible magic is greatly reduced. I sometimes wonder if its the same person.
Back to orbitals . . . while I'm praying to get an orbital (sometimes I do, at the tail end of the match when the game is about to expire, so I barely have time to look at my map, let alone get somewhere safe to call one) . . . while I'm doing that some corp gets orbitals early and often. I've seen corp squads get three in a match while I'm can't even eek out one.
I'd understand if I got a lot of grief for this thread. The blue dots that don't join squads probably don't read the forums either.
Vent over.
What I don't get is this game is team game, not a lone wolf game. You need a squad and eventually a corp. Like previous poster mentioned make your own corp if you can't get along with others.
Also no two corps are the same, find one that is fun for you and you will be fine.
You can't QQ about a team aspect like Orbitals and at the same time say you don't want to corp up.
My suggestion go chat with some corps; Zion, STB are two fun corps. Give them a shout out. |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:57:00 -
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Have you considered finding/joining a public chat channel thats not local? More times then not you will find more experienced players then average and most of the time less corp affiliations and less chance they will out and out strong arm a map as often as a corp squad can. |
Kram Ennett
R.I.f.t
7
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:58:00 -
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if you hate the corp politics then just stay out of them. Unless the corp you join requires all members to be jerks to each other then just use it as a place to meet some good players, squad up and queue.
If it really becomes horrible then add the ones you like to your contacts and leave.
Then you'll still have a list of the players you liked without the corp drama (which I'm guessing is being overstated, but whatevs) |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:59:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:so... you want to play with other people in a squad but don't want to play with other people. How is this CCPs problem?
Get over yourself, join a corp. If it isn't working join another one. You think you'll get good teamwork by playing with randoms on a pub match?
This is a team-based shooter. Join a team and stop complaining.
Dude, if you're not in the top 8 of a corp then your screwed for corp battles and it's the high school lunch table drama.
Anyway, I expected this would rub peeps the wrong way, so bring it. Complaining, expression, forums, goes with the territory. |
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Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:00:00 -
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Kram Ennett wrote:if you hate the corp politics then just stay out of them. Unless the corp you join requires all members to be jerks to each other then just use it as a place to meet some good players, squad up and queue.
If it really becomes horrible then add the ones you like to your contacts and leave.
Then you'll still have a list of the players you liked without the corp drama (which I'm guessing is being overstated, but whatevs)
Thanks for the advice. |
Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
89
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:00:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Prepare for a some serious crying here. Trolls lick your lips.
The squad system sucks, sucks worst that the last system. Now, instead of complaining about a squad that's not full, I'm complaining about being squad leader of nobody.
Occasionally a person or two will join the squad and I think, awesome, an orbital is in the cards. Except these blue dots go 0-6 and possibly manage 100 war points each.
I often get around 2000 war points myself, and to be short changed by terrible blue dots is a kick in the pants. Then I try to be thankful that they even knew enough to join a squad. But only after I begged/ instructed them to join a squad. Well, you need to go find people to play with. Don't rely on random blue-dots. Find friends, cruise the Local chat, join a corp. But you need to put some effort in here.
Vanda-Kon wrote:I bet I know what some of you are thinking. Join a corp. On to part two: I hate corporations. I've tried two of them, but all corps are the same. Full of politics. And to be honest, I'm antisocial in real life, so I don't know how to climb the corp ladder over a microphone. My problem I guess.
My point is I don't want to join one if I don't have to. Hopefully CCP will offer individual merc contracts in the future. You join 2 corps and decide that all are the same. Yeah...it doesn't work that way. Make one yourself or do some actual research before joining. Not all corps are there to just be the best, not all have politics. Some just want to play the game.
You don't have to join corps if you don't want to...but you have to deal with Blue-Dots then, and you are nothing but a Blue-Dot to everyone else. Accept the consequences of your actions. Corps are the focus in the game, not the randoms.
Vanda-Kon wrote:Most corps are full of great players, but lack any decency when it comes to crushing non corp blue dots. They fiend the red line like they are so thirsty for blood and camp cru's like that is fun or fair. They will pull out two tanks and a drop ship in a random pub match with a victory in the bag, which, I guess isn't terrible, but I still hate them for it. So...you're saying people are bad for...trying to win the game? Have you ever played a shooter before Dust, especially MAG?
Vanda-Kon wrote:Funny thing is, if they are not in their corp squad, they don't try during games and sometimes even quit. Catching them alone is ten times different. Suddenly, their invincible magic is greatly reduced. I sometimes wonder if its the same person. First, many people play much, much better when they have support and are playing with those who compliment themselves. Having someone you can trust to watch your back can make a world of difference. And yes, there are also a lot of people who don't try as hard when soloing, because Blue-Dots suck 90% of the time
Vanda-Kon wrote:Back to orbitals . . . while I'm praying to get an orbital (sometimes I do, at the tail end of the match when the game is about to expire, so I barely have time to look at my map, let alone get somewhere safe to call one) . . . while I'm doing that some corp gets orbitals early and often. I've seen corp squads get three in a match while I'm can't even eek out one.
I'd understand if I got a lot of grief for this thread. The blue dots that don't join squads probably don't read the forums either.
Vent over. Hmm...because the way to get orbitals is to have your squad get a lot of War Points, it makes sense that squads that work well and earn a lot of WP get more strikes...solo players will NOT get orbitals as often, if at all. Its a squad effort, not a solo effort.
It is mostly your own fault. You choose to solo, so you have to deal with all the crap that comes with it. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:01:00 -
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Jack Of Evermore wrote:Have you considered finding/joining a public chat channel thats not local? More times then not you will find more experienced players then average and most of the time less corp affiliations and less chance they will out and out strong arm a map as often as a corp squad can.
Thanks for the advice. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:02:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:so... you want to play with other people in a squad but don't want to play with other people. How is this CCPs problem?
Get over yourself, join a corp. If it isn't working join another one. You think you'll get good teamwork by playing with randoms on a pub match?
This is a team-based shooter. Join a team and stop complaining. Dude, if you're not in the top 8 of a corp then your screwed for corp battles and it's the high school lunch table drama. Anyway, I expected this would rub peeps the wrong way, so bring it. Complaining, expression, forums, goes with the territory.
You make a good point, as I'm sure some corps work this way. However not all do. Some will look to include newbros in their corp matches. Particularly the forward thinking ones who see these 8v8 matches as temporary.
So, find a quality corp. |
Dusters Blog
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:05:00 -
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in this big a galaxy there is room for everyone. even the anti social. we talked about variety of contract types [including solo ones] in this piece: http://t.co/NLdgKCwc |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:05:00 -
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I probably would not have complained as much if squads were automatically filled every time. It's not that much to ask for. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:13:00 -
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holy fng crap!! listen to yourself! re read your op. who the hell would want to play on your team never mind your squad? worried about getting orbitals? how bout helping some of them berries understand what one is, they may not know, but you didn't think of that. don't complain if you don't sociallize well or much, i can see why. start your own corp and promote anger management so you can get along with people better. not everybody plays god mode, get over it, that's life. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2865
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:15:00 -
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If you have to rely on an orbital strike as a lone wolf. You're playing the game way entirely wrong.
-Fellow Lone Wolfer |
Rhuvian Marccus
Deep Space Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:18:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:so... you want to play with other people in a squad but don't want to play with other people. How is this CCPs problem?
Get over yourself, join a corp. If it isn't working join another one. You think you'll get good teamwork by playing with randoms on a pub match?
This is a team-based shooter. Join a team and stop complaining. Dude, if you're not in the top 8 of a corp then your screwed for corp battles and it's the high school lunch table drama. Anyway, I expected this would rub peeps the wrong way, so bring it. Complaining, expression, forums, goes with the territory.
Feel free to join Deep Space Republic's public channel - no pressure to join - just a regular group of guys who love to squad up and try to enjoy their evening. I have been with them for weeks and have yet to see a single instance of drama or politics, at all. We don't care for popularity contests, so if you're on, you're in - period.
If you decide to try running your own corp, join our alliance channel (e-mail me in game for info if interested) and it will give you access to many players from other smaller corps who are always more than happy to squad up and try to have some fun. |
LXicon
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:18:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Jack Of Evermore wrote:Have you considered finding/joining a public chat channel thats not local? More times then not you will find more experienced players then average and most of the time less corp affiliations and less chance they will out and out strong arm a map as often as a corp squad can. Thanks for the advice.
i've avoided corps as well until we are further along in the beta so i know where you are coming from.
join the public chat channel LFSquad and just post "lfs". if you want to be specific : "lfs with mic @:17" -where @:17 is the current minutes past the hour. that way people know if you just posted or if you posted 5 minutes ago and are already in a game.
LFSquad is a good public channel where you find players like you and me who don't have or want a corp yet as well as players from various corps looking to fill up their squads between games. they'll post stuff like "rf2" or "rf1" showing the number of players they have room for on their squad.
once you get a good squad going, you can have fun for the rest of the play session. if you play well together, you'll get some corp invites or at least the names of the public channels for those corps. then you can keep any eye out for "rf1" posts on the corp channels that you've had good play sessions with. |
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Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:27:00 -
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DUST University is an example of a corp that is less about the politics and more about playing the game, having fun and trying to become better...sure many of us are just organized blueberries, but we're all making an effort to get our act together and get better. DUST University is a sister corp of EVE University which has been around since 2007...so they're pretty organized (at least as much as you can be with our current mechanics).
We want as much membership participation in corp battles as we can get.
DUST-Uni might not be for you Vanda-Kon, but there are all types of corps out there looking for a variety of play styles. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:33:00 -
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Try the LFSquad channel you will find people to squad with 0 politics involved |
i-get-pubstomped all-day
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:02:00 -
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<3 this thread. |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
94
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:42:00 -
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LFSquad channel is full of good people. V4H channel is cool to (shameless plug) |
Jack Sharkey42
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:44:00 -
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You average 2000 WP PER match? I think at this point you just need a few more skills and you'll easily be able to summon your own Orbital strikes if you're seriously that good |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:52:00 -
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Edit: Corp recruitment withdrawn! |
Villanor Aquarius
Shattered Ascension
79
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:00:00 -
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Quote:Welp if you want a drama free CORP with guys that love to ground pound and not worry about silly politics hit me up in game and I will get you to squad up with some of the boys in Red Star. I cant guarantee team stacks against them blue dots but you will sure have fun.
The corp of the man who posted several threads about how he intends to AFK farm because playing is pointless sounds like just the place I'd want to be.
But OP honestly just find a corp that fits you. A lot of the corps are a bunch of stupid drama crap, but there are also a lot out there that aren't. Find one that isn't one of the "big names" a lot of those are big names because of stuff like you said.
A lot of smaller corps are always looking for new people and usually the only requirement is that you are willing to work with other players and have a mic. Shattered Ascension and numerous other corps like us are just some knowledgeable players who work together and squad up when people are online. Being in a corp you'll learn a lot more depth about the game just from interacting with other members who are playing it in different ways and you'll have the opportunity to be in squads that actually function together a lot more.
Also the reason you'll see corps drop in a lot of vehicles is because the vehicles are a lot of fun to use and have some really cool modules and such and when you have other people playing with you that you can coordinate with you have a much better chance of keeping that investment alive. |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:02:00 -
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im still in my starter corp too and i prefer it that way. I would love to be able to accept solo assasin or bounty hunter contracts. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:03:00 -
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Villanor Aquarius wrote:Quote:Welp if you want a drama free CORP with guys that love to ground pound and not worry about silly politics hit me up in game and I will get you to squad up with some of the boys in Red Star. I cant guarantee team stacks against them blue dots but you will sure have fun. The corp of the man who posted several threads about how he intends to AFK farm because playing is pointless sounds like just the place I'd want to be. But OP honestly just find a corp that fits you. A lot of the corps are a bunch of stupid drama crap, but there are also a lot out there that aren't. Find one that isn't one of the "big names" a lot of those are big names because of stuff like you said. A lot of smaller corps are always looking for new people and usually the only requirement is that you are willing to work with other players and have a mic. Shattered Ascension and numerous other corps like us are just some knowledgeable players who work together and squad up when people are online. Being in a corp you'll learn a lot more depth about the game just from interacting with other members who are playing it in different ways and you'll have the opportunity to be in squads that actually function together a lot more. Also the reason you'll see corps drop in a lot of vehicles is because the vehicles are a lot of fun to use and have some really cool modules and such and when you have other people playing with you that you can coordinate with you have a much better chance of keeping that investment alive.
This |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
29
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:05:00 -
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You're either a troll, or a really naive casual.
Not all corporations are the same, just like not all players are the same.
Getting frustrated about it and ranting isn't going to fix your problem. Getting off your ass and doing a corp search will.
Personally, I don't deal with politics; I deal with competent, active corps that don't do bullshit. the MSF is one such corp. |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:07:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:You're either a troll, or a really naive casual.
Not all corporations are the same, just like not all players are the same.
Getting frustrated about it and ranting isn't going to fix your problem. Getting off your ass and doing a corp search will.
Personally, I don't deal with politics; I deal with competent, active corps that don't do bullshit. the MSF is one such corp.
He is not a troll and infact a very skilled player. I have seen him in game enough to respect his skills. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:23:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote: . . OP POST . .
So you want powerful teamwork but you hate powerful teamwork??? |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:25:00 -
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@Vanda,
You should try the text chat channel "LFsquad" if it still exists (very likely). That is a non-political channel with single purpose: let strangers form squads. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
47
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:28:00 -
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Join my Corp Coalition Of Goverments we have no politics, just tom foolery |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:41:00 -
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Join SMERG. We are awful but still get orbitals. This way it prevents the "unfair" camping aspect you dislike, but we have enough idiots smacking our face against the keyboard that at least 1 orbital is in the cards per match.
Also, we don't have a corporate ladder because I don't give roles to anyone besides my brother, and this system has worked with my corp of 100+ for years. From the EVE side we take a ventrilo vote and whoever is there decides policy, and I make the changes necessary. Everyone has equal say, just not actual roles to steal crap. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:44:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote: Dude, if you're not in the top 8 of a corp then your screwed for corp battles and it's the high school lunch table drama.
Anyway, I expected this would rub peeps the wrong way, so bring it. Complaining, expression, forums, goes with the territory.
Dunno where you get your info from. Corps rotate their players through corp battles all the time. It gets them all experience. When we run ours, we try to integrate the vets with the newer players on every single battle we do.....
There are a lot of corps out there that do this. If you had a bad experience with a Clan, please don't let that create a blanket stereotype or you'll never enjoy this game to the extent that you possibly could. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:45:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote: You make a good point, as I'm sure some corps work this way. However not all do. Some will look to include newbros in their corp matches. Particularly the forward thinking ones who see these 8v8 matches as temporary.
So, find a quality corp.
Exactly, in fact we schedule training matches with PFBHz and other ROFL corps all the time where all that are in the matches are newer members or people we're simply trying to get experience. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:50:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote: Dunno where you get your info from. Corps rotate their players through corp battles all the time. It gets them all experience. When we run ours, we try to integrate the vets with the newer players on every single battle we do.....
There are a lot of corps out there that do this. If you had a bad experience with a Clan, please don't let that create a blanket stereotype or you'll never enjoy this game to the extent that you possibly could.
Hey fahrenheitM. Unfortunately what Vanda said has some merit to. While there are corps that rotate the roster there are a lot of corps that have a steady line up. It also depends on who the corp is playing. We have had people join Red Star. from well known corps having the same hiccup that they were not able to participate in corp battles. |
The Infected One
CrimeWave Syndicate
126
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Posted - 2013.02.21 19:57:00 -
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Vanda, we had you scheduled in for a corp battle against synergy, the only reason you didn't get into the corp battle that we had the day you joined us is because we already had the squads made up. You were with hell storm for a while, we knew you're a good player, it was just bad timing on that one.
You complained that you couldn't find a squad, we broke squads apart to make smaller squads to get you in with a group as well as invited you to our alliance chat channel with 4 other corporations we frequently squad up with.
You are being very honest saying that you are anti-social, but as far as not being included if you aren't part of the top 8, not getting into corp matches, a little more patience than the 3 or 4 days that you had with us is generally required as we all work and don't always have someone on to host/join a corp battle with you. We schedule corp battles all the time, if you had joined our website you would have seen when they are (GMT and your local time), who they are against, and how many people have signed up from our corp for each battle. Instead of just sitting in corp chat waiting for one. Long and the short of it is that if you want to be included in things that are team play oriented, you have to put a little effort in to make others aware that you are interested in actually playing as a team without waiting for that elusive invite.
Sorry it didn't work out in CrimeWave for you, you are still welcome to squad with us any time. Best of luck to you. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:00:00 -
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Red Star. officially withdraws its open request to you. Sorry Vanda, if you leave the alliance we cant get you back. You are a great player. Shame to see you not stick in Crimewave. |
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fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
I guess some are more concerned with reputation and chest thumping than anything. That being said, many corps are about the collective and are not entirely like that. I talk to guys in Ahrendee, PFBHz, KEQ, all the time about this stuff... and we all work to get their entire playerbase experience.
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:08:00 -
[42] - Quote
fahrenheitM wrote:I guess some are more concerned with reputation and chest thumping than anything. That being said, many corps are about the collective and are not entirely like that. I talk to guys in Ahrendee, PFBHz, KEQ, all the time about this stuff... and we all work to get their entire playerbase experience.
We try to mix it up too! If we see a contract that can be picked up we pick it up if enough members are one. Its fun ringing too when we get a chance lol. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2281
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:20:00 -
[43] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:so... you want to play with other people in a squad but don't want to play with other people. How is this CCPs problem?
Get over yourself, join a corp. If it isn't working join another one. You think you'll get good teamwork by playing with randoms on a pub match?
This is a team-based shooter. Join a team and stop complaining. Dude, if you're not in the top 8 of a corp then your screwed for corp battles and it's the high school lunch table drama. Anyway, I expected this would rub peeps the wrong way, so bring it. Complaining, expression, forums, goes with the territory.
lolno
u tried TWO corps and think all like this? this is why i told u apply and try us out ages ago, but i guess u assumed u wont get a match cuz ur not our top 8.
we had this discussion yesterday via mail, u think too selfishly and think u always deserve a spot in a corp match because u are one of the best players in the corp. This is the same diva mentality i had to deal with when SyN was on BF3 and thank god we got rid of those players because its that very same mentality that BROUGHT our endless BF3 drama.
I bench some of my BEST players alot when im facing a weaker team to give our greener/less experienced guys the needed match experience and NONE of my players QQ about being benched because they know its not about themselves but about the T E A M
If the T E A M gets stronger as a whole then thats good for us. Playing the same top 8 players if they always available does NOTHING to getting the T E A M better.
U say ur anti-social well now i see why u think like this. So once again not all corps are the same. If u srsly want to have some fun while playing with a corp and leave the politics behind hmu ingame and this time actually be srs if u wanna give it a good shot and actually try to be social. We have everything in place to create a social atmosphere as possible while still being competitive. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:28:00 -
[44] - Quote
The Infected One wrote:Vanda, we had you scheduled in for a corp battle against synergy, the only reason you didn't get into the corp battle that we had the day you joined us is because we already had the squads made up. You were with hell storm for a while, we knew you're a good player, it was just bad timing on that one.
You complained that you couldn't find a squad, we broke squads apart to make smaller squads to get you in with a group as well as invited you to our alliance chat channel with 4 other corporations we frequently squad up with.
You are being very honest saying that you are anti-social, but as far as not being included if you aren't part of the top 8, not getting into corp matches, a little more patience than the 3 or 4 days that you had with us is generally required as we all work and don't always have someone on to host/join a corp battle with you. We schedule corp battles all the time, if you had joined our website you would have seen when they are (GMT and your local time), who they are against, and how many people have signed up from our corp for each battle. Instead of just sitting in corp chat waiting for one. Long and the short of it is that if you want to be included in things that are team play oriented, you have to put a little effort in to make others aware that you are interested in actually playing as a team without waiting for that elusive invite.
Sorry it didn't work out in CrimeWave for you, you are still welcome to squad with us any time. Best of luck to you.
CrimeWave was good to me and I kinda jumped the gun a little. I had joined the website. I dunno, I messed up leaving. But I guess I was not patient. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:31:00 -
[45] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:
CrimeWave was good to me and I kinda jumped the gun a little. I had joined the website. I dunno, I messed up leaving. But I guess I was not patient.
I might be speaking out of context but its never too late to go back. No egos here in Eon to the best of my knowledge. You have the backing of a great corp and alliance. |
The Infected One
CrimeWave Syndicate
126
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:34:00 -
[46] - Quote
Always welcome back. You didn't leave on bad terms. We simply saw that you disappeared. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
I find it funny that people saw the anti social part and attacked it. That type of attack is exactly why I view people the way I do. I mentioned the anti-social thing as a way to show that I'm trying to see things in a balanced way. But these people see that as a weakness.
People assume that I'm not familar with shooter groups, gangs, corps, but I've played other shooters and the dynamic is almost always there for assholery.
And lastly, if you say you're not into the drama and aren't much of a jerk yet disagree with this thread in a hostile way, then you're a liar about not being into the drama. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:39:00 -
[48] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:I find it funny that people saw the anti social part and attacked it. That type of attack is exactly why I view people the way I do. I mentioned the anti-social thing as a way to show that I'm trying to see things in a balanced way. But these people see that as a weakness.
People assume that I'm not familar with shooter groups, gangs, corps, but I've played other shooters and the dynamic is almost always there for assholery.
And lastly, if you say you're not into the drama and aren't much of a jerk yet disagree with this thread in a hostile way, then your a liar about not being into the drama.
LOL. Why do you think I got your back on that? And this and many more reasons is you wont find Eon on the forums much.
Change the title of your post to "GM Please Delete" and hopefully I will see you in the Eon chat to play some games. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:43:00 -
[49] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I find it funny that people saw the anti social part and attacked it. That type of attack is exactly why I view people the way I do. I mentioned the anti-social thing as a way to show that I'm trying to see things in a balanced way. But these people see that as a weakness.
People assume that I'm not familar with shooter groups, gangs, corps, but I've played other shooters and the dynamic is almost always there for assholery.
And lastly, if you say you're not into the drama and aren't much of a jerk yet disagree with this thread in a hostile way, then your a liar about not being into the drama.
LOL. Why do you think I got your back on that? And this and many more reasons is you wont find Eon on the forums much. Change the title of your post to "GM Please Delete" and hopefully I will see you in the Eon chat to play some games.
Thank you for the earlier compliment. Nothing was personal with EON, or CrimeWave. I will stop posting in this thread. See you guys around. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2281
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:43:00 -
[50] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:I find it funny that people saw the anti social part and attacked it. That type of attack is exactly why I view people the way I do. I mentioned the anti-social thing as a way to show that I'm trying to see things in a balanced way. But these people see that as a weakness.
People assume that I'm not familar with shooter groups, gangs, corps, but I've played other shooters and the dynamic is almost always there for assholery.
And lastly, if you say you're not into the drama and aren't much of a jerk yet disagree with this thread in a hostile way, then your a liar about not being into the drama.
what was hostile about it? im trying to get the msg across to u that its about the TEAM not u. U spent 3 days in a corp and bailed because u werent selected for a match I have ppl in my corp longer than that who still havent gotten the chance to play much as well
u call me a jerk when u dont actually know me other than me xplaining this to u via mail yesterday if u actually know me u'd know i try to assist and help everyone around me but i have little patience for bs
lastly ur back to assuming again
Quote:People assume that I'm not familar with shooter groups, gangs, corps, but I've played other shooters and the dynamic is almost always there for assholery.
then u dont really know most corps/clans or just have very bad luck with ur choices. Good luck in ur future endeavors but this is a team game. |
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Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:47:00 -
[51] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I find it funny that people saw the anti social part and attacked it. That type of attack is exactly why I view people the way I do. I mentioned the anti-social thing as a way to show that I'm trying to see things in a balanced way. But these people see that as a weakness.
People assume that I'm not familar with shooter groups, gangs, corps, but I've played other shooters and the dynamic is almost always there for assholery.
And lastly, if you say you're not into the drama and aren't much of a jerk yet disagree with this thread in a hostile way, then your a liar about not being into the drama.
what was hostile about it? im trying to get the msg across to u that its about the TEAM not u. U spent 3 days in a corp and bailed because u werent selected for a match I have ppl in my corp longer than that who still havent gotten the chance to play much as well u call me a jerk when u dont actually know me other than me xplaining this to u via mail yesterday if u actually know me u'd know i try to assist and help everyone around me but i have little patience for bs lastly ur back to assuming again Quote:People assume that I'm not familar with shooter groups, gangs, corps, but I've played other shooters and the dynamic is almost always there for assholery. then u dont really know most corps/clans or just have very bad luck with ur choices. Good luck in ur future endeavors but this is a team game.
I said I wouldn't post but I will clarify I did not call you a jerk. Secondly, I'm very big on team play. I want to win and will sacrafice for the team. |
The Infected One
CrimeWave Syndicate
126
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:56:00 -
[52] - Quote
Not attacking it in any way, shape, or form. Just stating that it was noticed, and it was appreciated that you were open about it. A lot of people don't say anything and it just comes across as them being a ****. With that statement out in the open, it brings a greater understanding to the situation. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 20:59:00 -
[53] - Quote
The Infected One wrote:Not attacking it in any way, shape, or form. Just stating that it was noticed, and it was appreciated that you were open about it. A lot of people don't say anything and it just comes across as them being a ****. With that statement out in the open, it brings a greater understanding to the situation.
Just to be clear, are you saying I didn't talk much? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:01:00 -
[54] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:The Infected One wrote:Not attacking it in any way, shape, or form. Just stating that it was noticed, and it was appreciated that you were open about it. A lot of people don't say anything and it just comes across as them being a ****. With that statement out in the open, it brings a greater understanding to the situation. Just to be clear, are you saying I didn't talk much?
Take it of the forums boys . Vanda why dont you and TIO talk about it on the Crimewave site or email |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:06:00 -
[55] - Quote
i mean no disrespect to Eon or CWS but theyre two corps out over what is now over a thousand, the solution isnt to give up but rather should be as has been stated previously to find a corp that feels right for you. there are probably people that you wont get along with but at over 1.5 mil characters im sure that you can find 3 others to play with. |
The Infected One
CrimeWave Syndicate
126
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:06:00 -
[56] - Quote
Not at all, you were one of the more normal ones. You have met N'Rante and Gabe, right? Get those two going with their tinfoil hats on and you might as well switch channels. We just noticed that you played with us for a few days when you were on, and then you simply weren't on anymore, we checked the roster and you were gone.
I did notice when I first played with you that you checked yourself when you started to say that you were "just testing us out" but didn't say anything. I can understand how some people could have taken offense to that (like all corps, we do have a hot head or two) lol.
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Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Some people talk too much. Some people over talk people, don't let them get a word edgewise. Some people would talk more if they were addressed specifically rather then expecting them to be themselves fully with strangers right from the jump. Then again, some people talk too much and don't want social competition. But I guess society can put a positive spin on outgoing annoying types before they do silent types, even though silent types usually have more to offer, as in substance.
And just because people have mics doesn't mean they talk a majority of tactics. They get comfortable and talk about personal things during gameplay. Not my style.
Also, "I'm hacking the supply depot" doesn't help any one.
As a good player, working with a team, you either know what to do or don't, regardless of chat. Chat is just a bonus, like "Look out so-and so, behind you." Real tactics should be developed with the map outside of the match. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:13:00 -
[58] - Quote
The Infected One wrote: we do have a hot head or two lol.
Meh! Our hotheads will take on your hotheads any day. .
When I get home we will schedule a Hothead Corp Battle .
Im out! Im sure you big boys can figure things out. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:17:00 -
[59] - Quote
Well, I hope the 10 mil isk I donated is put to good use. Maybe you'll kill me with a prototype something. |
Red Dot 24601-HA
S.e.V.e.N.
36
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:39:00 -
[60] - Quote
This may seem like a shameless recruitment pitch, but Check my corp out. We are not political at all. We just want to have fun while playing and playing with randoms can be frustrating. I hate redlining the enemy. It isn't any fun and if my team does it I go fly a dropship around in the safety of the backfield. and hope they can break through. If you are interested in corp battles we will get you in them. Hope you find what your looking for. |
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Jack Sharkey42
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:53:00 -
[61] - Quote
BursegSardaukar wrote:Join SMERG. We are awful but still get orbitals. This way it prevents the "unfair" camping aspect you dislike, but we have enough idiots smacking our face against the keyboard that at least 1 orbital is in the cards per match.
Also, we don't have a corporate ladder because I don't give roles to anyone besides my brother, and this system has worked with my corp of 100+ for years. From the EVE side we take a ventrilo vote and whoever is there decides policy, and I make the changes necessary. Everyone has equal say, just not actual roles to steal crap.
HI BURSEG!!! |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:08:00 -
[62] - Quote
Thank you to the unrecognized corps as of yet that are offering. I hope you rise up.
I would need to squad with peeps for a while before I decide. Actually become friends with them before I commit.
If you see me, invite. We'll see. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:23:00 -
[63] - Quote
Funny thing is, I just want full squads. Corps got more of the attention. I'm some times inches away from an orbital. And, no. it's not selfish if I'm top of the score sheet, don't get an orbital, but want one. Obviously I'm doing SOMETHING.
And by the way, if, in you're argument you accuse someone of assuming something, while you assume something yourself, you need to become more self conscious. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2013.02.21 23:19:00 -
[64] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Prepare for a some serious crying here. Trolls lick your lips.
The squad system sucks, sucks worst that the last system. Now, instead of complaining about a squad that's not full, I'm complaining about being squad leader of nobody.
Occasionally a person or two will join the squad and I think, awesome, an orbital is in the cards. Except these blue dots go 0-6 and possibly manage 100 war points each.
I often get around 2000 war points myself, and to be short changed by terrible blue dots is a kick in the pants. Then I try to be thankful that they even knew enough to join a squad. But only after I begged/ instructed them to join a squad.
I bet I know what some of you are thinking. Join a corp. On to part two: I hate corporations. I've tried two of them, but all corps are the same. Full of politics. And to be honest, I'm antisocial in real life, so I don't know how to climb the corp ladder over a microphone. My problem I guess.
My point is I don't want to join one if I don't have to. Hopefully CCP will offer individual merc contracts in the future.
Most corps are full of great players, but lack any decency when it comes to crushing non corp blue dots. They fiend the red line like they are so thirsty for blood and camp cru's like that is fun or fair. They will pull out two tanks and a drop ship in a random pub match with a victory in the bag, which, I guess isn't terrible, but I still hate them for it.
Funny thing is, if they are not in their corp squad, they don't try during games and sometimes even quit. Catching them alone is ten times different. Suddenly, their invincible magic is greatly reduced. I sometimes wonder if its the same person.
Back to orbitals . . . while I'm praying to get an orbital (sometimes I do, at the tail end of the match when the game is about to expire, so I barely have time to look at my map, let alone get somewhere safe to call one) . . . while I'm doing that some corp gets orbitals early and often. I've seen corp squads get three in a match while I'm can't even eek out one.
I'd understand if I got a lot of grief for this thread. The blue dots that don't join squads probably don't read the forums either.
Vent over. This game might just not be for you. I mean that in all seriousness. Some MMOs can be played somewhat on your lonesome, but this one and EVE put far more of a premium on social groupings. I don't think you're ever going to have much success trying to lone-wolf in this game. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:09:00 -
[65] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:The Infected One wrote:Vanda, we had you scheduled in for a corp battle against synergy, the only reason you didn't get into the corp battle that we had the day you joined us is because we already had the squads made up. You were with hell storm for a while, we knew you're a good player, it was just bad timing on that one.
You complained that you couldn't find a squad, we broke squads apart to make smaller squads to get you in with a group as well as invited you to our alliance chat channel with 4 other corporations we frequently squad up with.
You are being very honest saying that you are anti-social, but as far as not being included if you aren't part of the top 8, not getting into corp matches, a little more patience than the 3 or 4 days that you had with us is generally required as we all work and don't always have someone on to host/join a corp battle with you. We schedule corp battles all the time, if you had joined our website you would have seen when they are (GMT and your local time), who they are against, and how many people have signed up from our corp for each battle. Instead of just sitting in corp chat waiting for one. Long and the short of it is that if you want to be included in things that are team play oriented, you have to put a little effort in to make others aware that you are interested in actually playing as a team without waiting for that elusive invite.
Sorry it didn't work out in CrimeWave for you, you are still welcome to squad with us any time. Best of luck to you. CrimeWave was good to me and I kinda jumped the gun a little. I had joined the website. I dunno, I messed up leaving. But I guess I was not patient. you gotta give things a chance. |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:28:00 -
[66] - Quote
The matchmaking system is bad at the moment. Hopefully CCP will find a way to remedy this. As it is, you might find yourself in a team of random players playing 2 squads of corp members. Corps may likely work together, may have much more advanced gear and possibly redline their opponents. This is absolutely no fun for the losing team and I dislike being on either side. CCP needs to find a way to balance teams. Give the losing team some sort of boost, CCP. Since they likely won't get many if any orbitals which could potentially help them while the winning team, that doesn't need orbitals, may end up being able to toss back to back bombardments. An idea is to remove the WP requirement and put orbitals on a timer of cooldown. Any variation like that could work. Give the new and random players a way to enjoy the game rather than them simply getting destroyed by over powered players. |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:01:00 -
[67] - Quote
CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:The Infected One wrote:Vanda, we had you scheduled in for a corp battle against synergy, the only reason you didn't get into the corp battle that we had the day you joined us is because we already had the squads made up. You were with hell storm for a while, we knew you're a good player, it was just bad timing on that one.
You complained that you couldn't find a squad, we broke squads apart to make smaller squads to get you in with a group as well as invited you to our alliance chat channel with 4 other corporations we frequently squad up with.
You are being very honest saying that you are anti-social, but as far as not being included if you aren't part of the top 8, not getting into corp matches, a little more patience than the 3 or 4 days that you had with us is generally required as we all work and don't always have someone on to host/join a corp battle with you. We schedule corp battles all the time, if you had joined our website you would have seen when they are (GMT and your local time), who they are against, and how many people have signed up from our corp for each battle. Instead of just sitting in corp chat waiting for one. Long and the short of it is that if you want to be included in things that are team play oriented, you have to put a little effort in to make others aware that you are interested in actually playing as a team without waiting for that elusive invite.
Sorry it didn't work out in CrimeWave for you, you are still welcome to squad with us any time. Best of luck to you. CrimeWave was good to me and I kinda jumped the gun a little. I had joined the website. I dunno, I messed up leaving. But I guess I was not patient. you gotta give things a chance.
You honestly may be very right about that.
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Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
186
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Posted - 2013.02.22 04:16:00 -
[68] - Quote
If you have to cry, this is how you do it. Well written rant, +1 |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:07:00 -
[69] - Quote
Thanks. I like to think I cry with the best of em.
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Buzzin Fr0g
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:If you're not in the top 8 of a corp then your screwed for corp battles and it's the high school lunch table drama.
At KEQ, on some days we run contracts in rapid succession that are specifically for new players and those who don't get into many inter-corp battles. I think your hasty write-off of all corporations being the same needs a second consideration. |
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Imp Smash
On The Brink
51
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Posted - 2013.02.22 07:27:00 -
[71] - Quote
OP the right corp for you is out there I promise. One full of cool peeps that will make you feel comfortable where politics are not an issue. Try out a few.
Edit note: patience is key. People got to get to know you to be excited squading with you. I ran games off and on with my current corp for a month before I joined. OTB has been VERY good to me because of that. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:05:00 -
[72] - Quote
I dont hate corps or even going solo its most likely the matchmaking or lack of it
So you run solo and are put against 2 4man groups in every battle and may get the odd one where its filled with solo ppl like you but its rare, either way you get a beat down for 20-30min and blame your useless team while doing what you want and trying to get points anyways and if it becomes hopeless sit in the MCC and read a book
Then on the otherside you group up with 4ppl, friends or corpys and what happens? its your 4man group and another 4man group against solo ppl and that becomes a borefest where you end up tank racing around the map and generally being bored
Cant ******* win atm
Then to add to that i really dont see the advantage of joining a corp just yet, CB 8v8, getting paid as a merc? only if the corp has enough and may need you for 8v8 but majority of clans do have 8ppl so going out as a merc for hire doesnt yet work or get paid anyways since most corps wont pay you |
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